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Originally Posted by Hack
I am, by no means, worldly. I grew up in a small American town with small town values of being polite, helping out those in need and God, apple pie and all that.
However, I've spent a little time in Western Europe. I felt humbled to be there, most of the time, because they obviously do some things better than we do (gay rights, health care, environment, public transit, sustainability, urban planning to an extent). And what interested me is the perceptions that some people I encountered had about me as an American. The most common misconception was that I must be wealthy if I was traveling in Europe. Truth is, I have what I consider a solid middle class lifestyle. I was fortunate to have someone to stay with while there, thus avoiding lodging costs. Yet, because I dressed well, spent money, and purchased meals out a lot, I was viewed as wealthy. I had to ask, "By whose standard?" It was interesting the responses I received.
Western Europeans are not all that enamored of the States and Americans. They think we are self-centered, arrogant and loud. They think we eat too much, work too much and don't play well with others. Many people I interacted with there had not been to the States, and it scared me they were basing their perceptions on American TV programs (everything from soaps to "Married With Children") or American films. Most of the Europeans I met considered themselves better traveled (I'd argue it's easier to do there than in America), more cultured and more civilized. I would agree that perhaps our view of the world rarely ventures out beyond our borders. I would agree that as a middle class American, it seems I am conditioned to spend money -- afterall, it is people like me who make the world economy go around. However, I took great exception to being lumped in with every other American. I would say Americans are such a diverse people and our differences don't cause as much consternation as some of the things going on politically in Western Europe with the "native Europeans" and the recent Muslim immigrants.
All that said, I think for any culture to teach exceptionalism certainly smacks of elitism. I felt no better than any European I encountered. I think it's wrong for us to think so...even if our supermarkets dwarf their grocery markets; and we have 12 varieties of Oreos to choose from when they only have the regular kind; and we pick up our dog poop and they do not.
Jake
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They do pick up dog poop in London!

and yes, it is easy to visit a ton of other countries when they are 2 hours away.
I agree with the rest except one point! They do think we are arrogant and we are. We are taught that we are better than everyone else, but so are the Japanese, the Chinese, the Argentines and a lot of other countries.
I think it is dangerous that we are so arrogant that we assume that the rest of the world finds us superior. They don't. I always end up apologizing a lot or pretending not to be from the US when I travel.
The point I do not agree with is the one where we handle our diversity better. I don't see it. Not with the militias building up, the views on recent immigrants, the mess New Orleans still is in and the blatant racism. Yes, those things go on in Europe too, but I don't see us being better at it. (I could however, be watching too much news and reading too much Mother Jones

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