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Originally Posted by Organicbutch
What I don't understand is all the people that listen to this crap and actually believe it. Are people really that blind? I mean really, like seriously?
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"A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on." (Terry Pratchett--Going Postal)
Yes, people are that blind and that ignorant. Beck, Palin, et. al. are in the process of re-writing history. FDR goes from having saved capitalism from itself to being more Lenin than Lenin himself and conservatives--who almost universally opposed the civil rights movement--are now to be the true legatees MLK. They can get away with it because the media won't call a lie a lie no matter how blatant it is, liberals won't call liars out unless talking to one another because we're too concerned with 'being nice' and 'honoring everyone's process' and elected Democrats won't call it out because the polls--which run their lives--tell them not to. What's worse, on the other side of the aisle we have politicians who are, perhaps, ignorant of history playing with matches while standing in a pool of gasoline. What Gingrich, Palin, Brewer et. al. believe is that they can stoke up anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim and anti-brown fever in order to win the 2010 and 2012 elections and that they can do so AND keep the pot from boiling over. In all of history that has *never* worked the way the instigators thought it would. I'm not saying that it won't translate to electoral victory--it very well may. I am saying that once the hateful cat is out of the bag, they will find it difficult to put it back IN the bag. History will not be kind to them but in the interim real people have to deal with the environment that will cause Gingrich and others to be ill thought of down the line.
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Originally Posted by AtLastHome
I would dismiss this ass as the wing-nut he is if it were not obvious to me that he and people like him do wield power in the US and are hell bent on oppressing human and civil rights for those they disagree with or threaten their over the top distorted Christian Soldier codes.
I used to laugh at the likes of Beck and Limbaugh…. No more….. they are a serious threat to freedom of ideas and democracy.
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I think that a lot of liberal and progressive people ignored the American Right because they thought they were irrelevant. It shows that its good to leave the coasts from time-to-time and get out into the vast middle of the country where Limbaugh's brand of race-baiting conservatism plays very well.
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Originally Posted by Galahad
I wish someone with some real art skill would expose these people as the neo nazi skinheads they really are. Visuals speak more to most people than all the talk and writing ever will.
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The problem is, any visuals that would *actually* effect people will be from horrific events. Back in the 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s it was not that most white Americans had never seen a picture of a Klansman in the newspaper. It wasn't that they did not see racist imagery of blacks. It was that they rarely saw the *aftermath* of the Klan action. They didn't see the beatings or the firebombing or the shooting at houses. While I understand what you're saying and do not *necessarily* disagree with it, my concern is that showing a bunch of angry right-wingers only plays to their strengths. What the average American will see is people celebrating the founding fathers, carrying American flags and/or crosses and talking about taxes. They will yawn and think that liberals are making a big deal of nothing. The kinds of images that *would* have an impact will be of the broken body of some Muslim kid who was in the wrong place, around the wrong people, at the wrong time.
Cheers
Aj