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Originally Posted by Soon
Seriously?
I think most of us get enough of this common attitude (both the entitlement and the poor me bits) from men in the real world.

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Originally Posted by Mike
waits for the answer
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Please note that I am not trying to call you two out or say that I feel as though I'm being attacked. I am using these two posts as example of my thinking.
So cont......
After Snow, reasonably and justly asks for an explanation, we then get two more posts that
could be read as snarky.
Why do I feel that they
could be read as snarky??? Cause I remember back to when I was new to posting on these threads, YEARS ago. I was not as well versed on the language, the ideas, the issues surrounding certain parts of these debates as I am now. I didn't know how to express myself in ways that helped other people really hear what I was saying. (shit, still don't know how most of the time.) Because I didn't know HOW to say things in YOUR language, not the language I had known my all my life.
So, my point is, some people who come here really try to make a point and they just are inartful in the way they do it. Some are trying to learn and to those people it could be really scary. They want to interact with other people like them but there is a learning curve that we all have to go through and in that time, it's intimidating. I know I found the dash-site in 2002, didn't post one damn thing for two years cause I read and read and read and realized I had a lot of learning to do before I could express my feelings in an appropriate way. I just hadn't gained the correct language before I found that site. Some people aren't that way. They find us here and really jump in with both feet. But they are trying.
Some, are assholes. Jump at will in my opinion.
Why am I saying all this and quoting the above posts?? Because, *I* wish that when someone asks a person in a thread to please explain what they meant. And asks in a totally appropriate and reasonable way as Snow did.....Can we maybe wait and let the person respond before coming in with posts like the above?
The post that was made was called out by Snow, give the poster time to respond. PLEASE!!! Then if the poster proves that they are just not getting it, then ask some more.
Gahhh!! It's not up to me to tell anyone how to interact on these threads and I don't mean to come across that way. But this comes up all the time.
"I feel jumped on."
"I don't get that"
"But I'm getting attacked"
"Where"
"blah, blah, BLAH"
My feeling is, it's because people pile on. Not meaning to I'm sure. And not trying to be asshats about it. But, to people who are new/trying/not there yet/intimidated already, it can really feel like they are being bullied.
Can we just hear that message and maybe think about it???
Geez.....I hate pollyanaing out but I really understand both "sides" for lack of a better word, on this.
Sorry, derail, ignore as needed, jump on me as needed, just please think about it.
julie