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Old 01-06-2011, 12:44 AM   #41
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When you dropped the carbs did you increase your essential fats?

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I was wondering if you could tell me (if you remember) if you got headaches when you first cut the carbs way down? And if so, how long they lasted?

I started on January 1st, and the only bad carb I've allowed myself is Triscuits (I can't help it, they are my favourite thing on the planet - but I'm limiting myself to 6 of them in total a day) and starting yesterday I've gotten some really blinding headaches.

I'm pretty sure that cutting out the sugars is where the headaches are coming from (since I'm not sick, stressed, tired, or injured in any way). Are they going to stop soon?
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When you dropped the carbs did you increase your essential fats?
I've been snacking on black olives (which I do anyway, because I love them) and walnuts (although I am not supposed to eat nuts because of some medical thing I don't want to tell you about). So...maybe? But possibly not enough.

I haven't really been eating any fruit, so I'm wondering if that's part of my issue. I'm about ready to take on the 6 kiwi that are in my fridge to see if that helps.
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Yeah if not eating carbs you do not want to eat much fruit and only certain types really when you do.

I personally did not get any headaches, my roommate did but they upped their intake of protein and essential oils and the headaches stopped.

For me I know I am not getting enough protein/essential oils when I start craving carbs/sweets.

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I've been snacking on black olives (which I do anyway, because I love them) and walnuts (although I am not supposed to eat nuts because of some medical thing I don't want to tell you about). So...maybe? But possibly not enough.

I haven't really been eating any fruit, so I'm wondering if that's part of my issue. I'm about ready to take on the 6 kiwi that are in my fridge to see if that helps.
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Yeah if not eating carbs you do not want to eat much fruit and only certain types really when you do.

I personally did not get any headaches, my roommate did but they upped their intake of protein and essential oils and the headaches stopped.

For me I know I am not getting enough protein/essential oils when I start craving carbs/sweets.
I'm thinking for myself I probably should have eased into it instead of just jumping in. Before January 1st I was drinking energy drinks at work (and you KNOW what is in those fuckers!) so to totally cut out everything including the stuff that mother nature made has probably put my body into some sort of shock.

Maybe I should eat a piece of fruit every day until my body stops throwing tantrums because I won't buy Rockstar? (Not bananas, though. Those are the devil.)
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Yeah or else just make sure you are getting 30 or 40 carbs a day for a while before dropping further down. Just remember to eat the essential fats because they are what replaces the carbs for this type of eating plan.

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I'm thinking for myself I probably should have eased into it instead of just jumping in. Before January 1st I was drinking energy drinks at work (and you KNOW what is in those fuckers!) so to totally cut out everything including the stuff that mother nature made has probably put my body into some sort of shock.

Maybe I should eat a piece of fruit every day until my body stops throwing tantrums because I won't buy Rockstar? (Not bananas, though. Those are the devil.)
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I'm thinking for myself I probably should have eased into it instead of just jumping in. Before January 1st I was drinking energy drinks at work (and you KNOW what is in those fuckers!) so to totally cut out everything including the stuff that mother nature made has probably put my body into some sort of shock.

Maybe I should eat a piece of fruit every day until my body stops throwing tantrums because I won't buy Rockstar? (Not bananas, though. Those are the devil.)
Many energy drinks are high in caffeine, including Rockstar. That could also be part of the problem. Caffeine withdrawal can cause ugly and/or chronic headaches.
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Thanks for the recipe, Jess. I noticed there is no flour in the recipe. Is this correct?

I made Peanutbutter Cookies last month with Soy Flour substituted for the wheat flour in my family recipe. I also added some flax meal to add a bit more fiber and further reduce the net carbs .

Soy flour has 1/3 (or less) the carbs of wheat flour plus more fiber. It also has protien, which is absent in wheat flour. I don't know why bakeries don't make (100%) Soy Flour baked goods; they'd make a fortune.
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Lo Carb Peanut Butter Cookies

I have been making these for years, not knowing when I first started baking them that they are lo carb. I use only organic peanut butter. The ones that just have roasted peanuts on the ingredient list. The ones with sugar and other stuff in them, are not lo carb and the texture of the cookies will be very crumbly and they will fall apart.

  • 2 cups peanut butter
  • 1/2 cup raw sugar
  • 2 eggs
  • 1 teaspoon baking soda
  • 1 pinch salt
  • 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
Note: These cookies do like to spread out a bit while baking, so leave space between each cookie. Also for even lower carbs, exchange the sugar with a sugar substitute of your choice.
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Many energy drinks are high in caffeine, including Rockstar. That could also be part of the problem. Caffeine withdrawal can cause ugly and/or chronic headaches.
I'm drinking tonnes of coffee still. I have no intention of giving -that- particular vice up...so I really don't think I'm having caffeine withdrawl. Haha, unless I'm so far gone that 6+ cups of coffee a day isn't good enough for me.

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Good to find this thread, I am doing basically a paleo routine and really enjoying how I feel on it. Sticking to an all organic macronutrient ratio of 20% protein, 70% fats (half mono, half saturated), and 10% carbs from high water content sources.

Enjoying reading how other folks are taking this on.
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Going to make this tonight! Sounds yummy!

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Thanks for starting this thread I'm a big fan of high protein/low carb eating.

I made this once when I was doing the Atkins thing and it was delicious!! I found this recipe online it might be different from the actual atkins one. The Peanut Butter Coconut Sauce turns out delicious.

# 1/2 cup creamy peanut butter
# 1 cup coconut milk
# 2 tablespoons fresh lime juice
# 2 tablespoons soy sauce
# 1 1/2 tablespoons dark brown sugar
# 1 teaspoon ground ginger
# 2 garlic cloves, chopped
# 1/2 teaspoon red pepper flakes
# 2 lbs chicken cutlets
# 30 wooden skewers, soaked for 30 mins



1. 1 mix first 8 ingredients, remove 3/4 and refrigerate.
2. 2 cut chicken into strips and marinate in remaining sauce for 1 hour.
3. 3 heat broiler, thread strips onto skewers and broil about 6 minutes.
4. 4 bring refrigerated sauce to room temp and use as a dip for the chicken.
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Am a total coffee nut... but I keep it to no more than three cups in the morning... (OK, the third is really a grande from Starbucks or our local Persian coffee place... YUM!)

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Hey Jesse (and other people)

I was wondering if you could tell me (if you remember) if you got headaches when you first cut the carbs way down? And if so, how long they lasted?

I started on January 1st, and the only bad carb I've allowed myself is Triscuits (I can't help it, they are my favourite thing on the planet - but I'm limiting myself to 6 of them in total a day) and starting yesterday I've gotten some really blinding headaches.

I'm pretty sure that cutting out the sugars is where the headaches are coming from (since I'm not sick, stressed, tired, or injured in any way). Are they going to stop soon?
When I hop back on low carbs, I always have headaches the first 3-4 days. I find that increasing my water intake seems to help ramp them down.

I still consume vast amount of coffee (usually accompanied by nicotine) and don't likely see that changing.

Best of luck to you. You might want to try an OTC pain med taken with a full glass of water and backed with a cup of coffee. The caffiene seems to "jump start" the meds for me (or I just use Execdrine Migraine which has caffiene in it).
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It was delicious. I hope you enjoy it.
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I have been low-carbing for years (on and off) and always just feel so much better when I am not elbow deep in a bag of Doritos.

For the days I need a sweet, I use the following recipe:

1/2 c. whole milk ricotta cheese
1 pkt Splenda
1 TBS vanilla extract

Whip it all in a bowl and its almost like pudding.

I've also used other extract flavors - almond, orange, coconut.

Here is a link to the nutritional value of the ricotta:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...-products/35/2

I have found that website to be a godsend when looking for nutritional value information.
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When I hop back on low carbs, I always have headaches the first 3-4 days. I find that increasing my water intake seems to help ramp them down.

I still consume vast amount of coffee (usually accompanied by nicotine) and don't likely see that changing.

Best of luck to you. You might want to try an OTC pain med taken with a full glass of water and backed with a cup of coffee. The caffiene seems to "jump start" the meds for me (or I just use Execdrine Migraine which has caffiene in it).
Thanks, Christie

So I found out that the headaches were TOTALLY sugar withdrawl. I ate two Kiwi shortly after posting last night and the headache went away.

Mind you, it came back at 4am.

I'm surprised that I'm having so much difficulty with this, to be honest. I have never been much of a starch eater to begin with (I don't eat pasta because it gives me a stomache ache, I hate potato, I don't keep bread in the house, and I only ate rice once a week). I guess between the energy drinks, and the fruit (I always ate a LOT of fruit) there was a lot of sugar going into my body.

Mmmm, fruit.
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Wheat flour has protein in it. Soy flour has more protein than wheat flour. Wheat flour has gluten. Soy flour has no gluten.

A couple of links:

wheat flour http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_flour

soy flour http://www.soyfoods.com/soyfoodsdesc.../soyflour.html


Don't forget your veggies and fruits.

I generally eat higher protein and less carbs. I do love potatoes.
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It's been awhile since I have posted around these parts. I just recently found an amazing new soda that has stevia in it and wanted to share in case no one has seen it.

http://www.zevia.com/index.html

ZEVIA Cola

Made with hints of citrus and pure kola nut, ZEVIA Cola is a crisp and refreshing beverage perfect for anytime of the day or night.
0 calories, net carbs and sugars. Very low in sodium.

Ingredients Include:

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Correct, no flour in these and I have no problems with them falling apart unless I use a cheaper PB.

I for one do not use soy flour due to the estrogen properties. If I need flour, I use an almond flour, but find that I rarely if ever actually need it for anything. Sometimes, I will add flax meal to these as well as other baked goods.

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Thanks for the recipe, Jess. I noticed there is no flour in the recipe. Is this correct?

I made Peanutbutter Cookies last month with Soy Flour substituted for the wheat flour in my family recipe. I also added some flax meal to add a bit more fiber and further reduce the net carbs .

Soy flour has 1/3 (or less) the carbs of wheat flour plus more fiber. It also has protien, which is absent in wheat flour. I don't know why bakeries don't make (100%) Soy Flour baked goods; they'd make a fortune.
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Hi Kelt,

I am mostly sticking to an eating plan consisting of 20-30 complex carbs daily, 30 protein and 40-50 essential fats. My carbs come mostly from raw asparagus and spinach, cauliflower etc. Sometimes I skim a little and eat some healthy carb pasta or have a slice of lo carb bread, but that is actually not very often anymore. With protein I aim for the high purine meats and now eat only organic dark meat as well. I eat fruit only on rare occasions now due to the high sugar in it. My goal is to lower my carbs to 10% daily.

I find I have much more energy eating this way, and am also losing inches steadily. I also do not feel lethargic after eating a big meal like I did when eating carbs.

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Good to find this thread, I am doing basically a paleo routine and really enjoying how I feel on it. Sticking to an all organic macronutrient ratio of 20% protein, 70% fats (half mono, half saturated), and 10% carbs from high water content sources.

Enjoying reading how other folks are taking this on.
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