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Old 06-26-2020, 09:48 AM   #1421
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She does have a port. I don't know how to make it but I was recently reading about it. Do you have a recipe? I will also Google it.

Thanks for the suggestion, EGF!
I'm glad she has a port. That makes things easier.

There are a lot of ways to make stock. If you have a crock pot/slow cooker it's easiest. When I had cancer I couldn't handle touching meat but I had friends with a farm and they would make this for me any time they were processing a chicken or turkey.

I usually start with roasting a chicken and then breaking it down. But it doesn't have to be chicken. Beef bones can make the stock thicker though and that's not always desired- though it does add more protein.
Put all of the bones and some of the bone meat into crock pot.
Add in celery garlic onions mushrooms carrots turmeric salt and a small splash of vinegar (vinegar just helps break up the bones to release more nutrients). I also really like turnips in there.
Top with water to about two inches from the top.
Cook on low for at least 8 hours.
Strain.
Serve.

You can do all of the same stovetop with a big pot. It's just easier with a crock pot so you don't have to watch it so much.

If you can get Miso paste to make miso broth that's also super high protein and healthy to drink when you can't get food down.

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Thank you, Easy! I'm going to do this tomorrow. Mom has a Crock-Pot. We also have a instant pot which I've only used three times.

I am going to try to get her eating as much as possible today. She had a horrible night but I made her eat a pudding cup and then I mixed a BeneCalorie into a small glass of Carnation breakfast drink and had her drink that. She's sleeping now but when she wakes up I'll make her eat again.

I appreciate your input. I'm going to go with the chicken. Any other suggestions please send them my way.

Thanks again!

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If you need to mix medicine into something, applesauce can be a good mix. The dairy might be hard on her stomach right now...
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I am in the emergency department with my mother. She began vomiting and must have dislodged the PEG tube because it started leaking.

She's so weak that I had to call 911.
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I am in the emergency department with my mother. She began vomiting and must have dislodged the PEG tube because it started leaking.

She's so weak that I had to call 911.
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I am in the emergency department with my mother. She began vomiting and must have dislodged the PEG tube because it started leaking.

She's so weak that I had to call 911.

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Wrag... holding you and your mom in my thoughts. I know you will update when you can.
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I am in the emergency department with my mother. She began vomiting and must have dislodged the PEG tube because it started leaking.

She's so weak that I had to call 911.
((((((((((((((((((((((Wrang & MOM)))))))))))).....I am saddened to hear this, buddy! Know many of us are holding you & your mom up, sending positive juju to you both!
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We spent over 12 hours in the emergency department yesterday. The doctor on duty didn't feel like my mother qualified to be admitted. The x-rays showed the tube was still in it's proper place. I attempted more than once to explain everything that was going on with her. He discharged her twice. Each time the nurses tried to get her up stomach fluids would flow out of the hole. So much so, that it puddled on the floor. How in the hell was I going to be able to take her home? She was in immense pain. She had not ate anything other than a pudding cup and applesauce for days. Nor had she gotten any sleep. He suggested I put her into a nursing home.

Thankfully, the charge nurse made the ultimate decision to keep her. I can't tell you how relieved I was.

It sucks that some doctors don't take the time to stop and listen. Or just want to move on to the next patient. I realize the emergency department is usually slammed but my mom is still a human being who is obviously suffering greatly. I will be communicating this to the higher ups.

I am getting ready to go back over. I'll fill everyone in once I find out what's going on.

Thanks for all the support. It's nice to have all of you and the planet to be able to vent and share with.

Thanks to you all.

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We spent over 12 hours in the emergency department yesterday. The doctor on duty didn't feel like my mother qualified to be admitted. The x-rays showed the tube was still in it's proper place. I attempted more than once to explain everything that was going on with her. He discharged her twice. Each time the nurses tried to get her up stomach fluids would flow out of the hole. So much so, that it puddled on the floor. How in the hell was I going to be able to take her home? She was in immense pain. She had not ate anything other than a pudding cup and applesauce for days. Nor had she gotten any sleep. He suggested I put her into a nursing home.

Thankfully, the charge nurse made the ultimate decision to keep her. I can't tell you how relieved I was.

It sucks that some doctors don't take the time to stop and listen. Or just want to move on to the next patient. I realize the emergency department is usually slammed but my mom is still a human being who is obviously suffering greatly. I will be communicating this to the higher ups.

I am getting ready to go back over. I'll fill everyone in once I find out what's going on.

Thanks for all the support. It's nice to have all of you and the planet to be able to vent and share with.

Thanks to you all.

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(((((((((((((((((((((Wrang))))))))))))))). I am happy to hear they did keep her. Thank the Universe for NURSES! They are the ones who actually spend the most time with a patient!

Though "empty" the stomach still produces gastric acids, and quite possibly her stoma (site where tube is in) may be "stretched" thus allowing for that leakage. May be suggest a larger size feeding tube? Just my thoughts on that, having dealt with these sorts of issues in past. Does she have a stomal dressing to help stabilize that feeding tube? Just some ideas to mull over with the nurses?! Sends you big hugs & more for your mom!!
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(((((((((((((((((((((Wrang))))))))))))))). I am happy to hear they did keep her. Thank the Universe for NURSES! They are the ones who actually spend the most time with a patient!

Though "empty" the stomach still produces gastric acids, and quite possibly her stoma (site where tube is in) may be "stretched" thus allowing for that leakage. May be suggest a larger size feeding tube? Just my thoughts on that, having dealt with these sorts of issues in past. Does she have a stomal dressing to help stabilize that feeding tube? Just some ideas to mull over with the nurses?! Sends you big hugs & more for your mom!!
I agree wholeheartedly about the nurses!

They are taking that PEG tube out tomorrow. I think you are right, Clay, regarding the stoma. You can see that it's much wider than the tube. I believe from all the pressure put on it from vomiting.

She now has an NGtube which is sucking all that nastiness out of her. She's experiencing pain but she's getting Dilaudid through her IV every four hours. She's also getting fluids. No food or drink though.

I had to laugh earlier. She asked the nurse for ice. The nurse complied but with instructions that she can only have a little.

I left the room and when I came back she was still eating ice. I told her she's only allowed a few pieces. She replied that she knew but she was addicted to it. She's a little out of it.
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I agree wholeheartedly about the nurses!

They are taking that PEG tube out tomorrow. I think you are right, Clay, regarding the stoma. You can see that it's much wider than the tube. I believe from all the pressure put on it from vomiting.

She now has an NGtube which is sucking all that nastiness out of her. She's experiencing pain but she's getting Dilaudid through her IV every four hours. She's also getting fluids. No food or drink though.

I had to laugh earlier. She asked the nurse for ice. The nurse complied but with instructions that she can only have a little.

I left the room and when I came back she was still eating ice. I told her she's only allowed a few pieces. She replied that she knew but she was addicted to it. She's a little out of it.
Hey Wrang! Good on getting j-peg out. I have to tell you, I had an NG tube for 5 weeks back in December when I got so sick & was in hospital for 50 days, had surgery, too. They put a PICC line in my arm, into my superior vena cava to give me TPN (total parenteral nutrition)...a specially mixed bag of lipids(fats), nutrients, vitamins, minerals, electrolytes, etc, that I had for 2 weeks.

As far as her eating the ice chips..no worries as the NG will just suck it right back out...lol. BUT the chips will stimulate more gastric acids...

I, too, got Dilaudid IV for most all 50 days....whoohoo. It would make me so loopy, within seconds. The nurses got so much laughter once I was "drugged". LOL.

Otherwise, at least she has pain under control Has NG to empty tummy and got ice chips, so all is good, yes....at least control over some of her problems....hugs buddy!
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I agree wholeheartedly about the nurses!

They are taking that PEG tube out tomorrow. I think you are right, Clay, regarding the stoma. You can see that it's much wider than the tube. I believe from all the pressure put on it from vomiting.

She now has an NGtube which is sucking all that nastiness out of her. She's experiencing pain but she's getting Dilaudid through her IV every four hours. She's also getting fluids. No food or drink though.

I had to laugh earlier. She asked the nurse for ice. The nurse complied but with instructions that she can only have a little.

I left the room and when I came back she was still eating ice. I told her she's only allowed a few pieces. She replied that she knew but she was addicted to it. She's a little out of it.

Really good update! Unbelievable how you had to fight to get her admitted to get to this place. I'm really glad they are taking good care of your mom now.
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I am not going to go into a lot of detail tonight because I am spent. They couldn't take the tube out due to complications. They called in a surgeon to ask his opinion. He said it's time for palliative care.

I will talk to her oncologist tomorrow. If he says the same I am going to get a second opinion.

I don't want to give up yet. I feel they have. Maybe I am fooling myself or being selfish. I just want to know for sure.

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Mom had an echocardiogram which came back normal. This means she can start chemo on the 30th.

I hope she'll be strong enough to go. She's so sick right now. Barely eating or drinking. She gets weaker each day.

I'm hoping to some how get her feeling better by Tuesday. I'm also hoping the chemo works and works quickly.
Wrangler know you and your mom are in our prayers today.
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I want to let everyone know that my mom passed away this morning.

I want to express to all of you my thanks and appreciation for all of the support, advice and kind words.

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Wrangler, I think I can safely say that your love, deep affection and determined efforts to keep your Mom comfortable in such anguishing times touched all of us here, even to the point that now, in some small way, we share your sorrow.

As a stranger and as family, I am so sorry Wrangler.
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Oh Wrangler. I'm so very sorry to hear this. My heart is with you and your family. You have been with your mom thick and thin through this. You gave it your all to be there for and with her and she knew that and you know that. But that doesn't take away the hurt and loss. My heart is with you and your family tonight.
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I want to let everyone know that my mom passed away this morning.

I want to express to all of you my thanks and appreciation for all of the support, advice and kind words.

~W
Awww, Wrangler...I am heartbroken. You have to know deep inside that your mom fought as long as she could, and because of you, she was able to do just that. You did everything right by her, and no one could have done anymore that you so unselfishly gave to her!

She is always going to live inside you & your heart. I know there are no words, but do know you are in my heart & my thoughts always...more so now. (((((((((((((((((W))))))))))))))))).

My deepest sympathies & condolences to you & your family, Wrang!

Take care my friend!!
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