OFOS Butches & Femmes

[Jet]

A place for old fashioned and old school cool folks to congregate. Thread is now open to just hang out or to talk about what it means to you to be OFOS.

[Leigh]

This looks like its gonna be a great thread Jet, I will definately be back

[Jet]

Hi Braedon, surely we can't be the only ones who are OFOS....
Where are the femmes?
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[Darth Denkay]

Wicket here - thanks for starting the thread!

[Jet]

Originally Posted by WicketWWarrick

Wicket here - thanks for starting the thread!

Hey welcome! I think we need to keep this bumped up since it's so new.

[hpychick]

First femme to stop by! Hey y'all!

[sultrybrunette50]

Hello to all...I'm a new on here..I'm a stone femme..I love the Butch Femme Dynamics and wouldn't have it any other way!!

[Kimbo]

Not sure if I am one of the cool peeps but I'm here hanging out. Thanks for the thread Jet.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Kimbo

Not sure if I am one of the cool peeps but I'm here hanging out. Thanks for the thread Jet.

You're cool and you're welcome

[Jet]

Jet's .02

This is my two cents which I pulled out of a pair of
penny loafers that belonged my girlfriend, Susie Q,
who I made out with at the drive-in in my pickup.

Being old school isn't a philosophy. It is not complicated
deserving of heated debate or discourse or dissertation
It is not something politically correct to the point of
hatred. It is uncomplicated and unpretentious and
worn like distressed leather.

Old school is romantic and passionate.

I believe it is something innate, a way of life
that has everything to do with they way we are built; what we prefer
our tastes and likenesses.

It is not acquired. It is natural.
Because we have a natural respect and likenesses and affinities
for things that are traditional and, well...old fashioned.

Old school is pure heart.

We are deeply romantic and passionate for traditional loves and roles.
Roles are not a bad thing.
They are not some facade on one day and off another or for the moment.

For me, roles are a way of life.
They are about dancing with your wife. And going to war
if ever called because it's the right thing to do.
And loving children. And sunsets and working
for a living and loving hard and long at a summer place
and loving so deeply that your core being is
fully satisfied as the very woman or man that you are.

Old school comes naturally.

At times, it feels manly and responsible and romantic and passionate
and charged with devotion, care and values that existed in another time.
And all of these things are clean and sweet like a high notes.

But they vary as we vary.
"To each his own brother," as an old schooler would say.

Old school is heart's desire that runs as deep as the ocean.
Maybe being swept off your feet, and pleasing a man with a beautiful
femininity of yours and qualities that a real-in-soul guy lives for...
because that is how he is made. Just as much as your willingness to
be cared for and loved in a way that is nurturing, and that is sexy and passionate to you.
Respected and honored in mind and body.
It's an old value that is ours.

Did you ever catch fireflies? Did you ever just know,
with a look or a touch, that it was for life?
That's old school.

It is natural and simple and it is just us.

And for the record?

This is what was playing at the drive-in that night
when I fell in love and I was loved because

I am truly old school...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihljspJpzG4"]YouTube- A Summer Place(1959)/피서지�서 �긴�[/ame]

Did you ever catch fireflies?

[Princess4u]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

Jet's .02

This is my two cents which I pulled out of a pair of
penny loafers that belonged my girlfriend, Susie Q,
who I made out with at the drive-in in my pickup.

Being old school isn't a philosophy. It is not complicated
deserving of heated debate or discourse or dissertation
It is not something politically correct to the point of
hatred. It is uncomplicated and unpretentious and
worn like distressed leather.

Old school is romantic and passionate.

I believe it is something innate, a way of life
that has everything to do with they way we are built; what we prefer
our tastes and likenesses.

It is not acquired. It is natural.
Because we have a natural respect and likenesses and affinities
for things that are traditional and, well...old fashioned.

Old school is pure heart.

We are deeply romantic and passionate for traditional loves and roles.
Roles are not a bad thing.
They are not some facade on one day and off another or for the moment.

For me, roles are a way of life.
They are about dancing with your wife. And going to war
if ever called because it's the right thing to do.
And loving children. And sunsets and working
for a living and loving hard and long at a summer place
and loving so deeply that your core being is
fully satisfied as the very woman or man that you are.

Old school comes naturally.

At times, it feels manly and responsible and romantic and passionate
and charged with devotion, care and values that existed in another time.
And all of these things are clean and sweet like a high notes.

But they vary as we vary.
"To each his own brother," as an old schooler would say.

Old school is heart's desire that runs as deep as the ocean.
Maybe being swept off your feet, and pleasing a man with a beautiful
femininity of yours and qualities that a real-in-soul guy lives for...
because that is how he is made. Just as much as your willingness to
be cared for and loved in a way that is nurturing, and that is sexy and passionate to you.
Respected and honored in mind and body.
It's an old value that is ours.

Did you ever catch fireflies? Did you ever just know,
with a look or a touch, that it was for life?
That's old school.

It is natural and simple and it is just us.

And for the record?

This is what was playing at the drive-in that night
when I fell in love and I was loved because

I am truly old school...

YouTube- A Summer Place(1959)/피서지�서 �긴�

Did you ever catch fireflies?

That is very beautiful my friend...if you arent careful you will have a following of women swooning for your affection. Not that thats a bad thing my dear.....LOL

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Princess4u

That is very beautiful my friend...if you arent careful you will have a following of women swooning for your affection. Not that thats a bad thing my dear.....LOL

Thank you. I'm not sure about the following, but it is how i feel.

[Leigh]

Glad to see this thread bumped up, as it should be

[Soft*Silver]

my daughter, who is now 26 and almost engaged, took her cues from her momma about dating...when she started dating, she developed a criteria check list that they had to pass before she would accept a date, and a list for after the first date was over. She had seen me date OFOS butches throughout her childhood and expected her hetero bio men to treat her as well as my butches treated me...

[Jet]

Honey Touch Me With My Clothes On

[Lillie]

Is there any other kind?

I guess I have been lucky in finding any butch I dated being ofos. I love being treated like a lady. I live in an area where the next town over is 65+ and occasionally we shop there..I always get a giggle when I hear the older woman say to her husband "Oh look at that nice young man opening her car door" and than she turns around and they turn red realizing she is in fact a she!...I respect any woman ofos or not who treats another with respect and manners AND trust me it does not go un noticed when its genuine ..and completely NOTICED when its not!:

lol
Lillie

[Kätzchen]

I really like a lot of the sentiment that has been expressed here by Jet and by Tiffany (Mrs. Strutt) and by Softness.

Several descriptions of what OFOS are known to be like, such as: Jet conveying that being OFOS comes from a place of sharing an affinity for romance and passion - something that's innate between the butch and a femme who share and enjoy the dynamic of their relationship dance. I like how Tiffany likened it to "feeling like a soft, many times washed, old cotton t-shirt that fits like a glove" - I like how she decribed that feeling between those who feel they are of the OFOS variety. Also, I enjoyed reading ideas that Softness presented: for example, she was saying that "dating means dating, not sex" and "smiling at a butch means hello" or even "dancing means dancing" together and not something else!

I feel that I am rather old fashioned and of an older, mature, school of thought in that I - for those of you who have met me and spoken with me in person - am pretty quiet by nature and not as 'out loud and proud' as some might think. Even in my past professional career as a practicing, licensed hairdresser (Tiffany might agree with me on this), we serve our clinetele with a gracious spirit and I guess this is what I am trying to say about me - is that there's a spirit of grace that permeates my personality and the way I carry myself. At least I have been told this by people who know me and interact with me on a daily basis.

I have another story (an example) of what I'm like in a different context/situation: My advisor (and Program Director) was gone to Israel on a special trip with colleagues in the department and I needed special assistance. So, I went to our department chairperson - I've had them for several courses - and during our hour long visit to help me resolve a conflict, he said to me that 'I was such a sweetheart of a person' because of how I was trying to make sense of my situation and be considerate of the other person, as well as myself. It felt good to hear him say that to me because sometimes that is not how people read me... if that makes any sense at all.

For me (a Femme perspective), OFOS orientation is connected to -

timing issues: I wait to be invited to dance

romantic notions: a melding of fidelity and trust

relationship ideals: a passionate regard for the traditional

to me, it's an intricate dance of communication skills between two people who share similar values and beliefs and it's not too easy, this dance that we do. That said, it would seem that what I have been able to itemize above might seem to be what most people strive to attain in ordinary ways, but there's something special that occurs between those of us who identify with what OFOS means to those of us who feel we exude these qualities. It seems so hard to decribe in written text - it seems elusive, yet I know and recognise the signs by which we give to one another and how it feels as we live it in our daily lives. Like Jet was saying in an earlier post - being OFOS "is uncomplicated, unpretentious and worn like distressed leather."

To me, that feels so right and describes how I feel about what OFOS is about.
It's late, so if my post seems to not make too much sense, just know that I'm headed to dreamland soon... My pillows are finally calling me!

Good night and sweet dreams to all of you!

[snow white]

Hello!

I'm new, so I am still very much finding my way around the site but I thought I'd pop by here and say "hi" as you all seem very nice.

I have still to make my first 30 posts and cannot start a new thread yet, so I was looking for places where I could make relevant posts to build up my number without just posting for the sake of it....if that makes sense?? : )

Anyway, I found this thread and thought it might be relevant to me. I'm not really sure...

Ok...here goes! I'm straight. Or, at least I have been my entire life. However, in the last couple of weeks I have discovered that I am *very* attracted to Butch lesbians and now I'm wondering what that means...(I think particularly Stone Butches??)

I am not only straight, I am submissive and am fairly familiar with the BDSM community, so I was wondering if my submissiveness may be muddying the waters a little...? I honestly don't know, actually, and am finding all of this very confusing and would really like some help figuring it all out. If anyone is willing to discuss this with me further I'd really appreciate it : ) Oh, and I'm in the UK if that's relevant.

I see that someone in this thread identified themselves as an "innocent sub or femme" (or something similar?), and although I didn't think to use this to describe how I identify, I am going to appropriate it now (thanks to whomever it was!). I grew up with fairy tales and identified very strongly with the hyper-feminine innocence and beauty, grace and gentleness of the princesses in these stories, and have never shaken that off. I love chivalry and mourn it's loss in this busy, modern world. I am still awaiting my Knight in Shining Armour to come and rescue me, but, until now, I had never considered that their gender could be anything other than male...

Please could some kind person help me to figure out what's going on? Thank you! : )

Sorry if this post is in the wrong place, btw, and pls feel free to move it! : )

Lovely to meet you all and have a great evening!

Snow White x

[snow white]

Am I allowed to bump this?

[Sweet Bliss]

Originally Posted by snow white

Am I allowed to bump this?

Of course you may! I like to bump too!