|
09-27-2016, 07:10 AM
|
#81 |
|
Senior Member
How Do You Identify?:
butch Preferred Pronoun?:
she Relationship Status:
single and very content this way... 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: the midwest
Posts: 1,784
Thanks: 317
Thanked 1,300 Times in 367 Posts
Rep Power: 9955619   |
Unconditional love to me means.... my 2 daughters and my my grandkids.... that's the only experience I've had with Unconditional love.
|
|
|
| The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to anotherbutch For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 08:39 AM
|
#82 |
|
Senior Member
How Do You Identify?:
*** 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: ***
Posts: 4,999
Thanks: 13,409
Thanked 18,367 Times in 4,171 Posts
Rep Power: 21474854 |
I agree that there is in the parent-child bond.
__________________
"No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up" - Lily Tomlin |
|
|
|
| The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Martina For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 08:48 AM
|
#83 |
|
Infamous Member
How Do You Identify?:
je ne sais quoi Preferred Pronoun?:
baby grrl Relationship Status:
a few laughs 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: in the real
Posts: 8,802
Thanks: 21,381
Thanked 21,371 Times in 6,721 Posts
Rep Power: 21474859 |
Unconditional means you never stop loving-that doesn't mean you approve or like-but love never dies-the universe is built on it
__________________
"All cruelty springs from weakness" Seneca |
|
|
|
| The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to kittygrrl For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 08:59 AM
|
#84 | |
|
Infamous Member
How Do You Identify?:
femme *blows a kiss off my finger tips ** Preferred Pronoun?:
~ hey girl ~ Relationship Status:
~ single & content ~ 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Massachusetts ~coastal
Posts: 7,905
Thanks: 22,958
Thanked 16,124 Times in 4,736 Posts
Rep Power: 21474858 |
~
Quote:
 ~ as long as you have felt that forgiving, accepting ,unjudgmental love u felt "unconditional love" ~
__________________
~ Always, ocean |
|
|
|
|
| The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to ~ocean For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 09:16 AM
|
#85 | |
|
Infamous Member
How Do You Identify?:
je ne sais quoi Preferred Pronoun?:
baby grrl Relationship Status:
a few laughs
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: in the real
Posts: 8,802
Thanks: 21,381
Thanked 21,371 Times in 6,721 Posts
Rep Power: 21474859 |
Quote:
__________________
"All cruelty springs from weakness" Seneca |
|
|
|
|
| The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to kittygrrl For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 09:36 AM
|
#86 |
|
Senior Member
How Do You Identify?:
feminine dolly dyke Preferred Pronoun?:
Your Grace Relationship Status:
I put my own care first 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: In a gauze of mystery
Posts: 1,776
Thanks: 2,426
Thanked 9,727 Times in 1,613 Posts
Rep Power: 21474852 |
hmn. I've never had it in the romantic sense. No wait. That's wrong. I love my exwife. I care that she is ok. I wish she is happy. And I like to know she's doing ok. But I find her irritating, irresponsible, gets on my very last nerve, drives me batshit, and I wish she would get her shit together. I also can't truly forgive what she did. I don't mind being in light contact with her on occasion in fb, but I don't want to hang out with her, I don't want her interfering with my shit, but I do love her.
Love as an emotion on its own doesn't mean much. I have been absurd by people who loved me. Sincerely and definitely felt that emotions of love for me. It's someone's personality and functioning that matter. Emptions are just emotions. There is nothing wrong with anger. It's an emotion. It tells us something is wrong. It's how we use it, cope with it, and function with it. Love is no different. Emotions are just feelings. They don't do things, they only occur. People enact emotions and those enactments matter. Not the emotions themselves. ASo fucking what if someone loves me. Do they hit me? Do they lie? Are they a drunk? It makes about as much difference for someone who loves me and never acts on it as it doesn't for someone who loves me and never acts on it by neglecting me. Someone could love you very much and it doesn't matter because you don't know, they don't interact with you and they keep their distance. Someone could love you and sexually assault you. Values and enactment is what matter. Emotions just are. Signed A complete pragmatist |
|
|
|
| The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to imperfect_cupcake For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 10:33 AM
|
#87 |
|
Member
How Do You Identify?:
Stone Femme Preferred Pronoun?:
She Relationship Status:
Shy for President 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NH
Posts: 1,105
Thanks: 5,475
Thanked 3,678 Times in 898 Posts
Rep Power: 21474847 |
I believe that there is such thing as unconditional love. I love my family that way. I don't always like them but I love them.
I don't believe that "love never dies". I was very much in love with my ex but not at all now. Caring if someone dies and loving then is very different, IMHO
__________________
Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don't resist them - that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like. ~Lao Tzu |
|
|
|
| The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Shystonefem For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 10:55 AM
|
#88 | |
|
Infamous Member
How Do You Identify?:
je ne sais quoi Preferred Pronoun?:
baby grrl Relationship Status:
a few laughs
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: in the real
Posts: 8,802
Thanks: 21,381
Thanked 21,371 Times in 6,721 Posts
Rep Power: 21474859 |
Quote:
__________________
"All cruelty springs from weakness" Seneca |
|
|
|
|
| The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to kittygrrl For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 12:11 PM
|
#89 |
|
Senior Member
How Do You Identify?:
N/A  Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: WA
Posts: 4,434
Thanks: 37,962
Thanked 10,499 Times in 3,157 Posts
Rep Power: 21474849 |
The only problem I have with the idea of unconditional love is that these days, so many people’s interpretation of what that actually means, seems to involve not holding others responsible/making them accountable for their behavior.
|
|
|
|
| The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to FireSignFemme For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 12:48 PM
|
#90 |
|
Infamous Member
How Do You Identify?:
je ne sais quoi Preferred Pronoun?:
baby grrl Relationship Status:
a few laughs
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: in the real
Posts: 8,802
Thanks: 21,381
Thanked 21,371 Times in 6,721 Posts
Rep Power: 21474859 |
Unconditional love is known as affection without any limitations, it can also be love without conditions. This term is sometimes associated with other terms such as true altruism, or complete love. Each area of expertise has a certain way of describing unconditional love, but most will agree that it is that type of love which has no bounds and is unchanging.
It doesn't imply those who enjoy it enjoy no accountability. The whole point is, just because someone does unkind, mean, disrespectful things does not mean you stop loving them. If you love conditionally then you can't claim it was ever unconditional.
__________________
"All cruelty springs from weakness" Seneca |
|
|
|
| The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to kittygrrl For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 04:35 PM
|
#91 |
|
Member
How Do You Identify?:
Stone Femme Preferred Pronoun?:
She Relationship Status:
Shy for President
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NH
Posts: 1,105
Thanks: 5,475
Thanked 3,678 Times in 898 Posts
Rep Power: 21474847 |
Unconditional love stops after abuse. When love changes into fear, how is it possible to love and fear someone at the same time?
I have loved unconditionally, until I realized that I was afraid of the person. I don't think you can love someone that hurts you over and over.
__________________
Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don't resist them - that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like. ~Lao Tzu |
|
|
|
|
09-27-2016, 05:48 PM
|
#92 |
|
Senior Member
How Do You Identify?:
Butch of stone Preferred Pronoun?:
The guy kind 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 2,891
Thanks: 6,107
Thanked 3,460 Times in 1,006 Posts
Rep Power: 21474847 |
I agree that the child and parent love is unconditional.
Other than that I'm not so sure. I can't help but think realistically on this. No matter how much you love someone is there not lines they could cross? I don't think love can go away in the blink of an eye but if someone crosses lines.... Combine that with time and it could very well go away. When you say unconditional I think literal. I do have a child and a family and there are lines that could be crossed. (Abuse. Murder. Etc) Horrific thoughts yes but because of these things I don't think I can say unconditional. Sure I can say if these things are not done but then that's not unconditional. Don't get me wrong. I believe in love and I believe love can be forever. Just not unconditional outside of my first sentence.
__________________
"Our bodies were printed as blank pages to be filled with the ink of our hearts” |
|
|
|
| The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to TL1 For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 06:12 PM
|
#93 |
|
Practically Lives Here
How Do You Identify?:
Transgender Preferred Pronoun?:
He/him/his Relationship Status:
Single 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 17,752
Thanks: 31,018
Thanked 28,871 Times in 9,718 Posts
Rep Power: 21474863 |
Only unconditional love that I have received is from my dog. She doesn't judge, doesn't hate on the choices I make.
__________________
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Albert Einstein |
|
|
|
| The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to JDeere For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 06:14 PM
|
#94 | |
|
Senior Member
How Do You Identify?:
***
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: ***
Posts: 4,999
Thanks: 13,409
Thanked 18,367 Times in 4,171 Posts
Rep Power: 21474854 |
Quote:
__________________
"No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up" - Lily Tomlin |
|
|
|
|
| The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Martina For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 06:16 PM
|
#95 | |
|
Practically Lives Here
How Do You Identify?:
Transgender Preferred Pronoun?:
He/him/his Relationship Status:
Single
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 17,752
Thanks: 31,018
Thanked 28,871 Times in 9,718 Posts
Rep Power: 21474863 |
Quote:
__________________
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Albert Einstein |
|
|
|
|
| The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to JDeere For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 06:24 PM
|
#96 | |
|
Infamous Member
How Do You Identify?:
Lesbian non-stone femme Preferred Pronoun?:
She, her Relationship Status:
Committed to being good to myself Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Coast
Posts: 8,258
Thanks: 39,306
Thanked 40,800 Times in 7,290 Posts
Rep Power: 21474856 |
Quote:
__________________
~Anya~  Democracy Dies in Darkness ~Washington Post "...I'm deeply concerned by recently adopted policies which punish children for their parents’ actions ... The thought that any State would seek to deter parents by inflicting such abuse on children is unconscionable." UN Human Rights commissioner |
|
|
|
|
| The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to *Anya* For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 09:39 PM
|
#97 |
|
Infamous Member
How Do You Identify?:
je ne sais quoi Preferred Pronoun?:
baby grrl Relationship Status:
a few laughs
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: in the real
Posts: 8,802
Thanks: 21,381
Thanked 21,371 Times in 6,721 Posts
Rep Power: 21474859 |
Everyone's ideas about unconditional love are appreciated but I have to say while you may believe you love someone unconditionally until they do something to cross the line, then it is not unconditional at all but very conditional. It may come as a rude awakening that you did not love them as much as you thought you did because you never believed they would ever cross your boundary but, as long as you have a boundary it's not unconditional. However, I think we are capable of loving someone very much and yet if they cross a boundary -infidelity, abuse, murder then we find we love less or not at all-this has nothing to do with unconditional love-
Note to JD..I believe your doggie loves you unconditionally..pets trust us, depend us, and teach us how to love back 
__________________
"All cruelty springs from weakness" Seneca |
|
|
|
| The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to kittygrrl For This Useful Post: |
|
09-27-2016, 10:58 PM
|
#98 |
|
Member
How Do You Identify?:
Lady Sunflower Preferred Pronoun?:
She/her 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: San Fran
Posts: 844
Thanks: 463
Thanked 1,669 Times in 615 Posts
Rep Power: 9338275 |
I'm still searching for it within myself and within the universe... I believe in it like a child that blindly believes in a fairytale or magic... I cannot provide empirical proof of its existence... I cannot even rationalize it as a transcendental phenomenon in Kantian sense... Yet, I choose to believe that unconditional love exists somewhere, between some entities, that it can be felt and provided under some magical circumstances, without questions, without conditions and without debts of ethics or ratio.
__________________
When life turns its back on you....grab its ass 
|
|
|
|
| The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bubala For This Useful Post: |
|
09-28-2016, 08:09 AM
|
#99 | |
|
Practically Lives Here
How Do You Identify?:
Queer Stone Femme Girl of the Unicorn Variety Preferred Pronoun?:
She, as in 'She's a GEM' 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The roads are narrow here
Posts: 36,585
Thanks: 182,168
Thanked 108,771 Times in 25,657 Posts
Rep Power: 21474887 |
Quote:
If someone betrays your trust it has nothing to do with you not loving them 'as much as you thought you did'. A betrayal is devastating and there are deep and long-lasting effects from it but it says nothing about the person betrayed and everything about the person who committed the act. I think, as humans, we should extend certain courtesies to one another: honesty, loyalty and integrity in all we do with or for them. If we do not exhibit these traits, it's not on the other person or a judgement of their love, but falls solely on the perpetrator of the betrayal. I believe that love should have conditions such as the boundaries you mentioned. Having personal boundaries is a way we protect and honor and love ourselves. If we cannot love ourselves enough to do that, we surely cannot love anyone else in a healthy and realistic way. |
|
|
|
|
| The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Gemme For This Useful Post: |
|
09-28-2016, 09:10 AM
|
#100 | |
|
Member
How Do You Identify?:
Stone Femme Preferred Pronoun?:
She Relationship Status:
Shy for President
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NH
Posts: 1,105
Thanks: 5,475
Thanked 3,678 Times in 898 Posts
Rep Power: 21474847 |
Quote:
I disagree. I believe that unconditional love, just like love, can fade away. I can (and did) love someone through betrayal, abuse, etc and even after I was away from the situation, I loved that person but it fades and goes away. I don't think unconditional love has to be forever to be unconditional. I think the presence of it is enough to qualify as unconditional. I think it goes back to what imperfect_cupcake said, the definition of unconditional love is subjective to one's own interpretation.
__________________
Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don't resist them - that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like. ~Lao Tzu |
|
|
|
|
 |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
I'm misunderestimated. 
Linear Mode
