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Old 07-15-2018, 07:50 AM   #141
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My beautiful and talented femme bride is the yin to my yang, the chocolate in my peanut butter, the aroma in my roses, and ALL things that complement.

We both love it that way, our relationship has that Butch-femme energy that pops! Her feminine smells, the way she moves her body, the way she shakes out her long scrumptious red hair.

So, whatever works for you. But for us, it is most definitely the Butch/femme dynamic.
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I recall about 12 years ago.. a friend of mine was on the butch threads.. part of the mailing out group on a different site, and she was interested in a butch that was also in the group.. and they had to keep it hush as to not get kicked out of the group. Personally I think it's crazy.. we (generally speaking) are so hard on each other and ourselves.. Love is Love in my books, and if you are lucky enough to find it... embrace! enjoy! celebrate! and fuck those who can't get past their own judgements.
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Well I just read, I think, several years worth of discussion on this topic and I've been a butch all my life and have always been attracted to butch. I did learn one thing that surprised me though... I had no idea my 40 years of butch on butch relationships was shunned in any way. Why am I just hearing of this now??? LOL

Ive heard of it being frowned upon for many years. It's a shame actually because it shouldnt matter who you love, people can shove their judgements up their arse as far as im concerned.
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Life is very, very short.

If a person cares about what other people think
of their decision for a lover, or any decision for
that matter, than that person will be on
a roller-coaster ride of emotions for the whole of
their precious life.

I've learned that it's about energy. I "dance" with
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Also the community makes you feel unwelcome, if your b/b as well.
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Also the community makes you feel unwelcome, if your b/b as well.
If you're talking about this community, I don't think that's true. The site promotes butch, femme and everything else. There are times people (may) seem intolerant but it's usually because they don't understand or are fearful. Everyone is capable of growing and changing in time.. Sometimes we just have to be patient and love them anyway.
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If you're talking about this community, I don't think that's true. But, the site promotes butch and femme and everything else. There are times people (may) seem intolerant but it's usually because they don't understand or are fearful. Everyone is capable of growing and changing in time.. Sometimes we just have to be patient and love them anyway.
In general, online and offline. Online yeah it's made known that it's frowned upon and feels unwelcoming. Offline I see the looks and stares as well as hearing the talk. Noone should feel unwelcome in the GLTBQI community.
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In general, online and offline. Online yeah it's made known that it's frowned upon and feels unwelcoming. Offline I see the looks and stares as well as hearing the talk. Noone should feel unwelcome in the GLTBQI community.
J, it's funny you should say that because when i was younger i never knew b/f existed..every couple i saw was b/b and as a femme i was made to feel i was unwelcome and even told i didn't belong...so you see, meaness, indifference and ignorance..exists everywhere in different spaces and times depending..take heart it will change where you are someday..probably sooner then later..in the meantime when you get a stare, give them back a smile or a wave..you will feel better and just maybe you will make them pause and rethink
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J, it's funny you should say that because when i was younger i never knew b/f existed..every couple i saw was b/b and as a femme i was made to feel i was unwelcome and even told i didn't belong...so you see, meaness, indifference and ignorance..exists everywhere in different spaces and times depending..take heart it will change where you are someday..probably sooner then later..in the meantime when you get a stare, give them back a smile or a wave..you will feel better and just maybe you will make them pause and rethink

I date all over the spectrum. Butch, femme, ftm, mtf. I go out often and really people watch, like detailed watching. I see mannerisms, etc and know who possibly to avoid, im not worried about myself mainly the younger crowd as well as the newly out younger ones, to hopefully they wont feel unwelcome.
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I date all over the spectrum. Butch, femme, ftm, mtf. I go out often and really people watch, like detailed watching. I see mannerisms, etc and know who possibly to avoid, im not worried about myself mainly the younger crowd as well as the newly out younger ones, to hopefully they wont feel unwelcome.
J, I've always thought you quite young but very confident..i wish i'd had your mad skills when i was your age..
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J, I've always thought you quite young but very confident..i wish i'd had your mad skills when i was your age..
Thank you, I'm 41 so not that young LOL

Anyways, at a young age like 8 or so, I learned from my gram to read people in different ways and being a stickler for details as well as obsessive about things, helps me decided about issues.
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Seriously? That's wrong as well as ridiculous!

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Seriously? That's wrong as well as ridiculous!
Yes, it is horrible and ridiculous.
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I can appreciate that ... dating across the spectrum. Why not?!

As I sit and recollect ... my only dating femmes may have been due to the fact that that's how it was way back when. The menu in those days was UBER small and social norms, even in the LGB* community, did influence one's behavior.


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I believe the moment each of us came out of whichever proverbial closet that we were in… Was the first moment we started living our lives like it was the only one we had. 'Those people' with their 'opinions' don't sleep in your bed, or live in your head and heart - soooo they don't get vote in how you live YOUR life. Look for your own happy JDeere..

As the lovely Ms Roberts once said.. I would rather have 30 minutes of "wonderful" than a lifetime of nothing special.
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As I sit and recollect ... my only dating femmes may have been due to the fact that that's how it was way back when. The menu in those days was UBER small and social norms, even in the LGB* community, did influence one's behavior.




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I believe the moment each of us came out of whichever proverbial closet that we were in… Was the first moment we started living our lives like it was the only one we had. 'Those people' with their 'opinions' don't sleep in your bed, or live in your head and heart - soooo they don't get vote in how you live YOUR life. Look for your own happy JDeere..

As the lovely Ms Roberts once said.. I would rather have 30 minutes of "wonderful" than a lifetime of nothing special.


Honestly i wasnt making it about me, just using myself as an example of what I've seen and heard.... Plus i see newbies on here that have posted in this thread, i can't think how to word it, shocked maybe that b on b is frowned upon by some.
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Life is WAY to short to worry about how someone identifies.....it's about finding someone who complements your life. Love is love, it should never matter how someone identifies, what color they are, how much money they make or what sex they are.

I guess call me a romantic.*shrugs*
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