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Old 06-27-2010, 09:38 AM   #237
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Originally Posted by Rufusboi View Post
I'm not trying to argue global warming or evolution. I was arguing the point you made about the masses being uninformed. I don't agree with that opinion.

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Then what do you call it when someone has the facts available to them, doesn't avail themselves of those facts and then holds opinions that are erroneous? If it's not uninformed and it's not ignorant, what on Earth is it? What IS uninformed if not acquiring relevant facts related to an opinion BEFORE forming an opinion? What is ignorant if not espousing an opinion on a matter to which one either has no facts or has what they believe to be facts but is really incorrect information?

I wasn't trying to argue either global warming or evolution. I was arguing that the evidence for both of those is solid enough that to hold an opinion contrary to them is ignorant and/or uninformed. It would be equally ignorant and/or uninformed to say that the Sun orbits the Earth or that Barack Obama is not currently President of the United States and for the same kinds of reasons--the overwhelming evidence points to those conclusions. People may not believe that to be the case, but they are wrong.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no one is entitled to their own facts." -- Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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