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Originally Posted by stargazingboi
First...regarding the gender issue mentioned..do heterosexuals face the same issues and get booted off flight for PDA? Yes..yes they do...a man in California was arrested and convicted after a 3 day trail for PDA with his girlfriend (link to story below..I found several stories like this one)
[URL="http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-57274.html"]
I have no doubt that one group of people will get more attention in the media than another...lets face it, it's about what will grab peoples attention and sell.
I'm of the mind set that there is a time and a place for everything. I sorta live by the...if I wouldn't do it in front of my parents or kids (whether my partner's kids/my foster kids when I have one placed with me etc)..then I don't do it in public places where other peoples parents or kids are.
Couples should be able to show affection to one another, it's actually quite healthy for a relationship. It also teaches our children what a healthy relationship looks like....of course once again...there is a time and a place for certain things.
For me it's about mutual respect.
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The first thing that struck me about this case, that
did not occur in the case of Hailey and Grey, is that the airline's reports actually were able to tell us
what the couple was doing that constituted "inappropriate." In the case of Hailey, all they say is "it was inappropriate, it caused customer's to complain." They did not go into detail, and Hailey is the only one who tells us anything; that it was a "modest kiss" and they were not making out or causing a "spectacle" of themselves.
In the case of the heterosexual couple, the airline then needs to justify itself, and did when it reported (and it was confirmed) that
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Carl Persing was convicted Thursday of interfering with flight attendants and crew members after he and his girlfriend, Dawn Sewell, were seen "embracing, kissing and acting in a manner that made other passengers uncomfortable," according to a criminal complaint.
According to an FBI indictment, Persing's face was pressed to Sewell's vaginal area during the September Southwest Airlines flight from Los Angeles to Raleigh, N.C. When a flight attendant gave them a second warning, Persing reacted angrily and the couple, both in their early 40s, were arrested when the plane reached its destination.
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This report on the heterosexual couple is far more detailed, far more methodical. It tells us what happened step by step, that the couple were touching each other and kissing (we can probably assume making out), that man had his face pressed to the woman's vaginal area; that the flight attendant came back twice to tell them to stop, and that it was only when the man became enraged that further action was taken.
We have nothing of the sort in Hailey's case. Instead, we have very few details or comments by the airline (and the original article was heavily biased in order to make Hailey sound irrational/hysterical if you look at the quotes they used there vs. the ones in the later article, and the airline look "reasonable" and "family-oriented"), we don't know what was said, we don't know what went on, the airline won't tell us what was done that was inappropriate. The lack of details hints, again, to the potential homophobia that occurred. How far does a heterosexual have to go for this to happen? The case you've given us is rather extreme. How far does a homosexual couple have to go for this to happen? I'd gather a "modest kiss" just might do it.
If something like in the case of the heterosexual couple went on, something tells me they'd be all too willing to tell us.