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					Originally Posted by  aishah
					 
				 
				most female id'ed butches i know want to be perceived as women. most male id'ed and trans butches i know want to be perceived as men. 
 
clothing doesn't "make" one's gender id. i agree with bulldog...jeans and t-shirts are not just for men. 
 
 
 
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 Put WAY better than I could've/did!