Breaking The Stereotype!

[Gayla]

I saw a thread similar to this on another (no, not that one) site and thought it would fit in quite well here.

I am a firm believer in the theory that what we wear, say, think, do, like/dislike does not make us butch or femme. While I don't see it much here these days, there is still the occasional "That's not [butch/femme/trans/etc]" in reference to something one may say. I still have moments when I cringe after hitting the submit button on a post because I realized that someone may read it and think "That's not very butch!". It's almost impossible to not buy into it in some way when it's been such a huge part of our culture for so long. But the truth is, I'm not a stereotype. There many things I do, and don't do, that could be seen as un-butch. There are many things my partner does that could be seen as un-femme. I think it's time we owned up to our differences and celebrate these things are make us individuals and not just a stereotype!

So, without qualification or justification (or fear of ridicule*) please share with us those things about you that break the stereotype!


*I would really like this to be a fun, perhaps silly, maybe empowering, definitely enlightening thread. If it gets ugly, I will personally drive down to The PDX and hold a puppy hostage until June hits the delete button.

[Queerasfck]

Hi I'm E, I'm butch. I can't change my oil and have never changed a tire and I'm okay with that.

[Gayla]

~ I do not change my own oil.

~ I knit.

~ I'm not really fond of fire and do not grill, use the fireplace, make campfires.

~ My fun reading is mostly books found in the Romance section of your local bookstore.

~ I like chick flicks.

~ I've had a life long crush on Robert Redford because he looks so damn good in a cowboy hat.

~ I own women's shoes.

[apretty]

Hi I'm E, I'm butch. I can't change my oil and have never changed a tire and I'm okay with that.

that's HOT!

(my dad made me change my oil at 16--you're really not missing much)

[UofMfan]

Hi, I'm June and I'm a Femme. I stuck my hand up a chicken butt this week and want everyone to appreciate this as a traditionally Butch thing to do, but I broke through the stereotypes and just went for it.

:gimmehug:

Oh you trailblazer!

Hi, I am butch, I can change the oil, tires and the engine if need be, but I rather pay someone else to do it as my time is very valuable.

I scream "like a girl" (maybe because I once was one) when I unexpectedly find large moths in my apartment.

That is all I am willing to share right now and only because I don't want any puppies to be kidnapped or hurt during this exercise.

[SassyLeo]

I'm femme

I can and have assembled furniture

When I was in CA visiting my mom, I troubleshot/repaired and set-up my mom's laptop and wifi (including taking her to Fry's to purchase RAM and then installing it for her)

I just went shopping with Erin at the Leatherman Warehouse sale and purchased several tools for myself (and for gifts)

I kill the spiders in the house

I can dead lift 130 lbs

:balloon:

[betenoire]

My name is Brandy. I am Femme. I think performing cunnilingus is fun.

I also pick my nose (it gets itchy up there, fuck off!) like reptiles and amphibians a whole lot, am loud and opinionated, and once punched someone at a bar cuz she sloshed beer on me.

[Gayla]

Oh you trailblazer!

I can change the oil, tires and the engine if need be, but I rather pay someone else to do it as my time is very valuable.

I scream "like a girl" (maybe because I once was one) when I unexpectedly find large moths in my apartment.

That is all I am willing to share right now and only because I don't want any puppies to be kidnapped or hurt during this exercise.

Thanks for playing but... the bold parts above are what I meant when I asked people not to qualify or justify. It's really hard for me not to do. "I own womens shoes." (but only two pairs and that's because I kinda have to for work blah blah blah). The reasons why don't matter and it doesn't make me "less butch". I guess I'm just challenging people to not worry about perception and just be honest. My hope is that someone may come to this site, confused because they think they're butch but wear women's underwear, and find a place where they can discover that's ok.

[apretty]

i will drive through alleys and swerve off of the road to check out something that someone's discarded. also, i'd race you to a dumpster.

just now we were picking up e's truck and i 'caught' myself walking 5 steps ahead and readying myself to deal with talking to the mechanic, looking over the bill, whatever the stuff is that you do--if it's your truck. (not sure if that speaks to my femme-ID or it just means i'm controlling/bossy but it's typical-me)

[Mitmo01]

I cry like and wail and hurt at things like hurt animals or crying little kids or if i feel sad--i used ot hate feeling so sensitive and i always have to fight that voice inside that says stop crying you look stoopid

My Woman is the Dom and i like it that way--bossy women are hot

I have long curly hair and it will always be long i wish i could dread it --hey im a beach bum from hawaii and my hair has always been long and usually bleacehd from the sun if i had my way lol

my underwear is like the el cheapo hanes from wally world in all kinds of fantastic colors because i dont really give a fuck about what i wear underneath my clothes since they dont usually stay on long anyway lol and the people that i care about dont give a fuck what i wear underneath my clothes lolol

I do not own womens shoes and no womens clothes but mah woman can rock the hell outta a skirt lol

I wouldnt change the oil on my car for anything id rather someone else do it

but i can change a tire and i can lift heavy shit when i want but im a lazy fucka

[JustJo]

I'm Jo and femme...

I own and use a snowblower. When the electric starter died I just started using the pull-start.

I remodeled my home office - including hanging sheet rock, framing in a window and moving all the furniture alone. This included using power tools...which I own.

I've never had my hand up a chicken, but have had my entire arm up a pregnant cow more times than I can count. Smallest hands on the dairy...tag, I'm it.

When it's time to put the air conditioner in the bedroom window, I just carry it up to the second floor from the basement. It weighs about 60 lbs.

I have ridden a bull. I did not make it to the buzzer.

[apretty]

i want one of these:

http://www.zazbot.com/bobcatparts/bobcat-s130.jpg

[scootebaby]

Hi, I'm June and I'm a Femme. I stuck my hand up a chicken butt this week and want everyone to appreciate this as a traditionally Butch thing to do, but I broke through the stereotypes and just went for it.

:gimmehug:

its supposed to be a hand??? well that explains the confusion of my butchness lol


[B]of course it could also be bc...
i dont know how to change oil in my car
i wont change the tire on my car unless i HAVE to
ive had a huge crush on patrick swayze since...always :drool:
i scream like a girly girl when i see a snake
i hate to break or chip a nail(not long just short and nice)
im not even close to be mechanically inclined
just to name a few...wpouldnt want to lose my butch card altogether..:simplelaugh:[/B

[scootebaby]

I'm Jo and femme...
I have ridden a bull. I did not make it to the buzzer.

awww honey i told you we didnt NEED that buzzer! lol


oh wait this is "break the stereotype"...habit sorry! please continue

[SuperFemme]

I have changed my oil.
I do my own taxes.
I boss everyone around.
I am the disciplinarian in my home.
I barter with sales people/plumbers/technicians/mechanics
I belong to MENSA
I was a project manager in a male dominate workplace
I assemble furniture, electronics and troubleshoot all the repairable stuff here.
I read instructions.
I ask directions.

[SassyLeo]

i want one of these:

http://www.zazbot.com/bobcatparts/bobcat-s130.jpg
OOOOH imagine the FUN you could have in that?!

My grandparents lived in the Sierra Nevadas... my poppy had one of these:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/3725483588_cc56096aac.jpg

Though he used it to go out in the woods of their land, so it was not as nice as this one.

I always told him that I wanted it. If he ever decided to get rid of it...to tell me!

He sold it and then he died a couple years ago.

I still want one.

[Mitmo01]

oh yeah i forgot i will run and hide and go into spasms when spiders or wasps or hornets are in my vicinity

mah woman has had to protect me many times from the evil creatures and yes i can scream loudly when they come near me although i always try to run away first lol

[Massive]

Let's see:
I sew.
I make jewelry.
I don't follow sports, they bore Me to death, like I'll fall asleep, deliberately if you try to make Me watch it.
I don't do anything mechanical.
I cry watching shows about animal cruelty and I always cry when the Ewoks friend dies in Return of the Jedi, every single time ...
I love the colour pink, I even had hot pink hair up until recently.
I write poetry for My babygirl.
I admit to always feeling happy whenever the good guy gets the girl in a movie.
I use hand lotion, frequently, and if my fingernails are in a sorry state, I use clear nail polish on them.
That's all I can think of for now, I'm sure I'll have more to add at a later date though.

[Gayla]

~ I bake.

~ I talk. A lot.

~ I like fruity drinks served in coconut shells with little paper umbrellas.

[Rook]

hmm...
gonna give this a shot...

♦ I panic when I see hornets/wasps/yellow jackets real close by....I don't "Squeak", or "Scream all Girly"....but you'll Definitely know, w/o a shred of Doubt

♦ I will Coddle random furcritters, and baby talk....

♦ Not fond of Camping in the Forest...

♦ Although I enjoy Surfing, I prefer a very Chlorinated Pool {less sharks, y'know?}

♦ I'm really picky about my shampoo/conditioner/body-hand soaps....And clothes detergents....

♦ I'll spend Lots of time in a Greenhouse/Flower Store...

♦ Occasionally, instead of Home Improv. area, you'll probably find me in the baby/toddler area lost in thought over what I'd purchase IF i ever had kids...

♦ My bedsheets have Got to be clean, and soft and very Warm, occasionally, I'll pick Light colours...If I can afford egyptian cotton 400 + thread CT., I'll be on cloud 9 for weeks.

♦ Don't know much about car maintenance..

♦ Even less of Plumbing...

♦ Don't even try to ask me to repair anything {unless u have the # of a Pro or an Explicit Manual}...

♦ I'm a good Cook, and I luv makin desserts...

♦ I like all sorts of Ballads, Power Ballads, Love Songs, Classics, Sexy stuph etc etc....

{i'm sure there's more...but..for now...meh}

:happyjump:

[Guy]

I can operate a vacuum and an iron but I still have a lil trouble turning on the stove.

I suck at math

I use deodorant

[Daryn]

I am GQ guy and

I have changed my own oil but I prefer not too
I like to cook and am pretty good at it
I care about aesthetics and art
Snakes freak me out
I *hate* plumbing (but will do it if I must)
I am not much of a handyman
I like flowers and flower arranging
I write pretty emotional poetry
I have been known change my shirt 10 times if I am getting ready to go out
I am competent at math but it bores me to freaking tears
I finally embraced that my ideal vocal range is coloratura soprano

[little man]

mice, bugs and snakes freak me out...yes, i squeal and go the other way

i'm a good cook

i've learned to enjoy baking...i make a fine, fine sweet potato pie and can rock some baklava

i can sew (i have plans to make obnoxiously bright hawaiian shirts for myself)

i dislike working on cars

i enjoy decorating, arranging furniture and artsy stuff

i prefer romantic comedies and weep copiously at the sad parts (and the happy parts)

i enjoy having dinner parties and set a lovely table (although i cannot be in charge of the guest list)

i'm not always very good at opening jars

i am nurturing by nature

i'm really good at laundry and i enjoy ironing

[Beau]

I really don't understand how copping to stereotypical behaviors of male (if you're femme) or female (if you're butch) is breaking down any stereotypes at all. If anything, I believe it perpetuates the mindset that behaviors have some gender association.

I'm not trying to be a thread-kill or an asshole. I just. don't. get. it.

my existence is meant to break stereotypes,
Beau - butch, lesbian, woman, human being

[JustJo]

I really don't understand how copping to stereotypical behaviors of male (if you're femme) or female (if you're butch) is breaking down any stereotypes at all. If anything, I believe it perpetuates the mindset that behaviors have some gender association.

I'm not trying to be a thread-kill or an asshole. I just. don't. get. it.

my existence is meant to break stereotypes,
Beau - butch, lesbian, woman, human being


To me it's not about copping to behaviors, it's about celebrating the fact that these are all parts of me. The traditional and the not-so-traditional...and that's how I break the stereotype...just by being myself. :)

[Gayla]

I really don't understand how copping to stereotypical behaviors of male (if you're femme) or female (if you're butch) is breaking down any stereotypes at all. If anything, I believe it perpetuates the mindset that behaviors have some gender association.

I'm not trying to be a thread-kill or an asshole. I just. don't. get. it.

my existence is meant to break stereotypes,
Beau - butch, lesbian, woman, human being


Beau - My intent was not have have people "cop" to behavior of the opposite gender but to talk about the things they do that could be seen as "un" by other member's of this community. In the past, I've been told I was not butch enough because I have a girly name, have worked in a predominately female profession, like trashy romance novels and play female characters in video games.

None of these things make me "un-butch" or "less butch" although there are many people in our community that think butch and femme are about what someone wears, likes/dislikes, does, says, etc. My point is that it doesn't. As has been often said, even in a dress and heels, I'm still butch.

The things I like and don't like are just personal traits that make me an individual. I think it's important to celebrate those things in a space that does not often do so.

[Dylan]

I'm a man and...

I own a see through blouse

I also own the most fabulous, flaired-at-the-bottom, most colorfully striped pair of women's pants that go with the see through blouse, and I call them my Solstice Pants (but I can't fit into them anymore).

The fact that I can't wear my Solstice Pants makes me sad

I will stand quietly panicky in the background while Mahhh Woman kills any critters or removes any carcasses.

I hate to be the person or assumed person "manning" the BBQ at a cookout

I have the biggest crushes on: George Clooney, Paul Newman, Eddie Vedder, Robert Redford in any cowboy movie (but especially 'Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid"), Jude Law, and The Transporter Guy (among others)

I talk to plants and flowers in baby voice while I rub their little leaves

It's always been a dream of mine to be a backup dancer/singer for Aretha Franklin, and I've designed the outfit and choreographed the whole concert.

My backup dancer outfit is a fitted mini dress, preferably neon blue, lime green, or bright orange with wide white lapels and worn with white, knee high, patent leather go go boots with a thick, chunky 3ish inch heel

And I really have choreographed the entire show

If snakes get too close to me or surprise me outta nowhere, I scream and jump on whomever's closest

I gag if I have to empty the sink drain of food particles

I've slept with more men than I have women

I helped a femme fix MY tire today


Dylan...and I consider butch part of my gender identity

[Beau]

I appreciate your perspective on this, Gayla. I was just responding to how it read to me after viewing a page or so of posts that seem to revert to the "girls play with dolls"/"boys play with trucks" mindset.

I get that it's not okay for some in this community to think of butches as being associated with certain behaviors/activities (and the same for femmes). I still stand by my reaction that it perpetuates the notion that behaviors and activities have a gender association. They don't, and that's the only point I was trying to make.

I appreciate any effort to help others have a more expansive view of gender even if I don't see it happening in this way.

Beau - My intent was not have have people "cop" to behavior of the opposite gender but to talk about the things they do that could be seen as "un" by other member's of this community. In the past, I've been told I was not butch enough because I have a girly name, have worked in a predominately female profession, like trashy romance novels and play female characters in video games.

None of these things make me "un-butch" or "less butch" although there are many people in our community that think butch and femme are about what someone wears, likes/dislikes, does, says, etc. My point is that it doesn't. As has been often said, even in a dress and heels, I'm still butch.

The things I like and don't like are just personal traits that make me an individual. I think it's important to celebrate those things in a space that does not often do so.

[Dylan]

My backup dancer outfit is a fitted mini dress, preferably neon blue, lime green, or bright orange with wide white lapels and worn with white, knee high, patent leather go go boots with a thick, chunky 3ish inch heel



Oh, I left out the belt...a 2" to 3" wide, patent leather, white belt with stitching to match the dress (neon blue, orange, or lime green)


And A Neckerchief Tied To The Side,
Dylan

[Massive]

Have to add this now, My given name is Rose.
I embrace My name, I love it, and does it make me less or more than who I am? Fuck No. It's Me, My name, I love it, My Mum gave it to Me and I wouldn't change a damn thing about it.
Does it change who I am? Nope!
I am who I am, regardless of how I ID, what I wear, what I do in My day to day life ...
If someone thinks less of Me because I enjoy sewing or making jewelry, then it's on their own head, I do what I do because I like it, not because someone who doesn't know Me thinks it's wrong ...

[Jett]

I love shopping... especially for clothes... cause I'm a clothes whore.

It takes me a long ass time to get ready to go out for the eve...

I love long hot bathes

I like specialty drinks like mimosa's and margaritas, made just so. If I get grief from a bud, I like to reply... "nevermind that... we're finally alone..." and wink.

Junebugs make me dance and swear F*@% me! F*@% me! F*@%% me!

... and.. ok...

... I wear eyeliner, something I hadn't done for 20 years... I've been told me eyes are my best feature, so hell... I like it... I don't care.

[DapperButch]

Today I was sitting with a client (psychotherapy), and she told me that she was starting a business selling her cross stiching...

I thought back to my cross stiching a picture of a mouse holding a clarinet for my clarinet playing best friend in the 6th grade for Xmas (Mom's idea), and thought...I wonder if she still has that....I will need to call and ask...it is the only thing I ever cross stiched..

...and then I thought....hmmm...maybe I should try cross stiching again...maybe I would like it as an adult...

...then I realized that <cough>, my client had changed topics...

ETA: I just texted my clarinet playing friend....she does indeed still have the tiny 2x3 inch clarinet playing mouse in its little plastic frame. She has saved it all this time...we are now 40 years old!

[ravfem]

Have to add this now, My given name is Rose.
I embrace My name, I love it, and does it make me less or more than who I am? Fuck No. It's Me, My name, I love it, My Mum gave it to Me and I wouldn't change a damn thing about it.
Does it change who I am? Nope!
I am who I am, regardless of how I ID, what I wear, what I do in My day to day life ...
If someone thinks less of Me because I enjoy sewing or making jewelry, then it's on their own head, I do what I do because I like it, not because someone who doesn't know Me thinks it's wrong ...

i love it when Massi sends a text and signs it "Daddy Rose", makes my heart melt.

When i told someone Hys name, they responded, "oh, that's a really butch name," and laughed. i didn't understand her reaction because she is very outspoken about people not accepting her as the butch woman she is (and changed her name legally because it was too feminine). :confused:

i LOVE that Hy makes jewelry (ok, that could be because *i* am benefiting from that skill) and thank goodness Hy can sew, because i so cannot (and come to think of it, i'll be benefiting from that skill, too!). :cheer:

And, Hy ROCKS the pink hair, that's all i'm sayin. :awww:

Hys proud girl, rhonda
:byebye:

[Heart]

I'm a femme and I fuck women.

[Daryn]

Beau - My intent was not have have people "cop" to behavior of the opposite gender but to talk about the things they do that could be seen as "un" by other member's of this community. In the past, I've been told I was not butch enough because I have a girly name, have worked in a predominately female profession, like trashy romance novels and play female characters in video games.

None of these things make me "un-butch" or "less butch" although there are many people in our community that think butch and femme are about what someone wears, likes/dislikes, does, says, etc. My point is that it doesn't. As has been often said, even in a dress and heels, I'm still butch.

The things I like and don't like are just personal traits that make me an individual. I think it's important to celebrate those things in a space that does not often do so.

Here. Here.

A number (more than 5) of years ago, I got together with a group of b-f peeps around here to go fishing. I asked for help with something and got a raft if crap questioning my butchness and masculinity for asking for help. WTF? The cis-guys I work with ask for help from others when they need it, despite the whole guys never ask for directions (and yeah I will ask for directions rather than get lost or more lost) b.s.

Most cis guys worry about being perceived as male enough by their peers too. Why is it that we cannot just let people be?

[amiyesiam]

Hi I am a femme

I have never, ever, not once, in my life watched a chick flick willingly.
I do not watch lifetime or anything vagina vision like.
I don't watch romantic comedy's, love stories, etc

I am a sci fi, fantasy, action adventure kinda gal

I get ready to go out in 30 minutes

I don't go try on my whole closet to go out
I don't change my mind after I am dressed

I am not afraid of bugs, snakes or mice or rats (most of the time)

My decorating tastes run to simple, dark, basics , what would be considered masculine

I can change a tire


I find this thread very refreshing. I love it when people say this is who I am!!!!!!!!! diversity rocks!!!!!

[Rockinonahigh]

K i'll give it a try...

Being someone else was brave enough to go with real first names,i'll pitch mine out there.It's Mary Michael,most of my frinds and family call me by it tho some will call me Mike hear and there,I get some strange looks in gay bars when someone dose this..it use to bother for some reason,but now what the heck.

I hate spiders big time,if I see them first im ok,if not I sqeel like a girlie girl.

I love to cook and have ovr 60 cook books and colecting as many as I can.

can barely sew a button on but I do the best I can.

I hate to get my hands all messed up u can bet I keep them as nice as possable with hand cream.

I dont do work on cars/trucks even tho I know how.

I colect music boxes,wood carveings,figureines of wolves and eagles as well as have a hugh plate colection hanging at home from all over the world.

Ok now I have at least dented my butch card,but this is me.

[Corkey]

Hi, my name is Corkey and I hate spiders and mice and will climb up my wife to get away from them.
I love to garden and cook, grilling is life (don't judge me)
I am allergic to bees and anything that flies and stings, I will hurt you to get away from them.
I cry when any animal, mostly mammalian is hurt and have to turn away when watching other animals eat each other.
I am a softie when it comes to animals, but will cause a kid to cry if they act up and cause an animal harm.
I can change my oil, fix a flat and diagnose an engine problem. The AF wanted me to be an aircraft mechanic, but I chose to be a feminist and become one of the few (at the time) who were among the first flight to carry and use arms, in combat.
I love books and can do higher math only if interested, and yes I have to be interested to do so.
I cannot paint a flower, but the broad side of the barn looks lovely.
I love to work with my hands, but I cannot sew to save my life, yet can tie a bowline knot, go figure.
Oh and my wife burps louder than me. Hee hee!

[scootebaby]

i usually change 3 or 4 times b4 heading out..even just to hang out

i will model each outfit...checking to make sure it doesnt make my butt look too big

i love getting flowers

i detest sports.....unless there is money involved

[amiyesiam]

K i'll give it a try...



Ok now I have at least dented my butch card,but this is me.

The point of this is YOU DON"T lose your butch card. Who you are can not be taken away from you. Same goes for femmes and everyone else.

[scootebaby]

oh yeah i forgot...i cry everytime i see hooch die on Turner and Hooch...

actually i get misty eyed at all sad movies

tears streamed at "Reign Over Me"

my son loves to tell the story of me crying at the end of one of his pokemon movies....he was 4 dammit i was still emotional!

[Rockinonahigh]

Amiyesiam..Thank u so much for this statement,for years its been a lot hard to mesh all of me into who I now am,the journey over the years has been full of pot holes and mistakes as I have gone from a hard core gruff baby butch to a lot more mello person over the years,some things were done cause I thought thats what butches did or was expected from femmes,now im am just plane old me how ever that is.

[Rook]

Never really thought of those channels that way ......vaginavision.....this should be interesting next time I wonder what subject 'touched by an angel' tackles....or 'golden girls' :winky: :groucho:

If I had a quarter for every time I put up with stares and "butcher-than-thou" gripes, I'd be a fuckin' millionaire...

My high school girlfriend tried teaching me cross-stitch, and crochet...I would literally doze off....but then, she returned the favor by staring off in space when I tried teaching her Chess.....
I don't "cop" to stereotypes, if I like something, I'll do it, try it out, or stick with it...I very rarely do something, or wear something cuz it's "Expected" of me...
Don't get me wrong, I don't wear pastels, flowers or summer dresses -cringe-....But, I don't because that's not comfortable, in the slightest bit for me...Not because I'm stone butch and somewhere in b-f Canon it's etched in "Stone"{no pun} "Thou shalt always wear boxer-briefs, and pleated trousers!!"

I read in an article..there was a Drag King contest, one boi was watching a buncha giggling girls, one of 'em signed up, hy groaned saying "there goes the neighborhood", the girl got decked out, head to toes, looked like a Chicano drag king, pose and all, her friends squealed and she giggled, the boi shook hys head, and when she took to the Stage she actually won, and strutted off...When she got to the gathered crowd of friends, she hopped around squawking, very proud, the boi shook his head, clicking hys tongue & adjusting hys soft pack apparently, the author said "Eventually, hy'll understand"...

♦ I'm almost always entertained by bubbles...If I see one, I'll try to pop it after enjoying the visual...

♦ I lurv Butterflies {and some Moths}, in Old San Juan city there's a store/restaurant called "The Butterfly People", I would go there a lot, sometimes alone, sometimes with company..Most of their walls are covered with a wide variety of Butterflies...

♦ I also luv Angelic Art

♦ Most of my snail mail Will have stickers that reflect the Occasion or the Mood...Sometimes both...And my closest friends know better than to carelessly rip the envelope open...their floor will be covered with confetti of different designs...

♦ I'll spend most of my weekend mornings watching old favorite kiddie cartoons in my PJ's with cereal..{Flintstones, jetsons, Pink Panther, Garfield, Rocko's Modern Life, etc..} Unless I hafta run errands.

♦ While my style of clothing is a small reflection of who I am and how I portray myself, it's not the be-all-end-all...
I'll happily wear fleece pj bottoms with cupcakes -shrug-...

♦ I've had very long hair in the past....I only cut it cuz it's much easier to deal with, and comfortable...Sometimes...~glares @ bangs~

♦ I did try my damnedest not to cry during Hachiko A dog Story.....I did sniffle during Philadelphia....and I was a quiet mess during Schindler's List....


:boxers::boxers:

[Softly]

Hello! I am femme and...

I like to sit with my legs wide open
I am most comfortable in jeans and a t-shirt
I rarely wear make up
my nails are short and natural
I enjoy being the fucker (cock and all)
I haven't worn a dress in years
I know how to check my oil (but not change it)!
I prefer horror/gore over chick flicks
I HATE decorating things (apartment, bedroom, whatever)
I can get ready in half an hour
my hair is 90% of the time up in a pigtail
I say fuck a whole lot
I prefer wearing my "kicks" from KMART than I do my heels
I will kick someone in the face for fucking with my family/friends

*curtsy*

[blush]

I like sledgehammers.
Violent video games make me randy.

And I recently found Goof's DVD collection of "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch"

[Goofy]

I love sappy 70's music

I love to sing; in the shower, the car, poolside...whenever the mood strikes me

I love kids/young adult books...Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, Artemis Fowl, etc

I don't have the 'Sabrina the Teenage Witch' collection on DVD (yet), but I will watch it when I'm home sick since it comes on in the middle of the day

I've been known to cook dinner and do the dishes

[SuperFemme]

I like this thread, and it IS empowering to see how many of you don't feed into those pesky binary gender stereotypes.

That is the whole point, no? How ridiculous it is that a woman who changes oil isn't Femme? Or how a Butch who maybe likes doors held open for her/hym is somehow less Butch?

We are all human beings.

[AtLast]

oh yeah i forgot...i cry everytime i see hooch die on Turner and Hooch...



Oh, God, me too!!! I can't hardly watch it!

[BullDog]

I don't like dolphin shaped dildos.

[Rook]

K, for starters..
as a Butch...I am not 'just like men', I may be masculine, I may be emotionally TG, but physically I'm a womyn, true...
I don't act like a man, or what society deems is a mans behavior or mannerisms....
If a butch wore a long skirt, with pink blouse & heels, within the butch/femme community there are those who'd find it highly strange of That butch due to the common perception of a Butchs appearance and rejection of the typically feminine attire in favor of much more comfortable Gender neutral and / or masculine attire, nevermind the Reason why said individual wears it {it could be a mandatory uniform, they could be in the Closet, it could even be a cultural issue}...My mother's boyfriend{bio-male} once educated me {shock!!!} when I was 16...there's a difference between man, male, masculine...and woman, female, feminine....
One can be masculine w/o being physically a Man....And feminine w/o being a woman physically {MtF}, male and female are society binary to validate ones absolute Sex, not Gender.
When an individual is Intersex, that theory goes right out the window and makes a few people nervous, since they have no fuckin clue which Box to shove that individual in, oftentimes it won't matter either way, that person will choose for themself.
That stayed in my mind for some time...And every now and then I'll be reminded of it after a comment, remark, or snub...

{♦ Lovin the Femmes list here, almost as much as the Butches....}

[amiyesiam]

can we all sing She Bop by Cindy Lauper?

[Gayla]

I don't like dolphin shaped dildos.

Oh for fuck's sake. Can you just, for once, let it be about something other then your own agenda? If you're itching for a fight, go back to the war thread and respond to my post from last night.

[Corkey]

DO OVER! DO OVER!


Let's sing now :)

Kumbyah.... now your local weather on the 8's

[BullDog]

Oh for fuck's sake. Can you just, for once, let it be about something other then your own agenda? If you're itching for a fight, go back to the war thread and respond to my post from last night.

Um Gayla, I am a lesbian so I am supposed to like dolphins. I thought I was breaking a stereotype. It was supposed to be funny.

[Gayla]

Um Gayla, I am a lesbian so I am supposed to like dolphins. I thought I was breaking a stereotype. It was supposed to be funny.

Your silencing and dismissive attitudes towards any thread/post that doesn't specifically address your issues in the manner you want them addressed, stopped being funny to me a really long time ago. The saddest part is that somewhere in the back of my mind I've kind of been just waiting for you to show up and tell us all were doing it wrong. Again.

Done.

[Dylan]

Um Gayla, I am a lesbian so I am supposed to like dolphins. I thought I was breaking a stereotype. It was supposed to be funny.

I thought it was fucking hilarious


I Actually LOL-ed,
Dylan...rarely LOLs

[BullDog]

I thought it was fucking hilarious


I Actually LOL-ed,
Dylan...rarely LOLs

LOL, yep Dylan laughed first. I have a time stamp to prove it!

[AtLast]

Oh, yeah.. clothes shopping, love it! Love clothes and hats!

To be very honest, I do not like men's underwear much at all. Boxer briefs are OK, but I wear girl, cotton, high-cut briefs daily! You couldn't get me in a pair of tidy-whities... well, someone might be able too, but, it wouldn't be for my own sake.... and only once!

I don't pack. I tried it, don't care for it. Again, if requested, I might. But, maybe not.

I do wear some women's clothes mixed in with men’s. Funny, no one ever realizes this...

I shave my legs and underarms. And I can't stand facial hair on myself.

I am neat in terms of my home and can't stand dirty dishes sitting around. And I vacuum every day. Sometimes, twice, I have pets.

I hate working on cars, period!

I iron everything before going out, even if its just touching things up. And I take a long time to dress for a date or some special event. I like to look my best.

I wear a one-piece women's Speedo swim suit. I can't stand to swim in cut-offs and a T. I was a swimmer and played tennis in high school & college, and I'm still serious about doing the strokes right which you can't do with all that damn fabric!

I use tinted cover sometimes. Damn, skin!!!

I don't like to wear cologne. I never liked the smell of it when I was het and with men, so, why would I like it now and on my body?!

I wear regular bras most of the time. I have never bound my breasts and don't want to. I wear sports bras, too.

I can't stand my finger nails to be dirty.

Strapping is great when it is really a mutual desire, but not something I have to do! And I do not like realistic looking dildos. Oh, and I like penetration. So?

I am very, very sentimental and quite sensitive.

I don't hold back emotions. Well, unless I am around people that I don't want to share emotions with.

I carry a pack kind of purse most of the time because I don't like shoving everything in my pockets.

I love to cook.

I hate snakes and spiders.

...... Hummm... this felt good.....

[AtLast]

I thought it was fucking hilarious


I Actually LOL-ed,
Dylan...rarely LOLs

Oh, no! I said I didn't like to use realistic dildos! Am I in trouble???

What is very funny is that I read Bully's post and thought... what the fuck? They have dolfin dildoes? Hey, that isn't realistic....

Now I am really having a laugh at myself!!!

[BullDog]

Oh, no! I said I didn't like to use realistic dildos! Am I in trouble???

What is very funny is that I read Bully's post and thought... what the fuck? They have dolfin dildoes? Hey, that isn't realistic....

Now I am really having a laugh at myself!!!

AtLast a butch is supposed to like a "realistic" cock. A lesbian is supposed to like a dolphin dildo. What's a poor lesbian butch to do? :rofl:

[AtLast]

AtLast a butch is supposed to like a "realistic" cock. A lesbian is supposed to like a dolphin dildo. What's a poor lesbian butch to do? :rofl:

Dunno..... all this stuff to remember..... been such a long time since I shopped for a new one.... :( :poc-huh:

http://www.dildovalerie.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/horn-193x300.jpg

Compromise?

ROTF... I'd say a good compromise... Oh, no.... ya' think there will be more pics posted???

[BullDog]

http://www.dildovalerie.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/horn-193x300.jpg

Compromise?

Deep ridges and a nice lavender bag- perfect!

[Gayla]

I really don't want to see this die.

~ I like to scrapbook.

~ I drive a minivan and love it.

~ I have "lunch with the girls" at least once a month.

[AtLast]

I really don't want to see this die.

~ I like to scrapbook.

~ I drive a minivan and love it.

~ I have "lunch with the girls" at least once a month.


These are kewl! Arn't we a krazy bunch!?

[Random]

http://www.dildovalerie.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/horn-193x300.jpg

Compromise?

Is that a shiny Unicorn Horn?

[waxnrope]

might as well out myself, too ... Atlast did ... lol:

I learned to change the oil in my car, did it once, never did it again (we can't say why? aww, ok)
I can do some home repair, or minor construction, like sheetrock, electrical, finish carpentry, and, especially, tile. Don't ask me about plumbing ... too many pieces ... all I remember is that gas goes up and s#$t goes down ...
ahem, i LOVE to cook and friends love to come over to eat. I also love good wines and culinary toys.
I like to shop, am fussy about my clothes. Well, AtLast, I like boxers and find them comfy, but there are certain pants that I wear that I have to wear women's briefs. Sigh. I don't care for tighty whiteys ... except for using as a cock harness ...
I love to pack ...
about twice a year, I have my eyebrows waxed (now that's a hard NOT to explain ... geesh, such restrictions!)
I like to shop sometimes with a femme and get opinionated about her clothes.
I do sacred space design on request, and love to get into yards of fabric, suspended (no comment about suspension play, please :rofl:) and draped. I laugh at myself when doing this while waving my arms about like Robert Preston (?), who portrayed a drag queen, in Victor Victoria
I wear either women's "comfortable shoes" or men's shoes, which ever looks or fits my feet best
I am bi-dancial (dancual?) ... now, don't start a rumor, I am NOT bi (and, no, I don't have an issue with those who identify as such - it is just not who I am ...) in some dance genres ... it's what happens when you teach ... but am best as a lead. Sometimes when I am goofing around and following, I flap my arms around and look ridiculous as a parody of a queen.
I learned from watching an ex, and love to select and arrange flowers. I like to plant bulbs and other bits of things that grow in the yard.



don't have a clue why the last bit came under the shoe comment, < shrugs > but there you have it for now.

[Heart]

I don't wear pink
I don't wear stilettos
I don't wear glitter
I don't wear lipstick
I don't do burlesque
And I won't ever wear a sparkly cock.

[*Magic_and_Silk*]

I love to have my nails done. But, I don't because I love to garden more.

I love beautiful dresses. But, I don't wear dresses that often because it isn't practical.

I have repaired many things myself (toilets, garbage disposals, door knobs, flat tires) and would rather do it than call a repair person.

I do not like pink (unless it is hot pink and paired with black)!!

When I was a kid, I liked to play with Tonka trucks more than Barbies because I could dig holes in the dirt with them (In my world, Barbie slept with Summer and not Ken).

I LOVE the smell of Auto Repair shops and gun oil...And if a butch smells like an Auto Repair shop or gun oil, it drives... me... CRAZY!:drool:

I enjoy hunting and fishing and don't mind baiting my own hook with live bait or cleaning the fish.

[Venus007]

- I cannot abide pink, sparkly, froofy, frothy, girly anything, and hello kitty should give it up and say good bye. (of course I am speaking from my me place(I live in fear of the kittyites))

-I hate to shop

-I really enjoy working on my car and can do my own breaks and rotors, change my own oil, replace my own starter, I own a timing gun so I can do my own tune ups. The problem is that with the newer cars the computers are a racket designed to make you go to a mechanic, grumble grumble grumble

-I love math and do it in my head to help calm me down if I am tense

-I am rational and logical

-I love being out in the woods alone with my dog (bring on the bugs, dirt and snakes)

-I really like reptiles and have had several for pets not to mention I encourage the wonton breeding of the lizards that live on my porch by setting out trays of mealworms and playing Barry White on the stereo

-I am fascinated by bugs (it's their specialty that gets me) and have a collection of them under glass in a frame in my room.

-I strap and have on packed in public in a skirt none the less :eyebrow:

[Daryn]

6lE6Htee0sA

Airsupply... Oh no you din't. :jester::bigcry:

[FutureNOChef]

That's awesome!!! & you know what I would do it in stilletos. You Rock!!!

[FutureNOChef]

After reading most of the posts...I really don't think there is a sterotype here. We all are "outside the box". I as a "femme" do wear my jeans, t's & ballcaps because they are comfortable. However I do wear my lace bras & undies under because I love the feel & love being a woman. I admire, fantasize, drool over a striking Butch, but will also, but don't want to do her, give props to a good looking, well put together femme. :rrose: I wear, proudly, my stilletos because I can & actually can walk, dance &...well nevermind, that's getting off the subject. We are who we are, we are comfortable in what we wear & do...That's all that matters. I don't think it should come down to "you are butch...go change the oil" or "your the femme...why aren't you in making dinner". All we can hope for is to be happy with ourselves & find someone who complements us, as we do them, in that way.

:waitinggirl:

[The_Lady_Snow]

I hate shopping

I am the boss

I am not into pink

I don't likey any kind of shower gathering, baby showers, wedding showers, bridal showers

I hate dressing up

I hate romantic movies

I can change my oil but, why I can have someone else do it.

I prefer (combat) boots to heels

I have a cock

I love my cock

I love NASCAR, football, and soccer

I hate Lifetime TV

I like snakes

If something goes wrong, my mom calls me and I fix it

I am the family Enforcer on all sides

I suck at baking:rant:

I am Daddy

[scootebaby]

I don't like dolphin shaped dildos.

they make those??? holy hell....wonder if it could be displayed


yeah typical lesbian here..i LOVE dolphins--bradford exchange has made a fortune off of me. (didnt realize it was a lesbian thing tho to like dolphins)

i used to wear girl panties but couldnt find ones to fit just right...finally ran across body glove(men panties) cant even tell they are guys..and oooooooh so soft

i cant drive a truck--nor want one

i wore cowboy boots for about2 yrs in mid 90s...so not a boot fan of any kind

and my son tells me a lot if i do something outside the "norm"---"thats not very butch mom" lol

[CherylNYC]

Stonefemme lesbian here.

I own and repair all seven motorcycles in my backyard.

I ride said motorcycles like an exuberant, half-mad barbarian.

I love to ride said motorcycles on the racetrack. I especially love passing the boy-racer wanna-be's who think girls can't ride.

My hair is long, but mostly styled by my helmet.

I dress in high fetish or vintage high fashion when it suits the occasion, but you're far more likely to find me in jeans and engineer boots with dirt and oil under my fingernails. (It's not as awful as it sounds for my playmates because I'm a stonefemme. Anyway, I clean up well.)

I have worked as a Union carpenter/stagehand. Now I work as a sculptor which means my work clothes are so encrusted with gak that a homeless person would not even touch them.

I have spent a small fortune on my power tools.

I do all home repair except plumbing. EEEEEWWWWWW!

I catch and kill bugs and rodents

I love to camp.

I am a lesbian who does not like dolphin shaped dildos, but I will drop to my knees in a heartbeat for the right butch cock.

[Jett]

they make those??? holy hell....wonder if it could be displayed

http://www.vitadiscount.com/vitasprings/dolphin-stub-m-blue-fun-factory.jpg



ETA: Oops I was editing and lost my "displayable"! Here it is again, and really hope this lamp was used according to manufacturers recommendations! (or at least unplugged :l )

http://static.flickr.com/59/212810811_c9cac4dde4.jpg

[Rook]

hmm...
You'd think when someone mentions Dolphin dildo, some outsider might say "aquatic bestiality?" :computer2:
Up until 5 years ago, i was clueless about dolphin dildoes {heard of 'em, never seen}....
This thread enlightened me that as a lesbian, i'm supposed to love 'em..
:sushi: :blah:

[scootebaby]

http://www.vitadiscount.com/vitasprings/dolphin-stub-m-blue-fun-factory.jpg

lmao thanks Metro..and it does look displayable

[blush]

I have worked as a Union carpenter/stagehand.


I read this as Unicorn. Too many pictures of dildo unicorn horns...

Carry on...

[JustJo]

lmao thanks Metro..and it does look displayable

We don't have to put it in the living room do we baby? :|
...just wondering how I'll explain the displayable dolphin dildo to our mothers when they visit....

[scootebaby]

We don't have to put it in the living room do we baby? :|
...just wondering how I'll explain the displayable dolphin dildo to our mothers when they visit....

now honey...u know very well both of our mothers will probably pick it up and stroke it as they admire it...totally oblivious to its true use



sorry for derail folks :jester:

[Dylan]

Unless Mom's got one too?


Breaking The Stereotype Of Cis, Straight Moms Across The Globe,
Dylan

[Rook]

seriously, this whole dolphin thing reminds me of a part in "Made of Honor", a botched bachelorette party, turned out to be a sex-toy "fuckerware" party, the Grandmother figured a set of glow-in-the-dark anal Beads was a necklace.....
Wore to the wedding also.. :tea:
:blink:

[JustJo]

seriously, this whole dolphin thing reminds me of a part in "Made of Honor", a botched bachelorette party, turned out to be a sex-toy "fuckerware" party, the Grandmother figured a set of glow-in-the-dark anal Beads was a necklace.....
Wore to the wedding also.. :tea:
:blink:

My mother would do that :|

So...to make amends for my derail...here's some more....

I prefer plain ol' chapstick to lipstick. if I wear lipstick, it will not be red, ever.

I wore cowboy boots, and english riding boots, and rubber "mucking out the stalls" boots most of my young years...I like boots.

I do like pink, and lavendar....however, I don't care for glitter, sparkly stuff, or frilly things in general.

One of my favorite toys is the pressure washer (for the house...makes it all clean and nice and washes off all the grime the cars stir up from the street).

I am not afraid of snakes...in fact I was rather enjoying a reptile exhibit just this morning with a variety of snakes (and a blue-tongued skink, which was very cool). I don't want to handle them, but I don't mind them.

I am extremely analytical when it comes to work. Professionally, I am a project manager - and it's my responsibility to marshall diverse groups of people that don't agree and are too busy to take on more work (and that I ask to do just that) towards a common goal. I rock my job.

And, while I tihnk dolphins are beautiful I am inordinately fond of giraffes. The idea of a giraffe dildo, however, just scares me. :|
(sorry honey, couldn't resist :giggle: )

[BullDog]

My mother would do that :|

So...to make amends for my derail...here's some more....

I prefer plain ol' chapstick to lipstick. if I wear lipstick, it will not be red, ever.

I wore cowboy boots, and english riding boots, and rubber "mucking out the stalls" boots most of my young years...I like boots.

I do like pink, and lavendar....however, I don't care for glitter, sparkly stuff, or frilly things in general.

One of my favorite toys is the pressure washer (for the house...makes it all clean and nice and washes off all the grime the cars stir up from the street).

I am not afraid of snakes...in fact I was rather enjoying a reptile exhibit just this morning with a variety of snakes (and a blue-tongued skink, which was very cool). I don't want to handle them, but I don't mind them.

I am extremely analytical when it comes to work. Professionally, I am a project manager - and it's my responsibility to marshall diverse groups of people that don't agree and are too busy to take on more work (and that I ask to do just that) towards a common goal. I rock my job.

And, while I tihnk dolphins are beautiful I am inordinately fond of giraffes. The idea of a giraffe dildo, however, just scares me. :|
(sorry honey, couldn't resist :giggle: )

I love giraffes too! I am not a knick knacky type, but I do have a few giraffe things people have given me. I have a giraffe made out of rope and one that is metal.

[scootebaby]

And, while I tihnk dolphins are beautiful I am inordinately fond of giraffes. The idea of a giraffe dildo, however, just scares me. :|
(sorry honey, couldn't resist :giggle: ) :|


are you trying to fool me or the fine folk of this site with that big ol fat lie???

[Emmy]

Shopping, especially in malls - buzzy, flickery fluorescent lighting! - usually makes me wanna die.

[Dylan]

I eat salads

And I like banana daiquiris with whipped cream and umbrellas and a whole fruit salad adorning the glass


Dylan

[Corkey]

I eat salads

And I like banana daiquiris with whipped cream and umbrellas and a whole fruit salad adorning the glass


Dylan

Now that sounds good! Got an extra?

[Dylan]

Now that sounds good! Got an extra?

Come to Austin!


Weeeeeeeeee Havvvvvvvvvvvvve A Blennnnnnnnnnnn-der (we can make all you want, and bananas are the cheapest thing around),
Dylan

[Corkey]

Come to Austin!


Weeeeeeeeee Havvvvvvvvvvvvve A Blennnnnnnnnnnn-der (we can make all you want, and bananas are the cheapest thing around),
Dylan

Hahaha the last time I set foot in Tex as was the last time I set foot in Tex as. But thanks for the offer LOL

[Rook]

• I'm a perpetual Mallrat...
My hangout was "Plaza Las Americas", I knew when the 'Geezers'{no offense} would show up for their Morning Walk n Kvetch, I knew the perfect "pick-up" spots, and of course where to go for "Privacy", I also knew what food place was worth every penny, and which to avoid like the fucking PLAGUE....

• I'll happily watch a Romantic Comedy or DocuDrama any day of the week and twice on Sunday over Action/Adventure....

• Love Dancing, like someone who posted here earlier, I can be a Bi-Dancer{NOT bi, nothing against bi, just..not my orientation}, and yes, like the other Poster, for comic relief, I'll exaggerate a few moves....

• The very rare few times I've received flowers , after the surprise wears off, I actually stare and smile, I think I still have 2 flowers dried in a book...

• I enjoy Lavender scented Baths...

• Although I'll stick Mostly to Jack Daniels, Cutty Sark, and the occasional Patrón Silver, I looooove a good "fancy" cocktail...Bloody Mary, Tequila Sunrise, Appletini & Sangria are top faves...

[Rockinonahigh]

A fue years ago I was in Ft.Worth for a big horse show and had a whole day and night I was free to just relax.A bunch of us got together and went to some bar I cant remember the name of to save my life,prolly good I cant to tell the truth.I tryed a tuquila sunrise ..now I remember the first one but after that not so much,lets just say some where there is a vidio of me on top of the bar dancing with a hot lady,yep it was one of those dirty danceing things.I when I saw the tape I thought I would just die of embarasment cause there were ppl I would rather not see me in such a state there as well.I think I got rid of all the copyies but herd there is one more somewhere...That was then this is now...heck I would like to see it again cause I never thought I could move like that.

[Daryn]

Somewhere back when I was in my 30s, my very femme, former beauty queen gf threw me a birthday party and got me drunk enough to get her old tiara on my head and take photos. I've actually shown a few folks the photos (well before they got lost in a move). She also had her scarey snake out of its cage that night too.

[Andrew, Jr.]

How I break the ftm stereotypes:

*I tried to learn to ride a motorcycle and nearly took out my life, but those around me. However, I love motorcycles.

*I eat salads and lots of fruit.

*I love to get snail mail, packages, and flowers. OMG, flowers. :bunchflowers:

*I cry during movies. I am very emotional, & sensative.

*I love and adore angels.

*I am not aggressive. I love :awww: aggressive queer femmes, but not those who claim the title of Daddy in life. Oh hell no.

*I don't have a man-cave. I have a work bench and tools. :hangloose:

*I love to dance close.

*I am a clothes horse.

*I love to dress up Dino. :doghead:

*I love lavender. I planted a ton of it in my backyard, but it died.

*I hate snakes, spiders, grasshoppers, and insects. I cover them up with glasses, and let my neighbor free them outdoors or kill them or do whatever with them.

*I cannot read a map or follow directions. It is not in my DNA.

*I get a manicure after I use my hands to plant and work in my garden and get dirt and manure up under my nailbed.

*I love to go to a spa.

[Arwen]

I can pitch a tent in the dark.
I probably know how to tie more knots than most people who aren't still in Scouting.
I can and will (and have) alpha roll a 190# dog and win.
I can and will (and have) catch a snake in the wild.
I used to be able to lift up to a 120# dog.
I can saddle my own horse.
I like my steak slightly mooing.
I can confront people on their bullshit, behind-your-back crap.
I can own up to being dead wrong and apologize.
I can rock a flannel shirt.
When I go to the mall, I go in and get what I want and leave.
I can gut and clean my own fish as well as fry it up.
I can state my opinion and not roll over because it upsets someone else.

[Rockinonahigh]

Afternoon everyone,hope ur day is good.I thought I would add a fur mor goodies to the list.

I cry at sad movies,red nose and all.
Love to be out camping but will bring a camp cot and blowup mattress to sleep on cause my back couldnt take sleeping on the ground anymore
love roses but have a black thumb so I cant grow a weed if I tryed.
Often I wonder how I got to this stage of my life as well as I have,just lucky I gess.
I have raised orphan fur kids on a bottle, when they r really tiny keep them in my shirt pocket to stay warm...I get some strange looks when they start moveing around.
I always have loved misic but cant play a note or cary a tune in a bucket.
Many times I have often wondered how I come across to other ppl,good bad or otherwise.Not long ago I accidently met someone at a local resturant that I sorta know from an online site and there reaction was ...Your so and so with a straneg look on there face.Really this isnt the first time this has happen
Im an old softie but not any kind of push over,Id rather be a peace maker if possable.

[Gayla]

*I am not aggressive. I love :awww: aggressive queer femmes, but not those who claim the title of Daddy in life. Oh hell no.



I've read this several different times. I had to really think about if I wanted to say anything. I didn't really want this to be a discussion kind of thread but, I choose not to let this just pass by.

Andrew - I appreciate your participation in this thread but I don't understand this. The words above, in bold, not only go against the spirit of the thread but they go so far beyond "qualifying and justifying" to a level that I just find offensive. Personal preference is one thing, and I probably would have just let it go, but adding the "Oh hell no" part at the end just crossed a line for me.

My point in creating this thread was to try to counteract some of the "x is ok but y isn't" crap that many of us face almost everyday. In one quick comment you've managed to do exactly that - liking X is ok... but only if they're not Y. And you did it in a way that feels really unnecessary and just plain icky to me.

[scootebaby]

sometimes i stomp my foot if really frustrated or angry!

[SuperFemme]

one time? i farted and burped.
without using terms like "fluff" and "frog".

[Queerasfck]

I've read this several different times. I had to really think about if I wanted to say anything. I didn't really want this to be a discussion kind of thread but, I choose not to let this just pass by.

Andrew - I appreciate your participation in this thread but I don't understand this. The words above, in bold, not only go against the spirit of the thread but they go so far beyond "qualifying and justifying" to a level that I just find offensive. Personal preference is one thing, and I probably would have just let it go, but adding the "Oh hell no" part at the end just crossed a line for me.

My point in creating this thread was to try to counteract some of the "x is ok but y isn't" crap that many of us face almost everyday. In one quick comment you've managed to do exactly that - liking X is ok... but only if they're not Y. And you did it in a way that feels really unnecessary and just plain icky to me.

I am glad you brought this up. I don't see the point of putting down people when explaining how 'you break stereotypes'.

[scootebaby]

one time? i farted and burped.
without using terms like "fluff" and "frog".

she said fluff and frog :cracked::rofl:

[BoDy*ShOt]

i am a jeans (or cutoff shorts) & barefoot, flipflops, or sandals and tanktop kinda girl; i am NOT a housekeeper; i like putting stuff together (i don't like putting stuff together with someone though) and working on a car; i like paying; i like opening the door for someone; i like doing yardwork (but don't like gardening); i don't like wearing heels most days (though i lust after them LOL); i'm not a fan of pink; i loathe shopping; and i rarely paint my nails

:lips:

[SuperFemme]

she said fluff and frog :cracked::rofl:
what? stop laughing. :fastdraq:

[princessbelle]

I can't cook
I like camping
I like fishing
I could never be a "stay at home" person. I will always work, health provided.
I smoke
I have been known to cuss and I certainly can get right back with ya if ya dish it out.
I don't drink often, but when I do, I can slam tequilla like no body's bees wax.

[scootebaby]

:fart: omg you all hear that frog??????

[SuperFemme]

i also happen to have an amazing right hook. :seeingstars:

[scootebaby]

i also happen to have an amazing right hook. :seeingstars:


its called breaking the stereotype,NOT breaking a jaw...dayuuuuuum lol

[SuperFemme]

oh. oopsie.

one time i spit. :mohawk:

[Daryn]

*I tried to learn to ride a motorcycle and nearly took out my life, but those around me. However, I love motorcycles.



Ugh. I am reminded of crashing my father's brand new bike into a brick wall (flipping stiff clutch and mouthy father) the week I was learning to ride many decades ago... I like fast cars much better thanks... no bruises and less chance of dying.

[The_Lady_Snow]

I've read this several different times. I had to really think about if I wanted to say anything. I didn't really want this to be a discussion kind of thread but, I choose not to let this just pass by.

Andrew - I appreciate your participation in this thread but I don't understand this. The words above, in bold, not only go against the spirit of the thread but they go so far beyond "qualifying and justifying" to a level that I just find offensive. Personal preference is one thing, and I probably would have just let it go, but adding the "Oh hell no" part at the end just crossed a line for me.

My point in creating this thread was to try to counteract some of the "x is ok but y isn't" crap that many of us face almost everyday. In one quick comment you've managed to do exactly that - liking X is ok... but only if they're not Y. And you did it in a way that feels really unnecessary and just plain icky to me.


Thank you gayla for addressing this... I am a Daddy, a Femme Daddy, and well we kinda know that is a breaking of the stereoptype.

I am speaking for all the Femme Daddy's I know who would be offended..

It sucks when someone comes in and tries to put us down for who we are..

Just sayin

[Andrew, Jr.]

Gayla,

My apologies to you and anyone I offended. I tried to come back and erase it, but it was too late to do so.

Namaste,
Andrew


Daryn,

I was in Florida on vacation. My stepfather bought a brand new Harley. Now, he was about 6' tall and I am short 5'4". With that said, the bike was too big for me to even reach the ground with my foot. I have no clue as to how I managed not to kill myself or anyone else that day. I have some polaroids from that famous day. And the beautiful bike before I rode it. At the funeral of his ex-wife, I had so many folks come up to me and talk about that Harley, and that famous ride I took - lol.

[Gayla]

[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Blue"]
My apologies to you and anyone I offended. I tried to come back and erase it, but it was too late to do so.


My question is, why post it in the first place?

[The_Lady_Snow]

My question is, why post it in the first place?

*raises hand*

I can answer I can answer!!!!

[UofMfan]

My question is, why post it in the first place?

MODERATION:

Are you moderating this thread?

Andrew has apologized, can we go back to the spirit of the thread?

Thank you.

[Gayla]

MODERATION:

Are you moderating this thread?

Andrew has apologized, can we go back to the spirit of the thread?

Thank you.

Nope. I'm not moderating.

The whole point of the thread was to break the stereotypes without justification and qualification. I'm trying to understand why it's so hard for people to just say X without adding Y. I know why it's hard for me. I would like to know why it's hard for other people.

[UofMfan]

Nope. I'm not moderating.

The whole point of the thread was to break the stereotypes without justification and qualification. I'm trying to understand why it's so hard for people to just say X without adding Y. I know why it's hard for me. I would like to know why it's hard for other people.

MODERATION:

Yes I know, you pointed that to me when I posted earlier.

What you just did had nothing to do with how you want to MANAGE your thread. That is very evident, so please don't even go there.

If you want to discuss my moderation I will be more than willing to do so via PM.

Thank you.

[The_Lady_Snow]

I break a stereotype everyday I wake up..

I am a loud, opinionated, woman....

In some eyes, women are to be demure....

I am proud of breaking that stereotype every day...

:)

[Massive]

I love cooking.
I love giving massages.
I love getting flowers.
I call myself a dyke, etc, but I'm proud of having tits.
I always apologise if I burp, even if I'm online and nobody can hear me.
I dye my hair, and I use bright colours ...
I will always stop and ooh and aww at a cute kitten/cat/puppy/dog etc

[Martina]

For years i spent most of my free time hanging out with straight white guys in bars and clubs listening to altcountry bands (Steve Earle, Lucinda Williams -- that kind of thing).

My CD's are more important than my shoes or anything i wear.

i wear a few outfits all the time -- rotating. i never have a lot of clothes.

i date femmes as well as butches. i love the butch-femme dynamic. It is effing HOT, but it's not the only dynamic that gets me hot.

i usually decorate my apartments in a sort of sophomore male's dorm room aesthetic.

i pay attention to the people who interest me. i will forget even extremely cute butches' names if they don't do something memorable.

i prefer beer to any other kind of alcoholic drink.

When i have sex people who like these things, i fist, lick, bite, slap, growl, and fuck.

i ID as a lesbian before i ID as femme.

i feel a strong sense of sisterhood with feminine lesbians (not femmes) and straight women. i think of them as like me in many ways.

i'd much rather be naked in public than dressed up in formal attire. (i am naked in public occasionally -- at leather events -- so that's not hypothetical.)

i like butches with curves. (A friend reminded me about that the other day.) YUM.

i take no prisoners when i argue.

i have no crafty hobbies.

i use no emoticons or anything online that twinkles, shines, or sparkles. i will increase my font to wish someone a happy birthday.

There is nothing babygirl or daddy's girl about me. i do not have the gene.

[DapperButch]

I shave my legs before I go to the beach.

I have no problems asking for directions.

[Blaze]

I shave my legs before I go to the beach.

I have no problems asking for directions.

Heck Dapper, I would be in the shower for hours and beside, my weed whacker broke. But I guess I will have to get out the big guns triple blade this year.

[Bad_boi]

I'm Danny and I'm a butch :)

I can sew
I have planter full of flowers (I like columbines)
I like beading

[apretty]

i'm sooooooo femme that...

ANYTIME anyone says "nuts"...

i turn to them and say: DEEZNUTZ?

[Gemme]

I'm a femme who does not sew, is not a great cook (decent, but not great and I don't love it), and will kill creepy crawlies.

[Arwen]

I'm a femme who doesn't get scrapbooking.
All my pictures are stuffed in shoeboxes.
I own five pairs of shoes and none of them have high heels.:blueheels:
Bedazzlers scare me.
I need help putting on makeup.
I have the world's hippiest (not hip) sense of fashion.

[SassyLeo]

I'm a femme who doesn't get scrapbooking.
All my pictures are stuffed in shoeboxes.
I own five pairs of shoes and none of them have high heels.:blueheels:
Bedazzlers scare me.
I need help putting on makeup.
I have the world's hippiest (not hip) sense of fashion.


I worked at Michael's Craft Store when I was in high school. The Bedazzler was quite popular then. We actually also bought acid wash denim jackets for the store and featured them together on an end cap display. The flew out of the store on opening Sunday :|

[Waldo]

All my pictures are stuffed in shoeboxes.


*twitch*

Now I know what we can do when I come down your way in July.

[Gemme]

I worked at Michael's Craft Store when I was in high school. The Bedazzler was quite popular then. We actually also bought acid wash denim jackets for the store and featured them together on an end cap display. The flew out of the store on opening Sunday :|

I heart Michael's. They take my money regularly and I happily hand it over and I don't give a rat's ass if that is a stereotype or not. Crafts are like catnip to me. :blink:

[apretty]

All my pictures are stuffed in shoeboxes.


me too!! i think albums are weird and i *feel* (i may be wrong) that they'll take up too much space.

[The_Lady_Snow]

I can do a very clean farmer's blow...:)

[Blaze]

Hi my name is Blaze and I am butch.
I can fix just about anything from plumbing, concrete, drywall, paint, fiber glass, tile, carpentry, heavy equipment to small power tools, cars, boats, lawn mowers.
But don't ask me to be your electrician. I have had to many hair raising experience, that were truly shocking...
But I do love to cook.
I love romance novels.
I love roses.
I love flowers grown or in a pretty vase.
I am attracted to very pretty items, being, rugs, plates, vases, lamps, bedrooms.
I love the scents of woman's perfumes but only ware men's.
I admire beautiful dresses on woman but would look awful if I tried to wear one, hence I wear men's clothing.
:blueheels: I also think high heels are so beautiful. But I would break my ankle if I even dared try to put my cluncky feet in them.
I am debating if I should shave my legs this summer too but I kind of like my hairy legs because they are hairier than my brothers and I always had that much over them, lol.

[Arwen]

*twitch*

Now I know what we can do when I come down your way in July.

Do you want me to start unfolding them now? :goodluck:

Blaze, I know this great romance novelist named Marilu Mann...