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Originally Posted by betenoire

You know...people are going to use drugs regardless. How many people who don't use drugs do you know that say "wow, if it were legal I would TOTALLY do heroine ALL the fucking time!"? None, right?

Neither you nor I don't really know that for sure do we? Do you want to take that chance?
People who use will use, and people who don't use won't use. Legalizing the stuff isn't going to make a spit of difference.
Again, you truly don't know that for sure. And of the people that do use, are you saying we should make it easier for them to use crack, heroin, ice, cheese and all the other variations of high addiction drugs to what, enjoy the freedom of purchase? You aren't thinking of the repercussions of those people who are already hooked. It would be like giving them a loaded gun. I mean really, picture your brother or sister on drugs, hooked, on the streets, then tell me again it would be okay to legalize that poison and let them have it cheaper to continue to indulge. That's not the way to eradicate these drug wars. You think the government isn't getting theirs? Where do you think all those vehicles and moneys garnished through arrests and checkpoints stops and what not don't benefit the government? It benefits local government as well as federal...everybody has their hand out...take a look at the public notices with intent to auction in Mcallen alone and see how many tote bags and bundles of monies sometimes in the 1/2 mil available for claim. lol..Nobody claims those. They go back into the system to fight "the war on drugs". Guess who pays taxes on that? Local gov who pays to federal in taxes or one way or the other...pharmaceuticals? They've been raping the people with no lube for that last several decades. What a crock. Legalize drugs, they freakin survive already and are an enterprising business even as the are illegal...making them legal will only make them more accessible. the lure of the drugs is that users make non users think they're cool. They are not. That's all it is. Movies like Scarface glamourized the trade and and now we have all paid the ultimate price and will continue to pay it, unless the Mexican government gets up off their lazy, cowardly behind and does something about it. Guess what, they won't. It's the way of the world over there...ever been? I grew up here on the border...I know what it's like...money talks...you should see the huge houses built out here, yet we live in one of the poorest counties in the US per capita...Hummers, Jags, BMWs, they are the biggest sellers out here and yet most of the purchasers are from where? You guessed it, Mexico...on the other hand, the housing market is going up very quickly out here...guess who is buying houses out here? Mexican nationals...yes, the cartels and the people who have a vested interest are making land purchases, funneleing their monies into real estate...(we don't say money laundering out here)...

Right now in the city of Reynosa, guess who runs the local police? The drug cartel. The foot soldiers (pistoleros) run the streets. they will block you in if you pass them up for going too slow and they will pull you over, investigate why you are in a hurry, and if your story isn't worthy, they will kill you on sight, and take your car, leave you on the side of the road and laugh about it over lunch. The police? They look the other way because they are bought and paid for by the cartles or risk losing their lives as is evident by the token sacrifice of the mayor of the city of Reynosa and his assassination last year to show the muscle of the cartel. Everybody was up in arms, local police, investigators and the judiciales (police in Reynosa). No one was prosecuted for this crime. This Is A True Story.
Let the crap get legalized. Let the government standardize it. Make the drugs themselves safer (ie - not cut with something really scary) and go all gung-ho about harm reduction so people can use the drugs more "safely". Sell the shit for cheaper than the dealers do - there won't be dealers any more once it's no longer profitable. Hell, legalizing it would curb a world of drug trade related violence. It'd make things safer for everybody involved, and even for those who are uninvolved. Christ, TAX the stuff.

The drugs will always be cut (wink* spoken like a a person with experience in street drugs)....whether you use or you deal, its not a good idea. People who use don't think about consequenses and people who sell drugs, don't care what those are...they are in it for the money...sad little people they are...they have no idea that fast money goes just as it comes and they don't see it...and if they do, they run to catch up to make more cuz greedy drug dealers always want more. They are no different than the government in my opinion. Lil Brother vs. Big Brother I don't know which is the more vile...think about that...if not for you, then at least for someone you care about. You may not think about it, but there are drugs dealer [kids age] in elementary schools and the like...and if you don't have kids, how about nieces and nephews...you really want to make street drugs readily available to them?

Legalizing would only bring on another set of problems, each bigger than the one now...and world trade violence will give way to some other trade soon enough...trust me, we have more important things to think about like getting deported and having one hell of a time trying to get back to our homeland like Cheech in that "Born in East LA" movie he was in years ago...