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AtLast · 05-13-2010, 03:34 AM

ARGH!!!

Who said it and why she did IS NOT THE FUCKING POINT!

I had high hopes for this discussion and feel frustrated as hell that we can't have a conversation about the underlying meaning of the statement in terms of what it says about women and especially butch women. And i believe we can do this without any negative assumptions about male identified butches or transmen. In fact, they just might have some good things to say as well in looking at narrow definitions of women in general as well as butch identity. Not all of us buy into butch-wars and hate each other.

You know, this isn't about taking sides.... honoring differences can make a powerfully strong bridge to understanding.

05-13-2010, 03:34 AM	#172
AtLast Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Woman Preferred Pronoun?: HER - SHE Relationship Status: Relating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA & AZ I'm a Snowbird Posts: 5,408 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,826 Thanked 10,827 Times in 3,199 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	ARGH!!! Who said it and why she did IS NOT THE FUCKING POINT! I had high hopes for this discussion and feel frustrated as hell that we can't have a conversation about the underlying meaning of the statement in terms of what it says about women and especially butch women. And i believe we can do this without any negative assumptions about male identified butches or transmen. In fact, they just might have some good things to say as well in looking at narrow definitions of women in general as well as butch identity. Not all of us buy into butch-wars and hate each other. You know, this isn't about taking sides.... honoring differences can make a powerfully strong bridge to understanding. Last edited by AtLast; 05-13-2010 at 03:42 AM. Reason: stuff