I need to read this entire thread...but till I do, a couple of thoughts.
1. A shit house rat would be better than the Cheeto.
2. My current favorite is Elizabeth Warren
3. All of the Democratic Presidents I remember were centrist. I dream of a Socialist Utopia, or at least the programs that LBJ put in place, healthcare and education for everyone and no children in cages.
4. I will vote for whomever the Dems run for President
5. I think Kamala Harris is very elegant and poised...don't see the classless/unstatespersonish angle
6. What the hell is it going to take to get Trump out of there, though, I am not sure Pence would be any better
7. I have heard whisperings that Trump is going to drop Pence for 2020 and run ....Ivanka as VP...