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Old 04-27-2010, 10:51 PM   #153
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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow View Post
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Economic boycotting of AZ seems to be picking up speed. When AZ refused to honor MLK's birthday, these nationwide tactics worked! This is NOT the first time that AZ has done this sort of thing concerning racist attitudes. I urge posters to research the MLK situation in the '90's.

Side note for the thread, not a response to your post: I have to note that statistics about illegal immigrants and costs to taxpayers is not the crux of the matter here. This law subjects all people, legal or not to not only possible racial profiling, but really says that every person in AZ is to carry proof of citizenship!

Today, Mexico (and I believe other Latin American countries) issued statements to their citizens that engage in tourism in AZ (which is quite lucrative to the state- and oh, by the way, Latin people do take vacations, not all are uneducated migrant workers as is commonly believed (there are colleges and universities, tech and professional schools in Latin countries!).

I just have to point this out when people start in with the costs to taxpayers due to illegal immigrants (not all of which are Latin) begin to be articulated. Where the hell do people think all of the money that is collected via payroll deductions on phony social security numbers goes? it goes into the SS coffers! And the person using that fake number is never going to collect that money!! There is plenty of evidence demonstrating that although illegal, most of these people indeed pay into various tax generated systems. Sales tax is another. Much of this data is well... unavailable due to the secretive nature of it. again, where do people think these folks shop for food, clothing and other goods? In stores! They also pay for college tuition, etc. via fake documents, etc. many take on other identities to be able to live and work here.

I am not going to say that I don't believe that illegal immigration is fine and dandy, or that it doesn't impact the US financially (and is related to a lot of crime). But, we don't really have the actual data on how much they actually put into our total economy. Those records don't exist!

The main issue with this bill is not the economic issues involved, it is about racial profiling and a state legislating a law that it cannot legitimately legislate. It is up to the federal government.

Don't even get me started on the big corporations that knowingly (and actively recruit) illegal immigrants to work for them for cheap labor. This whole situation has many guilty parties and not all of them are in the US illegally!

Some of the recent posts are looking like blanket statements that all Latin people in the US are here illegally (also, Latin people do not perform anything but low-skill, labor intensive work)- which is at the very core of the racist attitudes in this legislation. And there the basic question of its constitutionality and infringement upon Civil Rights extending far beyond immigration issues.
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