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Old 01-15-2019, 06:40 PM   #1
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Default Is Trump a Russian Asset?

The New York Times and Washington Post have dropped some major bombs about Trump being either an unwitting or intentional asset for Putin in his drive to regain the former Soviet Union's prominence on the world stage.
Trump has also been called a "useful idiot" to Putin, which is a phrase they use for anyone not Russian who is too stupid to resist buttering up by Putin.
There are so many stories about Trump's probable collusion, including:

The Kompromat Putin likely has on him (not just the pee tapes)
The FBI deciding to investigate him after he fired Comey and soon after hosted the Russian Ambassador and his pals in the Oval Office
Testimony from flipped associates like Flynn, Cohen and others
The $100 million+ (in cash) that Russians paid Trump for more than 100 Trump properties--which is money laundering
Lies about the existence of the proposed Trump Tower Moscow
Not doing anything about the election hack or Wikileaks
That meeting at Trump Tower with the Russians and most of Trump's key staff, where they all lied about the reason for meeting
The Steele dossier-- so far everything's proven to be true
The staggering number of his staff's meeting with Russians that they lied about to Congress
The Helsinki Press Conference where Trump sided with Putin and against the CIA, et. al.
Trump's insane stance on NATO and dissing our biggest European allies
Pulling out of Syria all of a sudden
And now the ridiculous shutdown, which is crippling our economy

Trump calls Mueller's investigation a hoax and a witch hunt, but there have been a whole lot of indictments and guilty pleas because of it.

What do you think? Is he a traitor?
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:10 PM   #2
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Yup. I sure do think Trump is a traitor. I'm old school about this topic. You DO NOT SELL OUT YOUR OWN COUNTRY!! What the actual FUCK is wrong with all those alleged patriots who still stand with that filthy POS?

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Old 01-16-2019, 04:32 AM   #3
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Indeed, Trump is a traitor, and screw that opinion (from Congress - long ago) that a sitting president can't be indicted. There is nothing in the Constitution that reads that a sitting president is immune from the Rule of Law.

Arrest the ass and try him for Treason. Grab him before he has a chance to pull us out of NATO. Of course, he's a Russian asset. A Russian asset, the Soviet Union wouldn't play us like Putin. Russia is a whole different entity than the USSR (pre and post Stalin, that is).
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:27 AM   #4
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Cool Betrayal of the Traitor

To be a traitor, a person usually will say - at one time or another - that they feel betrayed....

And, Trump has said, "that he feels 'betrayed' by his former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon who was highly critical of him and his family in a book published last week." Jan 12, 2018

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/wo...n-2481679.html

"In recent days, the President has complained about the negative coverage blanketing cable television and told confidantes he feels betrayed by the Saudis, who have presented shifting accounts about what happened to the journalist after he entered the Saudi consulate in Turkey three weeks ago to obtain a marriage document and never left." 10/23/2018

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...4am?li=AAggNb9

"White House aides say the president feels betrayed by the iconic American manufacturer's decision" - Harley-Davidson - "to move some production offshore to avoid becoming embroiled in Trump's trade war with Europe." June 27, 2018

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/dona...he-end-1873763

So, yeah, I think the man is treacherous, a traitor.

Another reason that I have to conclude that he is a traitor is that he has no empathy whatsoever. I have noticed that in people who have no empathy, that they have a treacherous streak. [I had a friend, so many years ago, while studying at university, who said that she could be "treacherous"; and yes, she lacked empathy - at that time. Curiously, after graduation, she had an interesting experience, where she experienced empathy for the first time, and the direction of her life changed dramatically afterwards.]

Personally, I have never felt "betrayed" by anyone. When younger, I did feel disappointed in a few people, but that feeling is long gone... Thank goodness for meditation.
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Yes. Pence is equally involved. The Founding Fathers never thought this was a possibility. How many constitutional amendments will it take to prevent this in the future?
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Yes.
And not just him.
I keep wondering how this is happening and how deeply compromised most (almost all) of the Republicans in power are for us to have gotten to this point.

And the shutdown. How does it make any sense? He allegedly wants to wall for safety, but most of the departments that are there to keep us safe, are either closed or working without pay. How long till something REALLY bad happens.
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I was thinking .... useful idiot... is another option. Not to suggest he was unaware of what he was (is) doing. Just that he was (is) too stupid to realize it was going to end badly and/or not go exactly as planned.
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Yes.
And not just him.
I keep wondering how this is happening and how deeply compromised most (almost all) of the Republicans in power are for us to have gotten to this point.

And the shutdown. How does it make any sense? He allegedly wants to wall for safety, but most of the departments that are there to keep us safe, are either closed or working without pay. How long till something REALLY bad happens.
I think the shutdown has zero to do with the so-called wall. I think the shutdown, now nearing a month in duration, was a directive issued to Trump by Putin in order to destabilize our economy and undo economic progress made by Obama, which carried over to Trump's regime. Trump couldn't care less about a wall, unless he was getting kickbacks from vendors. Now that concrete's out, his Mafia pals will lose interest.
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