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Old 05-08-2011, 04:40 PM   #1
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What is the fascination ?
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Is it easier for them to go for a butch,because visually they can maybe have the best of both worlds ?

Male looks,female anatomy ?
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Is it easier for them to go for a butch,because visually they can maybe have the best of both worlds ?

Male looks,female anatomy ?
For me: Female masculinity is hot.

It's not about the *best of both worlds*--it is about being aware of one's desires--and that goes both ways for butches as well as the femmes...and all people, no?
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June (loving the name) I know love takes all shapes and forms,what I wonder is for a straight or supposedly straight woman is a butch a way to explore their sexuality with someone who visually looks male so as not to give the game away ..
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I don't know. Go ask a straight woman.
Am seeing one .. Although I think I have blurred her straight lines out
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June (loving the name) I know love takes all shapes and forms,what I wonder is for a straight or supposedly straight woman is a butch a way to explore their sexuality with someone who visually looks male so as not to give the game away ..
I don't know about that....giving "the game away"?....When I dated butches, it was quite obvious we were both women regardless of how they identified.

If anything, we were more noticeable and immediately considered lesbian/queer by the general public.
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I don't know about that....giving "the game away"?....When I dated butches, it was quite obvious we were both women regardless of how they identified.

If anything, we were more noticeable and immediately considered lesbian/queer by the general public.

What about if she passes and is perceived to be male ?
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Is that because you date Butches who don't pass ?
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I don't know about that....giving "the game away"?....When I dated butches, it was quite obvious we were both women regardless of how they identified.

If anything, we were more noticeable and immediately considered lesbian/queer by the general public.
Addendum: I should have written, it was obvious we were both "female born" as some did not ID as women.
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I don't know. Go ask a straight woman.
I'm with June......except I'd say you would have to ask each individual straight woman what her specific interest and/or fascination and/or attraction is.

There's no possible way for anyone here (or anywhere) to provide a definitive answer to that question. Anything anyone offers is purely and merely speculation.

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It could be "straight" is The only label she knows to identify with, sexual curiosity could be what she is free to do. Heteronorm is what is continually shoved in our faces vía media, religion, culturally. Then again I'm one to believe we're all sexually fluid until sexual standards are fed to us.
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I realise this is a bit off topic, but I've seen women go completely gaga over my bf when they find out he's trans ? What is it that they are looking for I wonder, how do they imagine he'd be different to any other guy?

I've never been butch but I have attracted a fair amount of straight women in my youth, so I'm not so weirded out by the straight girl/butch thing. I figure it's the woman-thing that attracts them, rather than any particular ID, just like some women like feminine men and some like masculine, so what you like tends to cross genders. I don't think it's necessarily a 'queer' attraction however, as straight doesn't mean narrow. If they were all porn would be the same, all kink would be the same and they'd all wear the same kind of underwear ... oh wait!
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What about if she passes and is perceived to be male ?
Actually I did know one lesbian who frequently passed and so pulled many a very surprised and intrigued straight woman.
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Actually I did know one lesbian who frequently passed and so pulled many a very surprised and intrigued straight woman.

Me I am an honourable butch,I couldn't take advantage of an unknowing straight woman.

All my ex's have previously been straight and knew the score with me, I guess an unscrupulous butch could take advantage of a straight woman's vulnerabilities ??
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What group June ? I will have a peek.
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I think it is the butchfemme dance most often. That energy exists in the atmosphere. It is a dance. There is all kine dancin....I have done alotta alotta that dancin. The straight women are saying they love and admire butch energy. They are attracted to those who are themselves regardless of societal pressure. Rebels and freedom are archetypical of strength. These are just words with maybe some illumimation. I always ask straight women why they wanna be with me...it is always desire.
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This could be fetish-ization (What is the real word I am looking for?)
I suspected as much. It's a bit rubbish, sleeping with someone just to add to your life experience, though I guess it could be fun if you didn't mind being objectified..
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Like June put,sometimes we see things differently this side of the pond .. It doesn't make your thoughts or our thoughts any less topical.
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Some of them are probably straight, and some are not. Like dykes who fuck men. Some may be developing a different sexual orientation, and some are just turned on by a guy or guys. We have no way to know.

i think it's only decent of you to assume that her motivations are that she likes you and wants to fuck you. Why interrogate her motivations unless she has given you reason to doubt them? Clearly you have dated straight women before. Is something about this one making you have doubts?
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