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09-16-2012, 12:04 PM

Thanks, but sadly my lungs will never improve. That's the point. The smoke and nicotine damaged them, on my behalf because I did it willingly, beyond repair. That's the nature of degenerative lung disease I'm afraid. I was one of those folks who thought it would never happen to me, no-one expects to get lung disease do they? I ask folks I know in person if they're prepared to take the risk of not being able to trot across the road or walk into town whenever they need or want to. Whether they're prepared to take the risk of having to live with a nebulizer and possibly a portable oxygen tank whilst they're still relatively 'young'. That's the reality of such illnesses. No lie, no joke.

I don't think I've ever said that NRTs (nicotine replacement therapies) and other symptom relief methods are not useful tools, I think they're invaluable... when used with an end in sight.

There are recommended times to take/use these things because we addicts tend not to want to reduce our intake if left to our own devices. That's what I'm like anyway.

On this last time of trying to quit I finally did as was recommended (did as I was repeatedly told in other words) and took the Champix exactly as recommended for 12 weeks (the first two smoking as is recommended). It really helped to make myself accountable to others and started my own quitting thread on a UK BF site. I posted every day without fail, the good and the bad of quitting, also took on board some handy hints and tips from folks who'd already quit successfully.

I know what made this final quit work and that was I wanted it; wanted it soooo damn bad that I resolved to deal with all the difficulties in social situations, the sitting at the computer not chain smoking, being with friends and not wanting to stop them indulging in their addictions, the extreme levels of anxiety and murderous irritability with patience and will-power. No amount of tablets, NRTs or positive words could replace it...for me anyway and something which continues on a daily basis as most folks I know smoke. Especially at those damn meetings for addicts who've given up the other lovely drugs

Anyhoo, this isn't about me but about you and your quit. I understand why you might feel a little defensive about your method of quitting in the light of my thinking-out-loud rambling about the ecig 'phenomenon'. It was probably the wrong time for my rambles and I shall be more mindful of that and probably take it away from this thread. Please know that I wasn't and am not judging you.

I really do wish you all the luck in the world, it's a fabbalus journey to start and you're right, baby steps are necessary and believe it not I'm in there rooting for ya, just like I am for anyone giving up, whichever method they use. I hope you turn those baby steps to strides.

Remember folks, if you don't take the first one...you know the rest!

09-16-2012, 12:04 PM	#3
Daktari Guest Tournaments Won: 1 Posts: n/a My Photo Gallery	Thanks, but sadly my lungs will never improve. That's the point. The smoke and nicotine damaged them, on my behalf because I did it willingly, beyond repair. That's the nature of degenerative lung disease I'm afraid. I was one of those folks who thought it would never happen to me, no-one expects to get lung disease do they? I ask folks I know in person if they're prepared to take the risk of not being able to trot across the road or walk into town whenever they need or want to. Whether they're prepared to take the risk of having to live with a nebulizer and possibly a portable oxygen tank whilst they're still relatively 'young'. That's the reality of such illnesses. No lie, no joke. I don't think I've ever said that NRTs (nicotine replacement therapies) and other symptom relief methods are not useful tools, I think they're invaluable... when used with an end in sight. There are recommended times to take/use these things because we addicts tend not to want to reduce our intake if left to our own devices. That's what I'm like anyway. On this last time of trying to quit I finally did as was recommended (did as I was repeatedly told in other words) and took the Champix exactly as recommended for 12 weeks (the first two smoking as is recommended). It really helped to make myself accountable to others and started my own quitting thread on a UK BF site. I posted every day without fail, the good and the bad of quitting, also took on board some handy hints and tips from folks who'd already quit successfully. I know what made this final quit work and that was I wanted it; wanted it soooo damn bad that I resolved to deal with all the difficulties in social situations, the sitting at the computer not chain smoking, being with friends and not wanting to stop them indulging in their addictions, the extreme levels of anxiety and murderous irritability with patience and will-power. No amount of tablets, NRTs or positive words could replace it...for me anyway and something which continues on a daily basis as most folks I know smoke. Especially at those damn meetings for addicts who've given up the other lovely drugs Anyhoo, this isn't about me but about you and your quit. I understand why you might feel a little defensive about your method of quitting in the light of my thinking-out-loud rambling about the ecig 'phenomenon'. It was probably the wrong time for my rambles and I shall be more mindful of that and probably take it away from this thread. Please know that I wasn't and am not judging you. I really do wish you all the luck in the world, it's a fabbalus journey to start and you're right, baby steps are necessary and believe it not I'm in there rooting for ya, just like I am for anyone giving up, whichever method they use. I hope you turn those baby steps to strides. Remember folks, if you don't take the first one...you know the rest! Last edited by Daktari; 09-16-2012 at 12:06 PM. Reason: formatting