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Old 11-04-2010, 05:24 PM   #829
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Originally Posted by MsDemeanor View Post
Jess, my comments were not directed at you. The original poster of the link to the article is a notorious drive-by-drop-a-pile-of-lies-crap-article-and-then-run-away conservative. I get tired of that bullshit behavior; the person has no interest in facts or in debating, just in stirring up shit. If a person wants to debate or discuss, then they should show up with some facts and they should bother to stick around.
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Like you, I am done with the 'drive by' crap. If one of my neighbors ran into my house and took a dump on the hardwood, I wouldn’t take too kindly to it. I see no reason why I should let slide someone doing the Internet message board equivalent. You have characterized it perfectly. What this person does is post some crap that has about as much fact to it as a Harry Potter movie and then scampers off until the next time she chooses to do that act. While I understand all the arguments for "don't give them energy" I am also reminded of a line that Terry Pratchett, the British satirist, likes to have his characters quote: "a lie will get halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on". Every time that we allow an untruth to sit in these forums unchallenged, we do two things: We *encourage* the behavior of posting untruths and put the wind at the back of the lie. We have had a real-world view of how that plays out watching how the Democrats dealt with (or failed to deal with) the lies told about Mr. Obama and the HCR bill.

I get it that my fact-based, reality-based commitment doesn't make me the most popular poster here. I don't care. Thirty years of epistemic relativism to the contrary, there really are facts, there really is reality, and no one is entitled to their own set of facts. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but no one is entitled to their own facts.

I think it's long past the time that we stopped pretending that everyone gets their own facts.

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