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Old 09-15-2011, 12:10 PM   #21
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I sure did....lmao...good one...now all we need is a Disco Ball, the soundtrack Disco Duck, and we are good to go....
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I don't view sex as a service unless it's in that specific dynamic. It's sex, and sex feels good, my phantom appendage will be attached when I am entering the person and I guess you could say it's an energy flow that is being passed on through the act of penetration. When I am entering it's all of me entering it's not tied specifically to whatever. I'm assuming it's like that for butches and ftm's it flows regardless of what one is using.

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That absolutely makes sense. For me it is an energy flow that moves through me and into my lady. I remember the first time I could actually feel her walls pull me in. I was fascinated, intrigued and in sensual heaven. I recall wanting to do it again and again just to recapture that initial sensation. Lucky for me she was more than willing to encourage me, in every sense.

I love the energetic flow that allows her to feel me inside without any appendage attached at all. However, I have not found that with every partner. Some are less able to sense energy than others. That's okay. I think it takes practice for one and more importantly an open mind. I have not always found that latter to be a given however.

With Tantra we use quite a bit of breath work, hip rocking...etc to bring the energy up and through the body. The energy built also increases the length and intensity of the orgasm. For me too. I love the ripple orgasms that I can feel coming through my cock as she holds on and vibrates over and over.

And the sounds.... I love being vocal. Whether it is loud sounds or peotry. I love to hear them, it increases the connection I have with my lady. I feel thwarted if I am with a partner who is not very vocal and does not appreciate the encouraging sounds/words I use. But then that partner never sticks around long. I am way too old to hang where I am not happy.
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Hoooooooooraaaayyyy for this thread! About time!!!
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I think calling femme cock "common" to butches and FTMs is really going to be unique to each and every individual femme who embraces that part of their sexual identity.

In my opinion and experience, we all attract and are attracted to a certain type of person - and that changes over time. When I was younger and less self-aware, I attracted and accepted attention from a different type of person than I do today. Would it have been fair for me to say back then that it's common for butches to be emotional manipulative of femmes? Absolutely not. That was just, sadly, where I was in my life's journey. Today, those types of butches have no place in my life.

So, I understand that it's not my place to contradict anyone on this thread and say it's actually more common for butches and FTMs to *not* be attracted to femme cock - although in my experience, I have never met a butch or FTM who would entertain such a notion. All I can say is that the type of butch I attract, as well as the type of femme that I am, don't embrace the femme cock concept at any level.

It doesn't make it right or wrong. It doesn't make anyone more or less a femme. It doesn't make anyone a better lover. It just makes it what it is.

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Maybe the reason you've never met a butch or ftm who would "entertain' the notion because they've been shamed for having those thoughts or desires.

Interesting how butches and ftm's have to entertain and femmes are expected to like cock period. Very interesting
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No, my dear Lady Snow, I have no shame in my sexuality, thoughts, or desires. At the age of 40, I am quite confident in what I like and what I want. I can say unequivocally that femme cock is not a part of my identity. Nor, do I feel any less equipped as a femme or as a lover by not embracing that concept.

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No, my dear Lady Snow, I have no shame in my sexuality, thoughts, or desires. At the age of 40, I am quite confident in what I like and what I want. I can say unequivocally that femme cock is not a part of my identity. Nor, do I feel any less equipped as a femme or as a lover by not embracing that concept.

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So it's not a common practice in your relationships, I get that for some of us Femme's, butches, and ftm's it is... Hence the start of this thread. I don't think anyone has said you are less equipped as a femme for your lack of having one.

I'm going to assume you support Femme Cock and those who like it hence why you came in here and posted as a supporter of our sex.



PS-- I do still find it interesting the fact butches and ftms have to "entertain" the idea while Femme's are expected to like it... It's interesting....
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I think calling femme cock "common" to butches and FTMs is really going to be unique to each and every individual femme who embraces that part of their sexual identity.
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So, I understand that it's not my place to contradict anyone on this thread and say it's actually more common for butches and FTMs to *not* be attracted to femme cock.
I'm not trying to attack you for having your own opinion - but aren't these two statements contradicting themselves?

On one hand you say it's unique and then on the other hand you give a broad generalization.
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Thank you Lady Snow (& all planeteers)!

I learn much from you, i.e., that "service" did have another meaning or context.

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...So, I understand that it's not my place to contradict anyone on this thread and say it's actually more common for butches and FTMs to *not* be attracted to femme cock - although in my experience, I have never met a butch or FTM who would entertain such a notion...
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Would you please speak to your choice in making this post here, in a thread so obviously supportive of femme cock and the femme cock-admirers?

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I "entertained" the idea once....that was all it took!

When some of my femme friends have said they would love to be a fly on the wall when we are having a boys night or when I am with a group of butches...believe me when I say, you would hear some interesting conversations about things that some of us (not all of us mind you) actually enjoy, but never talk about.

5 years ago, I never would have mentioned anything about thinking that femme cock is hot, but I think it is time to start talking about it! It doesn't make me one tiny bit less butch (or any other negative connotation I have ever heard...see Lady Snow's post with the list of things said earlier in this thread...I have heard more than one of those in my time!) because I like femme cock and think it is hot!

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As soon as someone starts quoting their own idiosyncratic experiences as fact,

I want to do a survey to collect some qualitative/quantitive data.

Field research might interest me.
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I "entertained" the idea once....that was all it took!

When some of my femme friends have said they would love to be a fly on the wall when we are having a boys night or when I am with a group of butches...believe me when I say, you would hear some interesting conversations about things that some of us (not all of us mind you) actually enjoy, but never talk about.

5 years ago, I never would have mentioned anything about thinking that femme cock is hot, but I think it is time to start talking about it! It doesn't make me one tiny bit less butch (or any other negative connotation I have ever heard...see Lady Snow's post with the list of things said earlier in this thread...I have heard more than one of those in my time!) because I like femme cock and think it is hot!

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ROTFL!

There may very well be more "perverted" butches, transguys, etc. around than anyone might imagine!

For the life of me, I don't get some of this stuff sometimes- couples of every type and kind- from heterosexual to the queerist of queer have been enjoying and using "femme" cock for a very long time. Lots of straight men enjoy back door sex via dildo worn by their wives/girl friends. It does not have a thing to do with gender identity or roles- it has to do with pleasure and what a couple wants to share.

I so agree with Just G about what can be heard among butches about all of this. But something that bothers me is that there is some kind of secret code about it- as well as for butches that are not focused on butch cock as the sexual main event.

For such a diverse, "open" and sex positive community, I often just shake my head.
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There may very well be more "perverted" butches, transguys, etc. around than anyone might imagine!

For the life of me, I don't get some of this stuff sometimes- couples of every type and kind- from heterosexual to the queerist of queer have been enjoying and using "femme" cock for a very long time. Lots of straight men enjoy back door sex via dildo worn by their wives/girl friends. It does not have a thing to do with gender identity or roles- it has to do with pleasure and what a couple wants to share.

I so agree with Just G about what can be heard among butches about all of this. But something that bothers me is that there is some kind of secret code about it- as well as for butches that are not focused on butch cock as the sexual main event.

For such a diverse, "open" and sex positive community, I often just shake my head.

I only experience this Femme Cock phobia here online, I do truly think it's all them isms that leak into our LGBTQ canvas, it's a heteronormative expectation.

I think it's something that men experience as well because like you stated that it's a biggo secret. I don't know what the word is exactly to use to describe what it is.
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I'm not adept at using the multiple quote function, so I'll try to remember who I'm responding to.

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I was only trying to say that when we talk about what is "common", that is unique to each person's set of experiences. That person can generalize about that commonality within their own life, but, imo, I think they begin to tread on thin ice when they attempt to generalize to an entire population of butches or femmes or FTMs. I was using myself as a contrasting example to one of the other posts that had caught my attention about what is common, in terms of femme cock. Sorry I wasn't more clear, but thank you for asking.

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I support anything that works for 2 consenting adults, as long as it does not involve children or animals. If it's femme, butch, or trans cock - or any type of kink... I say more power to the individual who is able to embrace it as part of their desire and can own it without shame.

You also said: "Interesting how butches and ftm's have to entertain and femmes are expected to like cock period." I agree with your statement 100%.

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I wasn't saying that anyone who disliked it was abnomal lol - but I can see that it could be connoted from my statement.

I personally was NOT into strapping on or penetrating (butches, I did men) in any way for quite a few years. However, I did find that when I *did* start penetrating (just with a hand held dildo at first) that most of the people I fucked who voiciferously said they were not into it, and I said "no problem. I don't care either way" would, after they felt safe enough (maybe 6 months, maybe a year) would ask me if we could try it. some did not want it shaped in any way like a dick. fair enough.

But after getting private messages on b-f.com during chat and in the forums for years from butches who knew I did use "toys" and "impliments" tell me that they liked it or were curious but would never ever tell their mates and how could they possibly bring it up with their partner.... it's been *my* experience that it's pretty damn common to be interested in what it might feel like (at the very least) with feeling very inhibited for good reason about saying so.

So the reason I assert that it *is* common, is to undo the long standing myth that butches, en mass, don't like penetration and that's a given default setting just because one's gender is masculine female or masculine woman -or masculine anything, really.

I'm been a big slag in my life and done a lot of fucking with a lot of people. A lot of men too. And men, in my experience, once they know you've wiggled a finger and know how to stimulate that prostate gland with expertise to almost all of the blokes before them... will allow an "experimental" well greased finger up there while performing well executed head. And in my experience, none of them EVER said "oh that doesn't feel good, stop it" - they've all been pretty damn pleased they tried it. But jesus don't ever mention it to ANYONE, especially my best friend/ex etc.

Penetration is often viewed as feminising, rather than just a sex act, so many people who don't want their masculinity called into question would rather be slapped 7 ways to friday with a metal pole that admit to people who may judge them for it that the pole felt pretty good in another place.

That's why enjoying that kind of sex is fairly common, in my view. it doesn't make people who don't like it abnormal. Ever. They just don't enjoy it. That's it. Full stop.

But with me, that option will always be there, with no judgement either way.
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I only experience this Femme Cock phobia here online, I do truly think it's all them isms that leak into our LGBTQ canvas, it's a heteronormative expectation.
I think it's something that men experience as well because like you stated that it's a biggo secret. I don't know what the word is exactly to use to describe what it is.

I agree- so very heteronormative. And I think connected to the whole male ego garbage. Firstly, I am female and lesbian. Secondly, cock as sex toy or accessory is not gender specific. As I have said before, for me it is about clit extension and celebration anyway. My orgasms are products of my clitoris- no matter how and with what might be part of the stimulation that sends it into glory.

Fergoddessakes, in heterosexual sex, the guys penis was just part of the stimulative configuration. There are aspects of every human sense being excited during sex which all work quite well together, each doing their part to promote pleasure.

I really appreciate femmes wanting to talk about femme cock and take their rightful ownership of cock usage as femmes. In fact, it is refreshing.

I would also honmor a femme lover's feelings about not wanting to use or explore femme cock as I would any kind of sexual boundary.
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