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Old 07-01-2010, 11:25 AM   #23
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I consider sexual orientation as a whole to be biological in origin. While the biological nature of sexuality may be a piece of the puzzle as far as what spawned this research to eliminate homosexual and bisexual tendencies, I can't see any scientific basis for such an elimination to occur.
That's because there is absolutely no scientific justification for such an elimination. Homosexuality is almost certainly biological--I would be absolutely stunned if it were not because, just off the top of my head, I can think of two paths Nature might take to get there--and there is no reason to treat it as a pathology since it is not.

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Instead of saying that people shouldn't so insistantly claim homosexuality and bisexuality as biological, - which almost seems like a form of self-oppression for the sake of self-preservation - we should be questioning what scientific basis there is for such a "cleansing," if any? Personally I can't see one, and the desire of certain scientists to limit humanity to one sexuality solely for the purpose of procreation and "normality" seems like it is far more influenced by the remnants of monotheistic religious ideology than science itself.
It is. Science can help us understand why homosexuality occurs (and it IS an interesting question) but it cannot tell us what our ethics around it should or could be. This woman's research is *entirely* motivated by religiosity with absolutely no basis, none what-so-ever, in any kind of scientific rigor.

Edit, speaking of dystopian fiction, has anyone else just got a Handmaid's Tale flashback?[/QUOTE]

I have been having Handmaid's Tale flashbacks for about two years now. Every time I see the Tea Party or hear conservatives Republicans going on about 'restoring America', I think that we are blithely cruising toward the world that Atwood described.

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