OFOS Butches & Femmes

[Linus]

Originally Posted by WicketWWarrick

I call myself old school because I honor and respect the butches and femmes who paved the way for us to be like we are. I value our history. I value chivalry, being a gentleman (or gentlewoman/gentleperson). Manners, respect, loyalty - these are some of the things I strive to exude as a partner. I need to run so will probably add more later, but this is at least a start.

-Wicket

Couldn't have said it better. As a trans brother of mine put it -- I am a man of integrity.

[Rogue]

Just like WickedWarrick said.. I, too, respect those who have paved the way for us, I respect and value not only our history, but our way of life, our way of interacting, the dynamics we share, and the love and respect amongst us.
With that said..
I call myself old fashioned/old school because that is the dynamics of our love, our relationship, and our way of life.. hell you could say that I'm a modern day June Cleaver with a twist!

Rogue

[Jet]

I was thinking how much OFOS comes off as a train of thinking or a set of rules. I don't know if that applies to everyone who considers themselves OFOS. I know it doesn't for me. Although I'm self-described as OFOS. Anyway, I hope this thread will grow with personal stories and experiences or just to bond online with like-minded folks.,

[LieslKate]

*holds up a fresh off the press copy of "The OFOS Rules" *

[LieslKate]

This NEEDS bumping...

[Canela]

I have a question--

In your opinion, do Old Fashioned/Old School and Stone go hand in hand?

Just wondering what interpretations there might be...

[OS Butch]

Originally Posted by HeartBreak Kid

Oh how I love and adore my OFOS Butches...without u all I am only half my potential. *Sigh*
I wish there was a OFOS Bootcamp for some of theese "new school" butches...the smoothness charm and energy is just all wrong..(at least for me).....anyway Thanks Jet for the thread

I have no idea what “new school” is all about. Someone care to enlighten me on their interpretation?

Originally Posted by LittleShug

I have a question--

In your opinion, do Old Fashioned/Old School and Stone go hand in hand?

Just wondering what interpretations there might be...

My short answer: No, they do not.

Opinion….Interpretations…My disclaimer…What you are about to read is totally my opinion and has nothing to do with how anyone else may feel about OFOS. It’s all my opinion and how I interact with the world, not just the realm of the Butch-Femme Dynamic.

What is OFOS? Maybe it would be easier to say what it is not. I believe for some the idea of OFOS is the Ward and June Clever life. It is that idea has caused a rejection of OFOS for some people…That it is outdated, therefore irrelevant today.

OFOS is not keeping the little woman is the kitchen so dinner is on the table when the Butch comes home from a long day at work.

OFOS is not a Butch taking care of everything because the Femme is unable.

OFOS is not just opening the door for Femmes.

OFOS is not about who is on top or bottom.

In my opinion OFOS is all about love, respect, honor and loyalty. None of which should be exclusively OFOS. All of these things should be part of one’s living code of ethics.

For me, OFOS is a way of life. I open a door for a Femme or even a Butch to honor and respect that person, not because I am Butch and that is what I am suppose to do. An OFOS Femme appreciates these gestures because she knows it is done out of love, honor and respect, not because she cannot do it herself.

I walk on the street side with my hand on the small of her back or holding her elbow because I care, honor and respect her. She allows me to do so because she knows it is how I honor her.

I walk in front of her, grasping her hands behind me as we wander through a crowded room. This keeps her from getting bumped and she allows me to do so because she respects that this is how I show my caring and respect for her.

For the life of me, I don’t understand why simply courtesy has dropped to the wayside and are called old fashioned. For me, it is anything but old fashioned. It is the way I choose to move through this world. Why do I feel so alone?


OSB

[Jet]

Glad this is bumped up. I forgot this thread was here. Sayin hey...from OSOF-er

[OS Butch]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

Glad this is bumped up. I forgot this thread was here. Sayin hey...from OSOF-er

Hi. OFOS does often get forgotten. It is a shame.

[Soft*Silver]

I cant imagine dating anyone who wasnt OFOS. I think the older I get, the more I appreciate the basics: someone who is courteous, respectful, entertaining, tastefully charming, genuinely warm, offers a woman quiet adoration without suffocation, and most of all can classically slow dance without stepping on the dance floor, to my music that isnt heard on the jukebox by anyone but him...

[OS Butch]

Originally Posted by softness

I cant imagine dating anyone who wasnt OFOS. I think the older I get, the more I appreciate the basics: someone who is courteous, respectful, entertaining, tastefully charming, genuinely warm, offers a woman quiet adoration without suffocation, and most of all can classically slow dance without stepping on the dance floor, to my music that isnt heard on the jukebox by anyone but him...

That is exactly the dance of an OFOS couple. Thank you for your point of view.

OSB

[OS Butch]

Well, now...I am new to this site, but have been on line in the B-F community for over 5 years. I think as I have grown older, I have gotten more vocal...I wonder if it it because I really don't care what people think of me, I am just me and that is that.

With that being said, here are the thought running through this brain of mine.....

Wow, this thread was opened in November and has only had 30 posts and only 350 views......

Which then leads to....

I guess I really am a dinosaur and I am all alone...

or

People see OFOS and assume you have to be old as dirt to be OFOS and are not interested.....

or even

It's that folks have had a run in with the person that opened the thread and won't go here because of that. I don't know that and I don't know Ol Jet, just saying what is going through my head.


Having values of loyalty, honor and trust are not Old Fashioned, Old School and should never go out of style.

OSB

[OS Butch]

It's official, I am a Wooly Mammoth. Sad to see anything go extinct, especially when all it takes is a bit of care and nurturing.

OSB

[Mrs. Strutt]

Good morning to the other OS folks

[Greyson]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Strutt

Good morning to the other OS folks

Good morning bact at you Mrs. Strutt. Nice to see yet another familiar face here. The Strutt family is back in da house.

[Jet]

Jet's .02

This is my two cents which I pulled out of a pair of
penny loafers that belonged my girlfriend, Susie Q,
who I made out with at the drive-in in my pickup.

Being old school isn't a philosophy. It is not complicated
deserving of heated debate or discourse or dissertation
It is not something politically correct to the point of
hatred. It is uncomplicated and unpretentious and
worn like distressed leather.

Old school is romantic and passionate.

I believe it is something innate, a way of life
that has everything to do with they way we are built; what we prefer
our tastes and likenesses.

It is not acquired. It is natural.
Because we have a natural respect and likenesses and affinities
for things that are traditional and, well...old fashioned.

Old school is pure heart.

We are deeply romantic and passionate for traditional loves and roles.
Roles are not a bad thing.
They are not some facade on one day and off another or for the moment.

For me, roles are a way of life.
They are about dancing with your wife. And going to war
if ever called because it's the right thing to do.
And loving children. And sunsets and working
for a living and loving hard and long at a summer place
and loving so deeply that your core being is
fully satisfied as the very woman or man that you are.

Old school comes naturally.

At times, it feels manly and responsible and romantic and passionate
and charged with devotion, care and values that existed in another time.
And all of these things are clean and sweet like a high notes.

But they vary as we vary.
"To each his own brother," as an old schooler would say.

Old school is heart's desire that runs as deep as the ocean.
Maybe being swept off your feet, and pleasing a man with a beautiful
femininity of yours and qualities that a real-in-soul guy lives for...
because that is how he is made. Just as much as your willingness to
be cared for and loved in a way that is nurturing, and that is sexy and passionate to you.
Respected and honored in mind and body.
It's an old value that is ours.

Did you ever catch fireflies? Did you ever just know,
with a look or a touch, that it was for life?
That's old school.

It is natural and simple and it is just us.

And for the record?

This is what was playing at the drive-in that night
when I fell in love and I was loved because

I am truly old school...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihljspJpzG4"]YouTube- A Summer Place(1959)/피서지�서 �긴�[/ame]

Did you ever catch fireflies?

[Jet]

My kind of old school.
Actually, I mimed this rendition in a 1950s
drag show years ago, with my buddy, D.J. who is now FTM.
He played Johnny Angel and I played White Buck Ford.
The girlies swooned. heh, heh.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ydPIrktKY"]YouTube- tears on my pillow -sha na na-[/ame]

[Princess4u]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

Jet's .02

This is my two cents which I pulled out of a pair of
penny loafers that belonged my girlfriend, Susie Q,
who I made out with at the drive-in in my pickup.

Being old school isn't a philosophy. It is not complicated
deserving of heated debate or discourse or dissertation
It is not something politically correct to the point of
hatred. It is uncomplicated and unpretentious and
worn like distressed leather.

Old school is romantic and passionate.

I believe it is something innate, a way of life
that has everything to do with they way we are built; what we prefer
our tastes and likenesses.

It is not acquired. It is natural.
Because we have a natural respect and likenesses and affinities
for things that are traditional and, well...old fashioned.

Old school is pure heart.

We are deeply romantic and passionate for traditional loves and roles.
Roles are not a bad thing.
They are not some facade on one day and off another or for the moment.

For me, roles are a way of life.
They are about dancing with your wife. And going to war
if ever called because it's the right thing to do.
And loving children. And sunsets and working
for a living and loving hard and long at a summer place
and loving so deeply that your core being is
fully satisfied as the very woman or man that you are.

Old school comes naturally.

At times, it feels manly and responsible and romantic and passionate
and charged with devotion, care and values that existed in another time.
And all of these things are clean and sweet like a high notes.

But they vary as we vary.
"To each his own brother," as an old schooler would say.

Old school is heart's desire that runs as deep as the ocean.
Maybe being swept off your feet, and pleasing a man with a beautiful
femininity of yours and qualities that a real-in-soul guy lives for...
because that is how he is made. Just as much as your willingness to
be cared for and loved in a way that is nurturing, and that is sexy and passionate to you.
Respected and honored in mind and body.
It's an old value that is ours.

Did you ever catch fireflies? Did you ever just know,
with a look or a touch, that it was for life?
That's old school.

It is natural and simple and it is just us.

And for the record?

This is what was playing at the drive-in that night
when I fell in love and I was loved because

I am truly old school...

YouTube- A Summer Place(1959)/피서지�서 �긴�

Did you ever catch fireflies?

That is very beautiful my friend...if you arent careful you will have a following of women swooning for your affection. Not that thats a bad thing my dear.....LOL

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Princess4u

That is very beautiful my friend...if you arent careful you will have a following of women swooning for your affection. Not that thats a bad thing my dear.....LOL

Thank you. I'm not sure about the following, but it is how i feel.

[Leigh]

Glad to see this thread bumped up, as it should be