Butch Femme Planet  

Go Back   Butch Femme Planet > LIFE > Hobbies, Crafts, Interests

Hobbies, Crafts, Interests Do you like to knit? Throw pottery? Go fishing? Camping? Have Pets? Make jewelry? Tell us about it here!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-01-2017, 04:24 PM   #6381
Gemme
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Queer Stone Femme Girl of the Unicorn Variety
Preferred Pronoun?:
She, as in 'She's a GEM'
 
Gemme's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The roads are narrow here
Posts: 36,585
Thanks: 182,168
Thanked 108,771 Times in 25,657 Posts
Rep Power: 21474887
Gemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Has anyone heard anything from Soft? I've reached out with no response.

I was holding the projects in case something was on its way but it looks like there's nothing else coming in. You should have the projects by the end of next week.

If there's a project someone would like to introduce, now might be a good time.
__________________


I'm misunderestimated.
Gemme is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Gemme For This Useful Post:
Old 07-07-2017, 02:19 PM   #6382
purepisces
Member

How Do You Identify?:
Femme
Preferred Pronoun?:
She, her
Relationship Status:
Just a girl in love with the world
 
purepisces's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Right here, right now
Posts: 604
Thanks: 4,477
Thanked 1,607 Times in 491 Posts
Rep Power: 9710904
purepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemme View Post
Has anyone heard anything from Soft? I've reached out with no response.

I was holding the projects in case something was on its way but it looks like there's nothing else coming in. You should have the projects by the end of next week.

If there's a project someone would like to introduce, now might be a good time.
Sure, I come back and now no one wants to do a project! 😜
__________________
Give thanks for what you are now, and keep fighting for what you want to be tomorrow. ~Fernanda Miramontes-Landeros
purepisces is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to purepisces For This Useful Post:
Old 07-07-2017, 03:15 PM   #6383
homoe
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Butch
Relationship Status:
.....
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle
Posts: 38,565
Thanks: 20,811
Thanked 33,586 Times in 14,918 Posts
Rep Power: 21474889
homoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by purepisces View Post
Sure, I come back and now no one wants to do a project! 😜
Depending on the project I might be interested
homoe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to homoe For This Useful Post:
Old 07-07-2017, 03:38 PM   #6384
Lyte
Senior Member

How Do You Identify?:
Butch
Preferred Pronoun?:
Meh... I'm not very particular about this.
Relationship Status:
Single
 
Lyte's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: The south... bleh!
Posts: 1,744
Thanks: 5,316
Thanked 5,113 Times in 1,504 Posts
Rep Power: 21474845
Lyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST Reputation
Default

I'm game for another project too! I would request that we allow for more time to complete them ... depending on their complexity.
Lyte is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Lyte For This Useful Post:
Old 07-07-2017, 05:18 PM   #6385
Gemme
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Queer Stone Femme Girl of the Unicorn Variety
Preferred Pronoun?:
She, as in 'She's a GEM'
 
Gemme's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The roads are narrow here
Posts: 36,585
Thanks: 182,168
Thanked 108,771 Times in 25,657 Posts
Rep Power: 21474887
Gemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by purepisces View Post
Sure, I come back and now no one wants to do a project! 😜
Don't you dare go hide again!



For those who participated in this round, if you don't receive your package (2 for you, nyc) by tomorrow night, please let me know. I have tracking on everything.

For those interested in another project, do you have any ideas? I'm still really digging the scavenger hunt idea that Besame had earlier. For those like homoe, who haven't participated before, what type of project would interest you?
__________________


I'm misunderestimated.
Gemme is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Gemme For This Useful Post:
Old 07-07-2017, 06:41 PM   #6386
homoe
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Butch
Relationship Status:
.....
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle
Posts: 38,565
Thanks: 20,811
Thanked 33,586 Times in 14,918 Posts
Rep Power: 21474889
homoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Sorry, I have no ideas for a project, but if I see something that interests me I'll surely speak up about it
homoe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to homoe For This Useful Post:
Old 07-07-2017, 06:52 PM   #6387
nanners
Member

How Do You Identify?:
her femme
Preferred Pronoun?:
girl
Relationship Status:
Blissfully married to the love of my life.
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: MS
Posts: 1,126
Thanks: 9,367
Thanked 4,840 Times in 1,066 Posts
Rep Power: 21474852
nanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputationnanners Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Matchboxes?

ATC's (Artist Trading Cards)?

Anyone interested in wrangling?

I'm ready for a project, but not for wrangling.
nanners is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to nanners For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 07:06 AM   #6388
Gemme
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Queer Stone Femme Girl of the Unicorn Variety
Preferred Pronoun?:
She, as in 'She's a GEM'
 
Gemme's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The roads are narrow here
Posts: 36,585
Thanks: 182,168
Thanked 108,771 Times in 25,657 Posts
Rep Power: 21474887
Gemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nanners View Post
Matchboxes?

ATC's (Artist Trading Cards)?

Anyone interested in wrangling?

I'm ready for a project, but not for wrangling.
There's always room for an ATC round!

I'd be up for wrangling but since I just finished one....we never really decided definitively on that point but usually we take turns, sooo.....

*shrug*
__________________


I'm misunderestimated.
Gemme is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Gemme For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 08:07 AM   #6389
clay
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Butch (Silver Fox) Dom Daddi
Preferred Pronoun?:
50 Shades of Clay Darker & Deeper
Relationship Status:
married to my forever
 
clay's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2011
Location: salt air & sandy beaches
Posts: 13,096
Thanks: 96,036
Thanked 31,683 Times in 7,714 Posts
Rep Power: 21474862
clay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputation
Member Photo Albums
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemme View Post
There's always room for an ATC round!

I'd be up for wrangling but since I just finished one....we never really decided definitively on that point but usually we take turns, sooo.....

*shrug*
My thoughts were perhaps a post secret round OR ATC's....

I am fine with you wrangling again....
__________________
To find someone who will love you for no reason, and to shower that person with reasons, that is the ultimate happiness. ~Robert Brault
clay is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to clay For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 04:11 PM   #6390
Gemme
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Queer Stone Femme Girl of the Unicorn Variety
Preferred Pronoun?:
She, as in 'She's a GEM'
 
Gemme's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The roads are narrow here
Posts: 36,585
Thanks: 182,168
Thanked 108,771 Times in 25,657 Posts
Rep Power: 21474887
Gemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by clay View Post
My thoughts were perhaps a post secret round OR ATC's....

I am fine with you wrangling again....
I do love our Post Secret rounds too!
__________________


I'm misunderestimated.
Gemme is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Gemme For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 04:18 PM   #6391
homoe
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Butch
Relationship Status:
.....
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle
Posts: 38,565
Thanks: 20,811
Thanked 33,586 Times in 14,918 Posts
Rep Power: 21474889
homoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemme View Post
I do love our Post Secret rounds too!
May I inquire what a Post Secret Round is?

I assume it's anonymous, but you know what they say when you assume!
homoe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to homoe For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 04:23 PM   #6392
clay
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Butch (Silver Fox) Dom Daddi
Preferred Pronoun?:
50 Shades of Clay Darker & Deeper
Relationship Status:
married to my forever
 
clay's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2011
Location: salt air & sandy beaches
Posts: 13,096
Thanks: 96,036
Thanked 31,683 Times in 7,714 Posts
Rep Power: 21474862
clay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputation
Member Photo Albums
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by homoe View Post
May I inquire what a Post Secret Round is?

I assume it's anonymous, but you know what they say when you assume!
hey homoe...if you go to postsecrets.com you can see some examples.....new ones are posted every Sunday I believe.

Wrangler would determine the "theme" of the secrets...and how many secrets....one can be anonymous and/or you can sign the secret...usually are written on a postcard....again wrangler will determine parameters of these..... Hope this helps...
__________________
To find someone who will love you for no reason, and to shower that person with reasons, that is the ultimate happiness. ~Robert Brault
clay is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to clay For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 05:31 PM   #6393
purepisces
Member

How Do You Identify?:
Femme
Preferred Pronoun?:
She, her
Relationship Status:
Just a girl in love with the world
 
purepisces's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Right here, right now
Posts: 604
Thanks: 4,477
Thanked 1,607 Times in 491 Posts
Rep Power: 9710904
purepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputationpurepisces Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nanners View Post
Matchboxes?

ATC's (Artist Trading Cards)?

Anyone interested in wrangling?

I'm ready for a project, but not for wrangling.
ATC's are always fun! And, I'd love to hear more about the scavenger project. Sounds intriguing.
__________________
Give thanks for what you are now, and keep fighting for what you want to be tomorrow. ~Fernanda Miramontes-Landeros
purepisces is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to purepisces For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 05:37 PM   #6394
homoe
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Butch
Relationship Status:
.....
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle
Posts: 38,565
Thanks: 20,811
Thanked 33,586 Times in 14,918 Posts
Rep Power: 21474889
homoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by purepisces View Post
ATC's are always fun! And, I'd love to hear more about the scavenger project. Sounds intriguing.
Yes, I too would like more info on the scavenger hunt!
homoe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to homoe For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 06:35 PM   #6395
Gemme
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Queer Stone Femme Girl of the Unicorn Variety
Preferred Pronoun?:
She, as in 'She's a GEM'
 
Gemme's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The roads are narrow here
Posts: 36,585
Thanks: 182,168
Thanked 108,771 Times in 25,657 Posts
Rep Power: 21474887
Gemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by purepisces View Post
ATC's are always fun! And, I'd love to hear more about the scavenger project. Sounds intriguing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by homoe View Post
Yes, I too would like more info on the scavenger hunt!
Cool beans!

The scavenger hunt would go something along these lines...participants would be given a list of things to use in their projects but they have to find them on their own end. An example would be: use washi tape, the color blue, yarn or thread, a stamped image and marker. That way, each participant gathers their own versions of those supplies, in addition to whatever else they want to use, and as long as those particular items are in every piece, you are good to go. There may or may not be a 'theme' to use as a guideline.
__________________


I'm misunderestimated.
Gemme is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Gemme For This Useful Post:
Old 07-08-2017, 09:36 PM   #6396
clay
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Butch (Silver Fox) Dom Daddi
Preferred Pronoun?:
50 Shades of Clay Darker & Deeper
Relationship Status:
married to my forever
 
clay's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2011
Location: salt air & sandy beaches
Posts: 13,096
Thanks: 96,036
Thanked 31,683 Times in 7,714 Posts
Rep Power: 21474862
clay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputationclay Has the BEST Reputation
Member Photo Albums
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemme View Post
Cool beans!

The scavenger hunt would go something along these lines...participants would be given a list of things to use in their projects but they have to find them on their own end. An example would be: use washi tape, the color blue, yarn or thread, a stamped image and marker. That way, each participant gathers their own versions of those supplies, in addition to whatever else they want to use, and as long as those particular items are in every piece, you are good to go. There may or may not be a 'theme' to use as a guideline.
I would love to join the scavenger hunt! I have missed these projects very much!
__________________
To find someone who will love you for no reason, and to shower that person with reasons, that is the ultimate happiness. ~Robert Brault
clay is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to clay For This Useful Post:
Old 07-09-2017, 07:43 AM   #6397
Gemme
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Queer Stone Femme Girl of the Unicorn Variety
Preferred Pronoun?:
She, as in 'She's a GEM'
 
Gemme's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The roads are narrow here
Posts: 36,585
Thanks: 182,168
Thanked 108,771 Times in 25,657 Posts
Rep Power: 21474887
Gemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST ReputationGemme Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by clay View Post
I would love to join the scavenger hunt! I have missed these projects very much!
If this seems like something the majority would like to do, that's great. I think it would be appropriate to ask Besame if she'd like to wrangle as the concept was initially hers. If she doesn't want to right now or is still visiting with her family, then I'd be happy to wrangle the project. I've got time and, thanks to some deep cleaning, a LOT more space to spread the projects out and package them up.

More time could certainly be given, as I think that was something Lyte mentioned. Plus there's nothing going out to the participants so once the scavenger list is posted and everyone is signed up, then folks can start right away on their master pieces.

Another option is having suggestions from participants for what they'd like to see on the scavenger list. It couldn't get out of control with 20 things and I think the items should remain as generic as possible to give the most leeway for everyone when they put things together. Maybe a max of 10 things?
__________________


I'm misunderestimated.
Gemme is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Gemme For This Useful Post:
Old 07-09-2017, 08:43 AM   #6398
Lyte
Senior Member

How Do You Identify?:
Butch
Preferred Pronoun?:
Meh... I'm not very particular about this.
Relationship Status:
Single
 
Lyte's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: The south... bleh!
Posts: 1,744
Thanks: 5,316
Thanked 5,113 Times in 1,504 Posts
Rep Power: 21474845
Lyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST ReputationLyte Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Scavenger hunt... interesting! What's then done with the 10 things that are hunted?
Lyte is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Lyte For This Useful Post:
Old 07-09-2017, 10:40 AM   #6399
Bèsame*
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Femm
Preferred Pronoun?:
She
Relationship Status:
☀️☀️☀️
 
Bèsame*'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Closer to the waves
Posts: 14,772
Thanks: 28,402
Thanked 39,527 Times in 10,206 Posts
Rep Power: 21474862
Bèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST ReputationBèsame* Has the BEST Reputation
Default

hello....

The scavenger hunt that I had in mind, to use non-crafty things that could be easily found....newsprint, gum wrapper..etc.

That was my idea then. I'm not visiting family, I have been tied up in inventory prep and that's over!!! Yay!
__________________
kisses

A kiss is a whisper in your mouth.
Can I borrow a kiss? I promise to give it back.
Bèsame* is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Bèsame* For This Useful Post:
Old 07-09-2017, 11:07 AM   #6400
homoe
Practically Lives Here

How Do You Identify?:
Butch
Relationship Status:
.....
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle
Posts: 38,565
Thanks: 20,811
Thanked 33,586 Times in 14,918 Posts
Rep Power: 21474889
homoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputationhomoe Has the BEST Reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyte View Post
Scavenger hunt... interesting! What's then done with the 10 things that are hunted?
I'm guessing we make something or other...........
homoe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to homoe For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
artists, creative types


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:40 PM.


ButchFemmePlanet.com
All information copyright of BFP 2018