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WILDCAT · 12-19-2009, 08:15 AM

Yeah, there is a fine line in my mind, thinking back now between HARD ROCK and "HEAVY METAL/HARD ROCK".

I felt "at the time" that Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were heavy rock, heavy early metal - due to the heavy bass and lead guitar sounds. Like Iron Man and Smoke on the Water.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7LwuVF8Oo"]YouTube- Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water w/ lyrics[/ame]

Heavy rock, was Led Zepplin and The Who... also because they did various styles of music as well. (And, like Ted Nudgent "hard" rock, Metallica = HEAVY METAL rock!!) Personal tastes for some, but they were categorized by music critics... having to come up with new descriptions, like "grunge rock".

But, really thinking back now, the first heavy rock for me was Grand Funk Railroad. I didn't consider it then, but heard it "first", before any of the others. I guess I just thought "wow, what the HELL is this music"?! I was really excited. I didn't know what it was called.

Three band members only and I never saw anyone again jam like that until ZZTOP came along later as a three piece gig. (Whole different style there, I know.) Again, everything happened boom, bang - so quick from year to year throughout the 70's.

Here is Grand Funk Railroad in '69!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x6chChxzV0"]YouTube- Grand Funk Railroad - Inside Looking Out 1969[/ame]

My brother had this album and I fed off of the drummer here first as rocking for myself. I loved their bass sound, very distinct. (I believe later someone here became just Grand Funk - and some bands went into a more commericial for the times sound, ex: Locomotion, We're an American Band by Grand Funk. NOT the same as their early stuff, which disbanded really - from the original sound anyway. They were advanced I believe to start off with.)

I'll have to read up on them more. It's been awhile. To see who went where. Everyone generally went somewhere. It's fascinating to me who is from earlier bands that we didn't know of. Like Graham Nash (of Crosby, Stills, and Nash - and later YOUNG), was really from the early Hollies group, David Crosby was for the Yardbirds: song Turn, Turn, Turn, Stephen Stills from early Buffalo Springfield.

Eric Clapton from Derrick and the Dominoes and Cream, (think I have these right) etc...
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I agree the first all girl band is incredibly significant in the history of music. Just wasn't the rock question, first major label. (But, you knew that one too!) I also agree that GirlSchool rocked more heavily and that Kelly Johnson was ahead of her time women guitarist... more like a VanHalen-isque. I thought that clip was from the mid to late 70's though, for the haircut and Heart t-shirt, (where Heart hit their bomb in mid-70's). So, I would agree with you, probably the first hardest rock all female group.

Fanny just had it's own historical significance. And most don't know of them and somebody had to do it. They were treated like shit at first. And their hits were of the lighter rock, less HEAVY type of songs. That says something, doesn't it?

More to follow!

WILDCAT

*Sorry for typo's and all, up all night again!!

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WILDCAT Member How Do You Identify?: Very PROUD BUTCH LESBIAN! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: PA Posts: 679 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 796 Thanked 551 Times in 238 Posts Rep Power: 761791	Yeah, there is a fine line in my mind, thinking back now between HARD ROCK and "HEAVY METAL/HARD ROCK". I felt "at the time" that Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were heavy rock, heavy early metal - due to the heavy bass and lead guitar sounds. Like Iron Man and Smoke on the Water. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7LwuVF8Oo"]YouTube- Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water w/ lyrics[/ame] Heavy rock, was Led Zepplin and The Who... also because they did various styles of music as well. (And, like Ted Nudgent "hard" rock, Metallica = HEAVY METAL rock!!) Personal tastes for some, but they were categorized by music critics... having to come up with new descriptions, like "grunge rock". But, really thinking back now, the first heavy rock for me was Grand Funk Railroad. I didn't consider it then, but heard it "first", before any of the others. I guess I just thought "wow, what the HELL is this music"?! I was really excited. I didn't know what it was called. Three band members only and I never saw anyone again jam like that until ZZTOP came along later as a three piece gig. (Whole different style there, I know.) Again, everything happened boom, bang - so quick from year to year throughout the 70's. Here is Grand Funk Railroad in '69! [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x6chChxzV0"]YouTube- Grand Funk Railroad - Inside Looking Out 1969[/ame] My brother had this album and I fed off of the drummer here first as *rocking* for myself. I loved their bass sound, very distinct. (I believe later someone here became just Grand Funk - and some bands went into a more commericial for the times sound, ex: Locomotion, We're an American Band by Grand Funk. NOT the same as their early stuff, which disbanded really - from the original sound anyway. They were advanced I believe to start off with.) I'll have to read up on them more. It's been awhile. To see who went where. Everyone generally went somewhere. It's fascinating to me who is from earlier bands that we didn't know of. Like Graham Nash (of Crosby, Stills, and Nash - and later YOUNG), was really from the early Hollies group, David Crosby was for the Yardbirds: song Turn, Turn, Turn, Stephen Stills from early Buffalo Springfield. Eric Clapton from Derrick and the Dominoes and Cream, (think I have these right) etc... __ I agree the first all girl band is incredibly significant in the history of music. Just wasn't the rock question, first major label. (But, you knew that one too!) I also agree that GirlSchool rocked more heavily and that Kelly Johnson was ahead of her time women guitarist... more like a VanHalen-isque. I thought that clip was from the mid to late 70's though, for the haircut and Heart t-shirt, (where Heart hit their bomb in mid-70's). So, I would agree with you, probably the first hardest rock all female group. Fanny just had it's own historical significance. And most don't know of them and somebody had to do it. They were treated like shit at first. And their hits were of the lighter rock, less HEAVY type of songs. That says something, doesn't it? More to follow! WILDCAT *Sorry for typo's and all, up all night again!!