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EnderD_503 · 08-03-2012, 01:51 PM

While I agree that "religious freedom" doesn't include promoting hatred against others, I still don't see the point of discussing with them about whether or not they're being "good christians." The Bible is so full of contradictions its extremely easy to make an argument one way or another...as it should be, considering it was a text written by numerous men over 1500 years ago, that's taken influence from numerous other religions. There are plenty of biblical passages that promote hatred...but, to me, that's not the issue. I'm not going to condemn all christians because of it, but at the same time, I think its just pointless to argue with them.

Instead, its better to talk about human rights in the modern age and freedom from discrimination under the law, regardless of sexual orientation, race/ethnicity/skin colour, nationality, sex, religion, gender identity, ability etc. That removes religion from the arena entirely and they don't have a leg to stand on. Eventually, the more secular American society becomes, they become more obsolete...and especially if people simply refuse to argue with them over issues of religion that don't affect people who don't follow that religion.

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EnderD_503 Member How Do You Identify?: Queer, trans guy, butch Preferred Pronoun?: Male pronouns Relationship Status: Relationship Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,329 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,090 Thanked 3,878 Times in 1,022 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	While I agree that "religious freedom" doesn't include promoting hatred against others, I still don't see the point of discussing with them about whether or not they're being "good christians." The Bible is so full of contradictions its extremely easy to make an argument one way or another...as it should be, considering it was a text written by numerous men over 1500 years ago, that's taken influence from numerous other religions. There are plenty of biblical passages that promote hatred...but, to me, that's not the issue. I'm not going to condemn all christians because of it, but at the same time, I think its just pointless to argue with them. Instead, its better to talk about human rights in the modern age and freedom from discrimination under the law, regardless of sexual orientation, race/ethnicity/skin colour, nationality, sex, religion, gender identity, ability etc. That removes religion from the arena entirely and they don't have a leg to stand on. Eventually, the more secular American society becomes, they become more obsolete...and especially if people simply refuse to argue with them over issues of religion that don't affect people who don't follow that religion.