[Gemme]

Originally Posted by Gráinne

And here I go stepping in cautiously, with a question. I know many women are protesting Trump; I get it. But what about Bill Clinton, who did unspeakable things in the Oval Office? The alternative to Trump and his Jupiter-size ego was the enabling wife of that philanderer. I can't see why any feminist would want him anywhere close to the White House again (and he would have been in there somehow).

The main difference is that Bill Clinton's philandering was consensual and that he did not condone violence against women and he certainly did not brag about it.

That doesn't make it right, but it is different.

Originally Posted by BullDog

I don't blame Melania Trump for Donald Trump's treatment of women and I don't blame Hillary Clinton for Bill Clinton's either. And I think referring to Hillary Clinton as an enabling wife is really sexist. She was candidate for President of the United States and one of the most qualified to ever run for that office. She's not just somebody's wife whose husband was going to be around if she was elected president of our country.

I agree with your description of Hillary Clinton, and that makes me smile because I also believe that she was the most qualified person for the job, but I do feel that she knew about his dalliances. Of course, they are HIS dalliances and the fact that he did what he did should not reflect on her but her behavior afterwards does. I think a lot of folks remembered that. Unfortunately, very strong women have always had a steeper hill to climb than even a weak man.