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Secret Service is assigned for life for the president and spouse as well as minor children, in this case only Baron will continue to receive it. They can refuse it, but only Richard Nixon has done so.

I had to look up the post-office benefits. A former president does receive a pension, over $200,000 a year (salary in office is $400,000), as well as medical benefits, though the details of those benefits I can't find with a quick search. There are other perks as well, like cost of office space, but again, didn't dig too deeply into that. Pretty sure legal representation is not part of the package (insert appropriate smiley face).
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In case you're wondering, protection would continue if an ex-president went to prison.
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In case you're wondering, protection would continue if an ex-president went to prison.
Of course they'd have to find Secret Service agents willing to do this. That might be a hard thing to do, not because of who he is but because of what the duty would entail. No one's going to sample his food for him.

I wonder if they could refurbish a small part of Alcatraz, rent it from the National Park Service, and charge him for the privilege.
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"Your credibility... will die in this room"


Sheldon Whitehouse issued a blunt warning to his Republican colleagues on Thursday, as he watched the Judiciary Committee ready Amy Coney Barrett’s Supreme Court nomination for the Senate floor.

There will not be two sets of rules for Democratic and Republican Senate majorities, Whitehouse vowed; the GOP decision to block President Barack Obama’s nominee in 2016 and approve President Donald Trump’s just days before the 2020 election will have consequences.

“Don’t think when you have established the rule of ‘because we can,’ that should the shoe be on the other foot, you will have any credibility to come to us and say: ‘yeah, I know you can do that, but you shouldn’t,’” Whitehouse said. “Your credibility to make that argument at any time in the future will die in this room and on that Senate floor if you continue.”

The Rhode Island Democrat succinctly stated what’s on everyone’s mind: Once Barrett is confirmed, all bets are off about how the Senate — and the Supreme Court — might look a few months from now if Democrats sweep in November.

It was amazing how pointed and articulate this gentlemen was during the hearings.

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Sounds like a very crowded prison cell, esp if there's only one toilet.
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Over 30 million people have voted so far! That's 21.7% of the total who voted in 2016 (about 138 million). This year, it is expected that 150 million or more might vote, so it's probably about 20% in the bank.

Democrats are doing a great job of getting out and voting early. Obviously, the most committed people will vote first and we have a long way to go, but we have a lot of votes in the bank and a lot more than Republicans.

I think the Republicans are making a big mistake by bashing mail-in voting and they don't seem to be encouraging early in-person voting either. There is nothing wrong with voting in person on election day, but getting votes in early helps to avoid unexpected events - bad weather, virus outbreaks, your car not starting, etc. On the campaign level, it also allows the Biden campaign to see where votes have been cast and where they are outstanding. The Republicans have a lot less early votes in so they are more in the dark.

Here is the cool early vote tracker I am keeping an eye on:

https://electproject.github.io/Early...20G/index.html
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I wish I could share in the optimism that those out voting early are voting for Biden.

When I see the big turnouts Trump drew in Janesville WI and then again today in Prescott AZ it really scares me!

Four years ago at this time we thought Hillary had it all sewed up but look how that turned out..
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I wish I could share in the optimism that those out voting early are voting for Biden.

When I see the big turnouts Trump drew in Janesville WI and then again today in Prescott AZ it really scares me!

Four years ago at this time we thought Hillary had it all sewed up but look how that turned out..
A lot more Democrats have voted than Republicans so far. You can see that at the site I linked to in my previous post.

The situation is not the same as 2016. However, nothing should be taken for granted and people who have not yet voted definitely need to.
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I wish I could share in the optimism that those out voting early are voting for Biden.

When I see the big turnouts Trump drew in Janesville WI and then again today in Prescott AZ it really scares me!

Four years ago at this time we thought Hillary had it all sewed up but look how that turned out..
Trump is getting relatively small crowds, and they are his hard core people that go from event to event to hear their “God”.

When Hillary ran I knew deep inside that she would lose, but this time I don’t get that same feeling. Hillary made a horrible choice for a V.P. Running mate, and was so sure of her win that she appeared arrogant., which is a bad combo for running against a dynamic person proposing change.

Anything can happen, but Trump winning without help, not worried.
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Over 30 million people have voted so far! That's 21.7% of the total who voted in 2016 (about 138 million). This year, it is expected that 150 million or more might vote, so it's probably about 20% in the bank.

Democrats are doing a great job of getting out and voting early. Obviously, the most committed people will vote first and we have a long way to go, but we have a lot of votes in the bank and a lot more than Republicans.

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Here is the cool early vote tracker I am keeping an eye on:

https://electproject.github.io/Early...20G/index.html
We lost very important people this past year, who spent their entire lives fighting on political fronts for people of color, the LBGTQ, and a host of other important, vital issues most Americans see intrinsically as vital to their every day life existence. In my mind, nothing but a landslide vote in favor of the Biden/Harris ticket will do. I know it can be a close call, but every instinct i have tells me that this will be the most important election for generations to come.

I mailed my ballot in person at the post office. I signed up for electronic notice that my ballot has been counted (should know by end of week).

Keeping my fingers crossed that justice will be served and that the will of the people will show that TP is out and Biden/Harris will win back our country from the terrible reign of terror by current DC (GOP) admin.

Gooooo Blue!
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We lost very important people this past year, who spent their entire lives fighting on political fronts for people of color, the LBGTQ, and a host of other important, vital issues most Americans see intrinsically as vital to their every day life existence. In my mind, nothing but a landslide vote in favor of the Biden/Harris ticket will do. I know it can be a close call, but every instinct i have tells me that this will be the most important election for generations to come.

I mailed my ballot in person at the post office. I signed up for electronic notice that my ballot has been counted (should know by end of week).

Keeping my fingers crossed that justice will be served and that the will of the people will show that TP is out and Biden/Harris will win back our country from the terrible reign of terror by current DC (GOP) admin.

Gooooo Blue!
Like you, my friend, I feel that this time is different. There are so many groups and super PACs that have organized to get the word out about how crooked, dishonest, corrupt TP is. It's just absolutely blatant now and 99.9% of reasonable, decent people with an ounce of morality are now aware of just how bad he is. He has been called a "malignant narcissist" and has shown himself to be just that. He is dangerous. His fear and hate mongering almost cost Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan her life.

Here in Texas, there are tons of folks voting in the early voting phase. Dear Wife and I voted early at our polling station the other day. I have, for my part, not seen many of these Texans sporting tRump gear, which is good. From what I'm hearing, so very many of them are sick of TP and feel like they were deceived into voting for him in the first place. They are angry. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if ol' boy loses Texas and the entire election.

Dear Wife has another theory. Due to TP's shenanigans and dirty dealings, he's going to be faced with a lot of legal problems the minute he steps out of office. Being the malignant narcissist that he is, Dear Wife thinks he'll either try to leave the country......or put a bullet in his head before he vacates the WH. One thing's for certain. When he steps out of that WH on 20 Jan 2021, he's going to be stepping out into a whole 'nuther fresh hell!!! We are both wringing our hands with glee at the thought of him being held to account for what he has done to this country. That turtle, "Moscow" Mitch McConnell, needs to go, too. Hopefully, Kentucky Democratic challenger Amy McGrath, a fellow US Marine, will kick his ass in the election. I know ol' Lindsay Graham is crapping his pants and he should be!!!! South Carolina seems to elect the worst, most racist, self serving old white men that they could dig up. Old Sen. Strom Thurmond, who was dragged in to the Senate chambers at nearly 100 years of age was always pontificating and condemning people of color and "immorality". Come to find out, the old geezer had quite a few illegitimate children running around. One was even biracial, as Ol' Strom had his way with a black woman who worked for his family. He sent money for her care until she was way into adulthood.......and did his best to cover it up. Yep, South Cackalacky (what we Georgians call South Carolina) definitely has had more than a few shitty people in their political system.

I can't wait for election night!!! I know right where I'll be.......in my cozy recliner with a tub of buttered popcorn, watching the righties twitch and flap.

I say "BRING IT".

**NOTE: On the other hand, we must also be very guarded about what TP does when he realizes that he has really lost. He might just trigger Armageddon, in an attempt to wreak revenge on this nation for rejecting and "de-throning" him!!!

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QUOTE=~ocean;1276792]on Thursday's debate each question asked to either Trump or Biden the other one's mic will be shut off so no interruptions TRUMP ~[/QUOTE]

Not sure if shutting mic is enough if Biden can still hear him across the stage. It's Biden that Trump wants to throw off his game.
Biden needs earplugs.
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Yes, it's great news that they are cutting off the mics but Trump will probably just shout into the room. At least he will look insane doing that, but Biden definitely needs to be prepared.
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I just got an image of TRUMP stomping his feet walking off the stage cause no one can hear him ~ lolol "Baby Donald" not so cute ~
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I just hope Biden points out every time Trump reaches for a "cough drop".
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I find it kind of amazing that this sort of rule actually needs to be put in place because we have a candidate who is unable to demonstrate any restraint whatsoever and apparently cannot be controlled any other way.

Is this really the best we can do as a country?
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I find it kind of amazing that this sort of rule actually needs to be put in place because we have a candidate who is unable to demonstrate any restraint whatsoever and apparently cannot be controlled any other way.

Is this really the best we can do as a country?
touche' touche' touche' ~ our country makes us all look like a country with no power ! Land of The Free and The Brave ? I know I'm brave enough to vote against "Donny Dolly Hands"
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