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Old 01-13-2011, 05:37 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by betenoire View Post
Well, you know. As the right moves further to the right, the new definition of "progressive" becomes the old definition of "centrist".

I actually don't know anything about her. I've heard she was pretty gun-rightsy. I'm not sure how she felt about Brewer's antics. I do know she was in favour of HCR.

She probably was pretty centrist. But you know, that's just a few steps away from filthy commie to some people.
You know it's really sad but so true. I'm pretty liberal. If there were a way to do it *democratically* I would be in favor of socialism but I don't see any way to have democracy and real nationalization of the economy. So I'm a social democrat. But things have tilted so far to the right that my positions end up being rather centrist.

I've heard (and read) European Leftists say that there is no American Left because positions that seem Left in America would be of the Right in Europe. I'm not sure if I agree with that but it is a sign of how far Right this country has turned.

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