[Jess]

Thanks Waldo. Me in blue.

Originally Posted by Waldo

JESS - That is exactly my point. No evidence has been brought forth yet. Let's see. Let's look at the evidence instead of assuming we know what happened.



In section 23 of the complaint the following is stated:

"Defendants COUNTY, LIEDHOLM, STAGG-HOURIGAN, BREWSTER and others and each of them, further made representations and false and misleading statements in support of said Petition, including but not limited to accusing Plaintiff GREENE of committing physical abuse and financial abuse of Decedent, being a danger to Decedent"

Doesn't this go to say that the statements were "false and/ or misleading" ? I suppose that when it does go to court, the defendants will be forced to bring evidence of this alleged abuse.



Had you read the complaint or only the coverage of the complaint? I think it's kind of odd that none of the media has mentioned that little tidbit and I am positive that none of the agencies involved from the defendant's side are making a big deal out of it. Of course it's kind of a lot to expect of the media to actually dig into a case like this when they can't even get details of world events right.

I had not read the entire complaint. However in reading the section you pulled above, it doesn't speak to me of anything except slander on the part of the defendants. I doubt any more mainstream media would have jumped on this anymore than they would any other old couple who the county came in and took their home and/or put them in a nursing facility. We only hear of these things in the media when someone ( family or advocate) speaks up to the injustice involved. It's kind of like when we see shows about hoarders and the unhealthy/ unsafe conditions they live in and some agency intervenes.

Not knowing the whole situation is kind of a tricky place to jump to someone's defense. It surprises me that with the amount of attention this has received, the county or any of the defendants have not made some statement. Usually when a govt. body is accused of something like this( especially if they are in the right) a statement is issued.


Lots of cases of domestic abuse go unreported. I can't speak to whether there were or weren't ANY cases of abuse here. I'm reading the complaint and what the plaintiff's lawyer is saying his client was accused of.

And in summary? We can't know. We weren't there. How about we wait for the evidence to be presented before we damn anyone.

I'm cool with not damning anyone until more facts come to light. I am also very cool with sending as many petitions to as many politicians from President to local animal control that we need Marriage Equality. These are things going on to and within our community that brings up the old warrior in me and does encourage me to take action whenever I can. My personal responsibility starts in having clear legal documentation to protect my WIFE and stepson in the case of my death or long term care. My global responsibility comes in telling the elected officials in my county/ state/ country that this shit is getting real old and is totally unacceptable.

I imagine a great many conversations are happening about this case. If the allegations prove false and the plaintiffs truly did overstep the human rights of this couple, I am sure the more mainstream media will cover that story, because it will be more visible as the outrage of gay folks swells.