[foxyshaman]

Originally Posted by Tawse

my thoughts (I am not speaking for Snow ) Is that even if you use the O-Ring - that suction cup is going to push (rather hard) against something... the wearer. A lot harder and forceful than one without the suction cup. It's been my experience that this results in the not good kinda pain.

I have had that experience as well. I can push the pain to the side whilst busy, but I don't always like being tender the next day. OTOH there are times I like the next day pain, it brings a soft smile to my face.

I admit to not ever trying an o-ring. I am on a learning curve today!!