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					Originally Posted by  Apocalipstic
					 
				 
				Are there really?  Sources outside of the Bible, I mean. 
 
I am not saying Jesus did not exist, or that I don't think he is a culturally important, or that I don't agree with you overall.  Just the actual proof seems flimsy at best.  Zero actual eye wittness accounts, zero artifacts...... 
			
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 Actually, the sources I tend to trust most are non-christian Roman historians.  Pliny the Younger, Tacitus, and Suetonius all would have been contemporaries of Jesus, and all mentioned him in their writings, mostly to talk about what a nuisance the Jews were becoming.
None mention anything about his supernatural affiliations.