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Jess · 04-20-2010, 07:40 PM

Highlighted Waldo's comments in red that I wanted to address. My responses are in blue. I suck at this kind of stuff, so sorry if it is confusing.

[QUOTE=Waldo;88850]There is more to the story - of course there is because this is just the beginning.

The complaint is a legal allegation from the plaintiff against a series of defendants. No arguments have been made. No exhibits have been presented.

Perhaps because it hasn't had its day in court. Evidence is usually not presented in the media before it has been presented in court.

After reading the complaint quickly I have a better understanding of, seemingly, why things may have happened the way they did. BUT I don't KNOW why they did, nor will I ever know.

There are allegations of abuse from the defendants against the plaintiff in regard to the decedent. What if they were true? Does that change anything for your opinion of what happened?

I have not seen statements that state this. Could you show me where those allegations were made against the plaintiff?

If the plaintiff was abusing his partner of 20 years and the medical staff acted to protect the decedent from continued abuse and sold off property and belongings to pay for the care required... does that make it ok?

Again.. I have read through all of this a few times over and have yet to find where Mr Greene was accused of abusing the decedant.

Again - I don't know what happened and I have not read every word, I'm just exercising my critical thinking skills in an effort to understand how and why this happened.

My thoughts are that this was an elderly couple.. One 78 and one 88. One fell down , broke a hip as it were and someone ( probably with the paramedics) made a complaint. It is usually as simple as that when it comes down to elderly couples ( homo or hetero-sexual) Unfortunately, it seems any directive to execution of estate was neglected and further set aside by the county administrators. If this happened to our grandparents.. we would be all over this shit. A lot of gay couples have no one other than themselves, particularly at this advanced age. They have no immediate family of advocates.

And regarding the validity of accusations of abuse... If there were documented records of abuse over a 20 year period that no one stepped in on, ( which I doubt) then I would be even more enraged at the system that so clearly failed these men.

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Jess Timed Out - Permanent How Do You Identify?: decidedly indifferent Preferred Pronoun?: other Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Patrick Springs, VA Posts: 2,812 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,247 Thanked 5,700 Times in 1,682 Posts Rep Power: 0	Highlighted Waldo's comments in red that I wanted to address. My responses are in blue. I suck at this kind of stuff, so sorry if it is confusing. [QUOTE=Waldo;88850]There is more to the story - of course there is because this is just the beginning. The complaint is a legal allegation from the plaintiff against a series of defendants. No arguments have been made. No exhibits have been presented. Perhaps because it hasn't had its day in court. Evidence is usually not presented in the media before it has been presented in court. After reading the complaint quickly I have a better understanding of, seemingly, why things may have happened the way they did. BUT I don't KNOW why they did, nor will I ever know. There are allegations of abuse from the defendants against the plaintiff in regard to the decedent. What if they were true? Does that change anything for your opinion of what happened? I have not seen statements that state this. Could you show me where those allegations were made against the plaintiff? If the plaintiff was abusing his partner of 20 years and the medical staff acted to protect the decedent from continued abuse and sold off property and belongings to pay for the care required... does that make it ok? Again.. I have read through all of this a few times over and have yet to find where Mr Greene was accused of abusing the decedant. Again - I don't know what happened and I have not read every word, I'm just exercising my critical thinking skills in an effort to understand how and why this happened. My thoughts are that this was an elderly couple.. One 78 and one 88. One fell down , broke a hip as it were and someone ( probably with the paramedics) made a complaint. It is usually as simple as that when it comes down to elderly couples ( homo or hetero-sexual) Unfortunately, it seems any directive to execution of estate was neglected and further set aside by the county administrators. If this happened to our grandparents.. we would be all over this shit. A lot of gay couples have no one other than themselves, particularly at this advanced age. They have no immediate family of advocates. And regarding the validity of accusations of abuse... If there were documented records of abuse over a 20 year period that no one stepped in on, ( which I doubt) then I would be even more enraged at the system that so clearly failed these men. Last edited by Jess; 04-20-2010 at 07:53 PM.