[kannon]

Originally Posted by honeybarbara

I'm not exactly sure. I'm not really a butch (lol) so I can't exactly compare the two experiences. My partners... most of them have asked for it, including the men, so it's been received well. Common? yeah, I'd say it was common. Often? depends on the person. It's pretty average and garden variety bog standard in terms of desire. It's never suprised me or taken me unawares. There's a ton of nerves in there (front and back) and it feels good to a hell of a lot of people. It's not necessarily a "feminising act" - I've screwed enough femmes, butches (of various qualitative ID), men and TG with mine to note the variety of differences in how masculine it can feel (not me, but them). Screwing a guy up the ass does not make him a girl. Niether does sliding a cock in his mouth. So, for me, screwing any aparature does not feminise automatically. It depends on who own the fissure. lol.

And it can be womanly, without being girly/feminine too.

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I don't exactly know if I fuck the same as butches or ftm's since that is something that generally neither wants to talk about with me because of the stigma behind the Femme Cock. It's not like I can come up in the threads and have a conversation with my butch/ftm brothers and sisters about my relationship with a cock because frankly it's either dismissed as not valid or I get the dismissial from femme's because for them it's ickey not hot or smutty enough. I can say I don't have a problem fucking, I don't have a problem with strength, endurance, length, width. I've enjoyed it as has the person I have been with. It's part of me, my cock, be it the extension I purchased or the tiny bud that springs to attention when I am sexually aroused. My cock doesn't have a mind of it's own and I surely do not let it make decisions for me. It's a phantom appendage that is 100% alive when fucking, being aroused, or when I am jerking off.

I do think it comes with a stigma of judgements that either this community or the outsides community see as how do I say this:

EWWWWWWWWWy.

It's not commonly thought of as hot, as a matter of fact once I do try to open dialogue with peoples about it I can get reactions that go from:

Eyes wide and mouth open agape

The wrinkled up nose like you are smelling shit look

The words:

THAT AIN'T RIGHT

There's no way I am letting anyone take away my masculinity

That's gross

Ewww why would a butch/ftm EVER want that done that's femme thing

I could never be with a butch/ftm if they wanted their privates touched that would seem girly to me

I could go on and on about the things a Femme has to hear about her Femme cock and on top of that what we have to hear about the people we fuck or who like to be fucked by Femme Cock, examples are:

Ewww a butch in the streets femme in the sheets

Wow you managed to flip them

THAT AIN'T RIGHT, NO REAL BUTCH/FTM would want that done

FUCK NO there's only one cock in THIS relationship

Wow that is so girly that he/hy/she likes that

That's QUEER!

Femme Cock, that's just silly and awkward and LMAO!

Femme Cock is not accepted here and out there like butch.ftm.man.guy.male.masculine.manly.boy. cock is it's not seen as right or normal. It's deemed as emasculating, flipping, girly turning, gross, not right, silly, awkward, less than, certainly not virile and strong like the above ID's are seen.

I honestly feel that sexism and misogyny gets brought into our LGBTQ sex.

Femme on Femme is HOT

Butch on Butch - not so hot and what a waste

Femme Cock pretty much the same, I can't tell you how many times I watch someone treat the person I am with as less than because of my cock and that's funny to me because femme's don't get treated as less than because of the butch/ftm cock that is penetrating them.

Penetration is meant for women only, femmes, fags, queer, sissies, girly men, girly boys. Sound familiar?

It should it's down right fucking heteronormative and that drips into our communities because for some unknown reason Femme Cock makes people uncomfy.

We may not talk a lot of smut, and that's ok with me because some smut can't be handled.

Originally Posted by Gemme

Cock is hot. End of story. Whether it's stemming from a femme, butch, FTM, Transguy, MTF, or any other flavor of identity and presentation in our community.

Now, I do admit that it's a little harder for me to take a pink, sparkly cock seriously. Thankfully, none of my partners have sported one.

That's not to say that I wouldn't or couldn't watch someone else get fucked by one. By all means, the voyeur in me would be more than happy to watch someone get fucked by any appendage of any color, shape, style, etc. I just cannot break through the mindset that that would be something I could pleasure myself with and not something my partners would yield.

That's my shit and I do own that.

BUT

I am certainly not going to tell someone how to run their fuck. If a pink, sparkly cock rocks their world, more power to them. If they like a blue dolphin up the ass, good for them. It's not my place to dictate someone else's pleasure. I'd go off on them for doing it to me and so, I offer the respect I seek from others.

As far as being fucked by someone's cock minimizing masculinity and somehow increasing or creating femininity in someone, I call bullshit.

If I can get praised for being a good girl for taking it all, I'm sure there are boys out there who can, do and/or have received the same praise. That doesn't make them any less boy or more girl. It makes them a very good boy who can take a lot of cock.

Same for butches, FTMs, Transguys, and so on. What makes someone masculine or feminine is inside them. Well, granted, a cock would probably be inside them, but that's not what I mean. It's intrinsic to them. They know their flow and I think it's sad that such a small outside force could shake that within them.

I don't connect with femme cock the way others do. I suppose my clit is my cock in certain situations, but it's not something that clicks in my head. No 'aha' moment there.

Have I fucked someone with a cock? Yes. Was it magical or fantastic? Eh, not really. Did they get off? Yes. Did I? No. It was awkward for me, although I did get the hang of it pretty quickly. Would it be nice to watch someone suck me off? Sure. Every once in a blue moon, that appeals to me. Do I ever have the urge to really fuck someone? Yes, but it has absolutely nothing to do with my connection to femme cock and everything to do with my desire for vengeance and control and muddling through my childhood issues.

I can't tell you the number of times I've had what equates to a prison yard trist in my head when I learn of particular cases of children being exploited and hurt. But like I said, that has absolutely nothing to do with a connection to my femme cock. It's strictly about me wanting to hurt those fuckers as much as or more than they hurt some kids. Tit for tat, if you will.

Thanks for your great input.

So, are other body parts (tongue, fingers, etc) considered femme cock if it's used for penetration? Do you call it your cock or do you prefer other names?

Side note: I used to live with one of my good friends who is butch, along with our girlfriends. My X was very vocal. If we engaged in any type of extracurricular activity our roommates were fully aware of it. Our sexual activities created a domino effect. Right after we finished, they would start up. Their love making sounds were always a little louder and lasted a little longer. Sometimes they would knock on our door to show us one of their sexual devices. It was a little weird. Years later, I was talking about it with my butch friend's X girlfriend. I made some comment like, "dang girl, you've got some pipes on you." She said you don't really know what was going on. I said, so enlighten me. She said that was Lori (butch friend) making all the sounds. She said it was always her servicing, fucking Lori. I asked why she would lie or give the impression that it was the other way around. She said Lori told her that she was not going to have Kannon (me) out do her. That's when I realized that this may be much common than I know. A lot of butches, FTM's, Trans, etc...don't want to cop to it because they fear others will think less of them. Personally, I don't think any differently of Lori or anyone else that gets serviced. I use serviced for lack of a better word.