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Originally Posted by Sun
This is taking way too long. I really would like to see some direct action protests happen before March so that the Justices get the message that we are not all sitting back, all homogenized and suburban, sipping on iced tea, waiting for a stamp of approval from them when the civil rights of so many have been stripped away. What about all of the aging couples that are waiting on this? Prop 8 has been ruled unconstitutional by the 9th Circuit court of appeals, the presiding district. Thanks to Mormon and Catholic money, that has funded the "Yes on 8" hate campaign, our state is left with this legal mess. To add insult to injury, the case is a huge waste of taxpayers money. We are in a financial crisis in this nation and we are wasting money debating if it would be too offensive to some to allow same sex couples to marry.
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from another post:
The Prop 8 campaign was downright traumatizing for many of us. At an NGLTF training in Castro last spring, the agenda was sidelined by many community leaders sharing how traumatized they still were after the No on 8 campaign. I attended as a volunteer from our legislative ministry and spent hours listening to the pain of leaders who had not really processed this information, nor did they feel that they had a right to because after all, this is a battle and we are expected to keep on fighting.
For me the internal conflict is having to "fight" or "defend" something that is inherently about love. The NGLTF training experience made me aware that our leadership needs places to go and safely process the battle fatigue.
I never doubted that the Supreme Court would hear the Prop 8 case. How could they not? It is clearly unconstitutional.
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Sun this is not directed at you in particular, but is about issues you raised.
Frankly, protesting in front of SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the US) is a double edged sword. I'm pretty sure the anti-marriage folks have the same feeling from their perspective and will be out there protesting. Who is SCOTUS supposed to listen to? I prefer they ignore any and all protests and decide strictly on the merits of the cases.
NO civil rights issue is a waste of taxpayers money. It is one of the things my taxes should be paying for.....to promote the general welfare of the people which includes all civil rights issues.
SCOTUS is the last Court appeal. SCOTUS should step into this mess....that is what they are for......think back to the 60's and civil rights for black folk (and other POC). Public debate is a key to democracy and the more public debate, the better off we all will be.
As to our 'poor leaders' who are having trouble processing what a huge fuck-up they presided over.........I got zero sympathy for any of them. They presided over the worst political campaign I have ever experienced in all my years in social justice. They had their collective heads up their asses and ignored what worked in other civil rights campaigns (any political campaign really) our community won....think back to the CA proposition that would have banned gay teachers. They shoud be spending their time figuring out what they did wrong, rather than crying about being traumatized.........