Butch Attire & Fashion

[dykeumentary]

Thanks Kelt, for taking the time to write that out. It's really great when people wear clothes that fit well.

[Sun]

This company will custom tailor a suit, shirt, slacks, to your specifications.

They also have a fabric sample kit that you can order. Similar to Brooks Brothers quality but without the similar price tag.

Indochino

[Sun]

This bike jacket is purely fun. On a Harley or off:


Rumble leather

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by dykeumentary

Thanks Kelt, for taking the time to write that out. It's really great when people wear clothes that fit well.

Yes, nothing bothers more than when the shoulder seams do not sit on the top of the shoulder and instead lands past the top of the shoulder moving down the arm. For some reason people never pay attention to this. My clothing pet peeve and something I watch for when buying clothes.

As Gemme said, I am pretty good at holding up a garment to see whether it will "hang right" (as I tend to describe it for some reason). I can fortunately buy off the rack pretty damn easily and don't have to get anything tailored.

"Hanging right" relates to how the neck of the shirt looks, as it can tell me how the entire shirt will look on my frame. If the neck appears to look ok (not too large on both casual and ress shirts), I will typically try the shirt on, just to make sure that it fits across my chest in the way that I deem flattering (i.e. it is not tight against my chest/my chest is not very visible).

Calvin Klein is where I tend to go for all my dress/work clothes. The shirts fit good for my neck, shoulder seam, and arm length. There is a Calvin Klein outlet near the beach where we frequent in the summer, so I just shop there. I also still have about 7 dress shirts that are 8 years old that still looks great from Express. They are perfect in arm length, also.

In terms of dress pants, I can buy right off the rack as well, due to having a more typical male shape. Of course, some styles of dress pants fit better than others, however.

When it comes to casual clothes, I buy various brands. Jeans, I have no problem as long as I get the right style. For cargo shorts, it seems as though they are now making them longer. However, I have found at some places (Old Navy, specifically), you have a choice of longer or shorter cargo shorts. I get the shorter because the longer are too long (and look dumb)since I am only 5'8". I can see how it would be even harder for shorter females who wear men's shorts. I tend to choose short length based on where it falls against my leg...there is a certain range that I believe is most attractive and anything below that just looks dumb/unattractive on me.

No doubt a tuck here and there by a tailor could improve the fit of my clothes, but honestly, that is too much hassle for me for everyday wear. For casual clothing I wouldn't even consider it...I would just pass on the item!

One more thing...dressing rooms...fortunately for the places I buy both my dress and casual clothes (outlets), they have gender neutral dressing rooms. If I was in a regular department store, I would probably find myself bringing a lot more stuff home to try!

Nice discussion! Thanks for the information Kelt.

[princessbelle]

Thank you Kelt!!!!! We sorta did do some of this already, especially the length from the shoulder seam to the bottom of the shirt. But i didn't think about the arm length and stuff. I'll update my list.

My mom sews so it is comforting that she can take a pair of Bully's sweat pants, for instance, and hem them up. It's hard to find Bully's exact inseam in the men's department. I was shocked to find that the men's department doesn't have a petite department. That's just dumb.

The shape or style is critical and i've learned you have to "allow room" if it is buttoned up the front.

Like Gemme said, you get better at it the more you do it. The last couple of things i've bought for her actually fit.

Trial and error. Just like anything, practice makes perfect.

Thanks for allowing those of us who buy clothes for our butches, to chime in.

I appreciate it!!!!

[Sun]

I like these

Stacy Adams - Gallant

[Sun]

and these...

Johnston & Murphy Cap Lace Up

and these

Cole Haan - Air Kilgore Bit

and I need these


Cole Haan Air Giovanni Penny

[Medusa]

Hey Belle!

I buy clothes for my Butch!

Jack is mostly able to wear clothing right off the rack with the occasional cuff hem and such for length. She wears men's clothes exclusively.

I will say that fit is not exclusive to gender. People of every gender have to be mindful of body shape. I've seen people of all genders wear things that may not be as suited to their body shape, especially if they are pear-shaped, have a very long torso, very short legs, etc.

Jack is long and lean, but I don't consider (and neither does she) her shape to be "typically male". She's a woman and her body is just long and lean.

We've had very good luck with certain brands fitting her body shape better than others. One of the coolest things is that we found that the "George" brand from Wal-Mart actually makes a nice suit pant that fits her almost perfectly. Other brands that we've found that fit her well are Calvin Klein and Hugo Boss. I think these brands have a lot of options with very slim cuts and these seem to suit her shape very well!

WEE!

[Sun]

Love

Mezlan Bravo

Need these


Harley Davidson Ranger

[BullDog]

I hate to shop, so I am lucky that Belle does.
My body type is not easy to shop for, no matter what department.

[dykeumentary]

I love fashion! I even go over to Manhattan during Fashion Week to "outfit watch" with my September Vogue, so this thread is fun.

I work in construction, so during the week my clothes are covered in caulk, glue, paint, schmutz and dreck of various types. Also, I play sports, where loose-fitting clothes with big numbers on the back are required. So when I go out on weekends, I like to wear nice things that fit and look good.

Sometimes when I see other butches at clubs, I get sad/confused. From what they are wearing, I wonder if they are trying to give the impression "Hey, I don't care!" or if they are trying to "dress up" like a manual laborer. I have a problem with both those scenarios: I think it is important to "care". Also, I resent when my livelihood is fetishized/sexualized in that way.

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by Medusa

Hey Belle!

I buy clothes for my Butch!

Jack is mostly able to wear clothing right off the rack with the occasional cuff hem and such for length. She wears men's clothes exclusively.

I will say that fit is not exclusive to gender. People of every gender have to be mindful of body shape. I've seen people of all genders wear things that may not be as suited to their body shape, especially if they are pear-shaped, have a very long torso, very short legs, etc.

Jack is long and lean, but I don't consider (and neither does she) her shape to be "typically male". She's a woman and her body is just long and lean.

We've had very good luck with certain brands fitting her body shape better than others. One of the coolest things is that we found that the "George" brand from Wal-Mart actually makes a nice suit pant that fits her almost perfectly. Other brands that we've found that fit her well are Calvin Klein and Hugo Boss. I think these brands have a lot of options with very slim cuts and these seem to suit her shape very well!

WEE!

Great!!! I did buy Bully a Calvin Klein polo shirt a few months back that fit perfectly. I'll have to check out the other ones you listed.

I agree of course that everyone has "fit" issues. No matter the gender, that's a given. Since i'm new to buying men's clothes for Bully, there are certainly different challenges than what i have been used to. They are made to fit men. Someone should come out with a butch line of clothes, if they haven't already. Lengths, including arm length, shoulder width, tightness around the chest, etc has been a real learning experience for me.

I will definitely check out those brands you listed. As a matter of fact today is a shopping day!! Hooray!!!

Thanks for the tip!!!

[macele]

Originally Posted by princessbelle

Great!!! I did buy Bully a Calvin Klein polo shirt a few months back that fit perfectly. I'll have to check out the other ones you listed.

I agree of course that everyone has "fit" issues. No matter the gender, that's a given. Since i'm new to buying men's clothes for Bully, there are certainly different challenges than what i have been used to. They are made to fit men. Someone should come out with a butch line of clothes, if they haven't already. Lengths, including arm length, shoulder width, tightness around the chest, etc has been a real learning experience for me.

I will definitely check out those brands you listed. As a matter of fact today is a shopping day!! Hooray!!!

Thanks for the tip!!!

i've wanted for a long time to have my own line of butch clothing. and have the coolest t shirts, like, "i love the slope of a curve". you know, reba mcentire has her own clothes. rob kardashian has his own sock line. socks! there's something else that doesn't always fit me right.

[Sun]

I really like this



Paired with a great pair of Leather Levi's

[ruffryder]

I want one of these jacket vests preferably with a zip on hood.

Where can I get one , good priced?

[Sun]

Originally Posted by ruffryder

I want one of these jacket vests preferably with a zip on hood.

Where can I get one , good priced?

Hey ruff,

Check the company website to see where they sell their clothing.

Also check Ebay, a lot of retailers sell new clothing through there.

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by princessbelle

Great!!! I did buy Bully a Calvin Klein polo shirt a few months back that fit perfectly. I'll have to check out the other ones you listed.

I agree of course that everyone has "fit" issues. No matter the gender, that's a given. Since i'm new to buying men's clothes for Bully, there are certainly different challenges than what i have been used to. They are made to fit men. Someone should come out with a butch line of clothes, if they haven't already. Lengths, including arm length, shoulder width, tightness around the chest, etc has been a real learning experience for me.

I will definitely check out those brands you listed. As a matter of fact today is a shopping day!! Hooray!!!

Thanks for the tip!!!

That is something I alluded to earlier, but didn't say clearly. I have found that if one item of a certain brand fits me, other items might, too. Like I said earlier, Calvin Klein works for my dress clothes. Sleeve length is the biggest barrier for me when it comes to dress clothes and Calvin Klein fits the bill.

I like things to be really simple. I like to get in and get out. I find a brand or two that fits my build and then can feel confident in buying. No doubt this isn't for sure in all cases, but it is something to stick in the back of your mind after finding something that works for you. Since the Calvin Klein polo shirt fit Bully so well, belle, you may want to not only go back to Calvin Klein when you need another polo shirt, but consider if the rest of the clothing line would fit her well, too.

ETA: I saw one or two butch clothing lines on the web before. One, was custom made clothing...ummmm, no. The other had only a handle of pieces, none of which I was attracted to. I think we are still waiting...

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by Sun

I like these

Stacy Adams - Gallant

I like these a lot. I think it is difficult to find an attractive brown for belts and shoes, and I like this one.

In terms of shape I love them as well, but they are a bit long. They would make my feet appear to big. I am not sure how to make this make sense...one can have a similar style of shoe (and I do), but it not look as elongated as this. The elongation is what does not look attractive on me.

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

That is something I alluded to earlier, but didn't say clearly. I have found that if one item of a certain brand fits me, other items might, too. Like I said earlier, Calvin Klein works for my dress clothes. Sleeve length is the biggest barrier for me when it comes to dress clothes and Calvin Klein fits the bill.

I like things to be really simple. I like to get in and get out. I find a brand or two that fits my build and then can feel confident in buying. No doubt this isn't for sure in all cases, but it is something to stick in the back of your mind after finding something that works for you. Since the Calvin Klein polo shirt fit Bully so well, belle, you may want to not only go back to Calvin Klein when you need another polo shirt, but consider if the rest of the clothing line would fit her well, too.

ETA: I saw one or two butch clothing lines on the web before. One, was custom made clothing...ummmm, no. The other had only a handle of pieces, none of which I was attracted to. I think we are still waiting...

Well we could start one (Butch/TG/FtM clothing line). All of us!!! Like a family business. I started knitting tonight and i've learned how to do a cast stitch. Heck i'm almost a pro.

I'll make the sweaters.

Honestly, it ain't a bad idea. We could get that island Medusa wants and all live together.

Happily ever after.

[clay]

Originally Posted by princessbelle

No wonder i adore you!!! Works even better with one of her white dress shirts and no bi-panty involvement.



Wonderful!!!!! I look forward to seeing it!!!!

I am getting way better. I know to look for shorter shirts, shorter shorts, even though they are long when she wears them. No stripes. And the best shirts i've found are polo ...those rock!!!! And are hot!!!!

Did i mention they are hot?

hey belle..I love Polo shirts..and have several in solid colors...NO stripes for me either. I pair mine with either jeans (black or blue) and cargo shorts. I like mine in shorter length as well. I am 5'9" and I do not like them to be mid calf..lol
I LURVE this thread.....thanks to all of you..I lurk here..often...