[Arwen]

Originally Posted by Toughy

My maternal sides goes back at last to the late 1700's early 1800's (and probably longer considering where they were) to what is now Illinois and Arkansas. My grandmother said her grandmother was 'black dutch' (whatever that means) and Cherokee (half and half).

My maternal grandfather was Scot and Irish.

Parts of my family have been in New Mexico for around 120 years.......both sides.

I have no relationship to being an immigrant.....no connection to Europe at all. My family has been on this land hundreds (and some thousands) of years.

Toughy, my great grandmother was referred to as Dutch or so we thought.

Turns out it was Deutsch or German. Kid you not. You might want to check that country instead of Holland.

And, um Toughy? If your maternal grandfather was Scot/Irish, you kind of do have a connection to Europe...through the British Isles as it were.