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Originally Posted by TenderKnight

Hiya, rbently!

Congradulations on finding that long, twisting road called gender identity! lol.. I haven't ever heard the term "stem" either, but will have to google it..

I identify as a transgender guy.. But I may not always do so.. Since I came out at 18 I've labled myself as lesbian, butch, TG butch, boi, boy, human, fag, queer, and now just transguy.. I also ID'd as Stone for a while, because of the not wanting to be seen as a woman thing and and not wanting to be treated as a woman. *shrug*

I do have to say though.. Ellen and Rosie are not Butch, at least, not in my book.. They are lesbains.. And studs are not the "ghetto" butch.. That is kinda like saying that a black man is the "ghetto" version of the white man.. Stud is a term all it's own, like butch, but owned by many, not just "darker" folks.. Stud rose from it's own history, just like butch did. This is not an attack, please don't take it as such.. I am just sharing my view here

I wish you well on your life's journey, and just remember, no matter what term you use to define what you are, remember to be honest with yourself first, before trying to be honest with the world.. This is something I had to learn, and it can be a hard lesson at times.. lol

In Light,
Tony

PS- OK, I give up.. what is the deffinition of stem? I googles it, and found notta.. Is it your own self-made term? lol.. sorry, will bug me if I don't KNOW Thanks!

Thank you for clearing that up or at least putting in your thoughts. Which when it comes to discussions I love this kind of stuff. I hardly get any kind of gender or idendity talks in my community and my family. So I kind of have to talk it out in my head. I never really did my history look up on studs. I just went by what other people said/say. Anyways for you and jet both to know what I at least believe a stem is, according to the people I have talked to a stem is basically like a stud but also femme at the same time. I take it as the way we dress, or at least the way I dress. My days very, some days I like to be more "girly" and others more "boyish". And like I kinda mentioned before I dont like labels and society likes to do that people. I consider myself to enjoy fashion and clothes. And I appreciate things in my own eyes....enough of the mumble. Yea, that def is what a stem for me is.

I am not sure though if stem is just now like a new word because most people I have talked to about is like in their early 20s and late teens. I never did figure that one out.