AtLast, I can't quote your post on my phone ... its too long
... but want to thank you for putting things in perspective.
Don't get me started on the absolution of science, and the oops! never mind, or atrocities commuted in the name of. Cornell West does a masterful job with respect to race, for one. Michel Foucault and Anon are others. There is a history of abuse in most, if not all, disciplines. How do we elicit thought and behavior change so that we all flourish is, IMHO, the key.
Each of us posting these past pages have the "good" in mind. We need be more than tolerant, because tolerance implies superiority. We need to agree that there are some points that we do not agree, some points that, because our learning is narrowly focused, we don't understand. We need to realize that our experience of a specific area may be true for that instance, but not expect everything within a broader umbrella may be true as well. The contradictions are inherent in nature.
Dang phone won't allow multiple quotes, and I apologize for this as well as any typos that make you go "huh" because there is a self correcting thingy.
SF, thanks for posting. You have, in the way only you can accomplish, presented the various sides of these discussions through your own lived experiences. I'd like to say more, but won't press my luck on the phone in one long post. It's never let me go so long before.
AJ, yore post is brilliant. However, Process Theology, started by a physicist, Alfred Lord Whitehead, says simply that G-d does not intervene because G-d cannot. G-d, Process Theologians say, acts by luring us to do good. We have free will, however, and can chose not to listen ...
Ok, I'm gone ...