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dreadgeek · 11-30-2010, 07:57 PM

One other point (I'll try to be brief) and then I'm off to take a bath and soak with a book before diving into homework.

I think that some of what is going on here is that some of the people of color are letting slip our very justifiable frustration, fear and anger. it's bloody 2010. The kind of law that is SB 1070, the kind of regulations that are represented by the no teaching ethnic studies in Arizona, are supposed to be relics of the past. This argument is supposed to have been settled. Not in the sense that there was no racism and no institutional racism. But there is the force of a culture that was born with racism in its ideological DNA and there is racism as the *LAW*. I will probably always worry--with good reason--about driving while black. But it isn't *legal* for a cop to pull me over because I'm black. If there's nothing wrong with my car, if I can prove that I was pulled over unjustly, I can make my complaint and perhaps, depending, I might get somewhere with it. But when it is the law, there is no complaint coming.

Corkey, Snow any other POC here I'm not trying to speak for you but I think that is some of the frustration that comes out. I know that for me, there were other issues I thought we should be working on now and here it is looks like we are seeing the beginnings of Jim Crow Part II. Like I said, I was under no illusion that this was paradise but at least this kind of crap was not passed into law. I thought we were done with legalized, state-mandated, racism.

Maybe I'm wrong if I am, Corkey, Snowy et. al. let me know but when I heard the statements "this is what they deserve in Arizona" I'm hearing frustration and a sense of "no, this doesn't get to happen with no negative consequences. A price has to be paid for racism this blatant."

Cheers
Aj

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