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I am a femme because of how I am and present around butch women. Men do not have this effect on me. Women do not have this effect on me. Women that express more T than me do. And babies. Babies and butches make me wax femme. |
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People.......individuals ARE NOT HORMONES! Nor is there ANY scientific basis for you to draw that conclusion. Femme is NOT defined by attraction to butch women or babies. And you just lumped sexual attraction in with babies........ick. But I will let the femmes have at you over that little statement. Twin-spirited sounds a whole lot like two-spirit which is an Indian (aboriginal/indigenous) concept found in many tribes in North America and across the world. 'Scientists' have long spent hours trying to define concepts in western terms that have NO place in western thought. I'm sure the two-spirit folks will appreciate you defining them by western pharmacology and thought.....but then there is nothing new about that, as it's been going on in the Americas for at least 400 years. Damn white people sure do like to appropriate non-western, non-white culture..........
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So, saying that femmes or butches harvest or maintain a constant of more than one or the other is not exactly true. I am a femme because i was born that way. Has nothing to do with who i am around cis men or butch women or FTMs ect. In other words....I am femme and if i fall in the woods, alone, i will still be a femme. No one and no gender and certainly not one steady or unsteady hormone determines who i am. I just am.
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please don't let google define who you are either.
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You don't define me. Neither does how much estrogen, or other hormone i have in my body at any given time or lack thereof.
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It's a self Identifier, it's an energy, it's not a definition.
And. It's a Gender Identity, not always indicative of ones Sexual Identity. Example ~ no one makes love 'like' a Butch, they make love 'as' a Butch. Just like any other 'group' folks choose to Identify with, no one person can be the epitome of that group. That's the beauty of it that folks forget to stand proud in appreciation of...our Diversity as folks who include Butch in our list of Identities.
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This is not the place to argue about my beliefs. This is the place to discuss whether or not butch is an umbrella term. If you want to fight with me about my beliefs, please do so in a different thread. Maybe y'all should start a "Why I can't stand someone pontificating" thread? Or "Why I hate pompous people" thread. That might get me to shut up. But this thread is about butch as an umbrella presentation. I do not think it would be respecting Fanbutch and hys query to have this thread change into something else. |
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While I've never been tested, it's clear to anyone with eyes that my testosterone levels are on the high end of the female scale. That has NOTHING to do with me being femme. Unless a person is intersex or has adrenal hyperplasia there is NO way to correlate hormone levels with butchness or femmeness. Your simplistic outlook is kind of horrifying, and certainly insulting. Please stop.
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EDIT: Just read Cheryl's post...agreed
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These folks hit the nail on the head quite nicely - if you feel that you are butch (or a butch), then you are; and this means that everything you wear, eat, watch, do, love, etc., is something a butch would wear, eat, watch, do, love, etc., because you are butch (or a butch) .... like a neat little circle. And hey - welcome to the site. |
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I have to say that if I had the money, I would go to this nurse practitioner in Sacramento that some friends go to. She does hormone balancing. I don't understand it. But they have felt a lot better since going. It's observable how much better they are. So . . . who knows?
She is godawful expensive though, and my cats seem to want to eat everyday. They are unreasonable like that. |
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if you feel like a butch then you are one. No one can take that from you no matter what you wear or what you do. If you feel like a butch, you are! Now rejoice! |
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A butch is. Period.
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Oy vey
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Still BUTCH Dominant doesn't belong to one gender...
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