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Apocalipstic
11-20-2009, 03:37 PM
YouTube- Sunset Blvd Trailer
Billy Wilder if one of my favorite directors, I have seen almost all his films. This by far is my fav (except for Stalag17 of course).
I spent weeks trying to make cigarrette holders with paperchips after I saw it for the first time.
A must see!
Sweet_Pea
11-20-2009, 03:49 PM
OH! Im a huge classic movie fan, My absolute favorite is the 1959 version of the Imitation of Life.. . . awesome movie.
Im also a fan of Leave her to Heaven, and probably any musical.
YouTube- Imitation Of Life - Original Trailer 1959
Apocalipstic
11-20-2009, 03:56 PM
OH! Im a huge classic movie fan, My absolute favorite is the 1959 version of the Imitation of Life.. . . awesome movie.
Im also a fan of Leave her to Heaven, and probably any musical.
YouTube- Imitation Of Life - Original Trailer 1959 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP95isl8WHc)
Ohh, that's a great one! an important subject and Lana Turner. :)
I love musicals too!
foxyshaman
11-20-2009, 04:14 PM
I love old movies!!! If I am chanel surfing and I pass a BW movie I have to stop. BW's are the movies I can watch no matter how far into it is when I find it (that just sounds confusing!) Love em.....
Oh I watched Breakfast at Tiffany's a couple nights ago. Oh and Rear view window with Grace Kelly... she's dreamy....
SuperFemme
11-20-2009, 05:00 PM
An Affair to Remember
The Public Enemy
The Postman Always Rings Twice
To Have and to Have Not
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Asphalt Jungle
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Citizen Kane
Casablanca
Gone With The Wind
The Wizard of Oz
On The Waterfront
Sunset Blvd.
Bridge on the River Kwai
Some Like it Hot
Star Wars
All About Eve
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
Psycho
The Grapes of Wrath
YouTube- An Affair to Remember (1957) - Ending scene 2/2
YouTube- One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest - The Best Of - Part 1
Sweet_Pea
11-20-2009, 05:51 PM
Im with you on two SuperFemme, I love Gone with the wind and Wizard of Oz, u may have a few on ur list i need to check out!
SuperFemme
11-20-2009, 06:02 PM
Im with you on two SuperFemme, I love Gone with the wind and Wizard of Oz, u may have a few on ur list i need to check out!
I am a classic movie FANATIC, and I own all the films I listed. I would never give a bad idea. Swear.
oh wait, this isn't the lying thread.
I seldom turn my TV away from TCM.
I collect movies and wanted to be a screenwriter at one time.
I'm with you on Billy Wilder who's an idol of mine especially the soliloquey in The Lost Weekend.
Favorite Movie of all time, hands down:
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946) directed by my second hero, William Wyler.
Nine Oscars including Best Picture and Supporting Actor, Harold Russell.
See ya at the movies.
Rufusboi
11-20-2009, 06:18 PM
I love the opening shot of Touch of Evil. That wonderful long shot. It is a classic to watch and gets me every time. Touch of Evil had one of the first butch characters in film. Rufus
Ms. Tabitha
11-20-2009, 06:29 PM
An Affair to Remember
YouTube- An Affair to Remember (1957) - Ending scene 2/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMQUu-KCXGA)
One of my favorite movies!! Thank you for sharing.
:princess:
Stanwyck
Stella Dallas 1937
YouTube- Stella Dallas (1937)
Titanic 1953
YouTube- Titanic (1953) - Part 5
Double Indemnity (1944)
YouTube- double indemnity innuendo
Semantics
11-21-2009, 07:19 AM
YouTube- Dangerous (1935) Part 7
Bette Davis is amazing in this movie. She's crazy and outrageous and wonderful.
Some of her quotes as Joyce Heath:
You're everything that's repulsive to me!
You're wife? I've never been a wife to you, you poor, simpering fool!
If you had any pride, if you were a man instead of a drooling milk-sop you'd throw me out and be ashamed to admit you'd ever married me.
I should laugh at you, should I? But I can't help it. You were so awkward that I almost laughed in your face at first. And then it made me sick to think that anyone could be stupid enough to be taken in by old tricks. I thought you might at least be amusing, but you turned out to be dull, and stupid and so afraid. Well you needn't be? I won't hurt your Sunday school romance or your oh so nice career. Hurt me? Get out of here before you give me hysterics!
It's either going to be your life or mine. If you're killed, I'll be free. If I'm killed it really doesn't matter. If we both die- good riddance!
Apocalipstic
11-22-2009, 04:07 PM
Stalag 17
The Apartment
Night of the Iguana
MASH
Nashville
Jaws
Vertigo!!!
Rear Window
The Searchers
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
The Ghost and Mr. Chicken :)
Double Indemnity!
The Third Man
Rope
To Catch a Thief
Chinatown
:)
Am going to check out some of the films here I have not yet seen :) Yeay!
I have a teeny Netflix problem
HumV4me
11-22-2009, 04:15 PM
I was watching the TCM channel during the Halloween horror fest... and I have say Dr. Jekle and Mr. Hyde made me laugh all threw the movie. I had read the book and saw some remake of it way back when. The original is the best.
watching The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence, great old western
The Bad Seed
One of my favorite classics based on Maxwell Anderson's play about a murderous 9 year old played by Patty McCormick
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YouTube- The Bad Seed (1956) 06/14 (English - Spanish - Subtitles)
T4Texas
12-13-2009, 08:17 AM
I Love old movies and am also an avid TCM watcher. Some of my favorites are:
Now Voyager/Bette Davis
They Drive By Night/George Raft
Torrid Zone/James Cagney-Ann Sheridan
The Maltese Falcon/Bogart
Really just too many to even list. I also collect silents and have many feature films of the 1920's.
daisygrrl
12-13-2009, 10:10 AM
Since I was a little girl, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953) with Jane Russell and Marilyn Monroe is one of my all-time favorite movies.
YouTube- Gentlemen Prefer Blondes part 3
It Happened One Night (1934) with Clark Gable & Claudette Colbert is one of my all-time favorite romantic comedies.
YouTube- It happened one night
Don't like Marilyn Monroe at all. I think she sucked as an actress. Just my .02.
daisygrrl
12-13-2009, 10:24 AM
Don't like Marilyn Monroe at all. I think she sucked as an actress. Just my .02.
Well, I always wanted to be Jane Russell in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes :)
I didn't like Monroe's Bus Stop (her accent is sooo annoying to me in that film) or a few others; but I don't think she was that bad in some of her films... I do understand, though, how some people think of her as more of an iconic figure than an actress :-)
little man
12-23-2009, 01:59 AM
An Affair to Remember
The Public Enemy
The Postman Always Rings Twice
To Have and to Have Not
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Asphalt Jungle
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Citizen Kane
Casablanca
Gone With The Wind
The Wizard of Oz
On The Waterfront
Sunset Blvd.
Bridge on the River Kwai
Some Like it Hot
Star Wars
All About Eve
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
Psycho
The Grapes of Wrath
man, i wanna do movie night with you. i'll make the popcorn. :) can we toss in It's a Wonderful Life?
always2late
12-23-2009, 06:31 AM
I LOVE classic movies! Some of my favorites:
The Philadelphia Story
Arsenic and Old Lace
Witness for the Prosecution
Any Hitchcock movie (except Marnie...wasn't crazy about that one)
ANYTHING with Bette Davis (her performance in "Of Human Bondage", one of her firsts, was amazing)
Will be back later with more, I am sure :)
blush
12-23-2009, 08:31 AM
The Bad Seed
One of my favorite classics based on Maxwell Anderson's play about a murderous 9 year old played by Patty McCormick
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YouTube- The Bad Seed (1956) 06/14 (English - Spanish - Subtitles) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSMdqy3sOFY)
This is one of my favorite movies too. I love the simplicity of it.
Patty McCormick did the stage version, and they rushed to make the movie before she got too old for the role.
Had a Stanwyck marathon last night.
Witness to Murder
Crime of Passion
Jeopardy
On tap tonight: Kirk Douglas
The Big Carnival (aka Ace in the Hole)
The Man with A Horn (Harry James' trumpet dubbed in makes this film)
No time for The Bad & The Beautiful, and Lonely Are the Brave, maybe tomorrow night.
Powerful heartbreaking scenes that make you feel embarrassed and humiliated for the characters.
Jezebel, 1938
YouTube- Jezebel - Red dress scene
Rebecca, 1940
YouTube- Rebecca 3/13
Stella Dallas, 1937
YouTube- Stella Christmas.mpg
I'm a fan of black and white photography and there have been great pictures shot with the intensity of black and white. One of my favorite scenes is a close up from A Place In the Sun directed by George Stevens (Best Director) and William Mellor (Best Cinematography) black and white. No doubt considering the power mix of actors and shots dominate the movie...
YouTube- A place in the Sun
Lady Jewel
01-11-2010, 07:55 PM
One of my faves is Imitation of Life with Lana Turner. It is the consummate tear-jerker.
Jewel
My favorite westerns
Three Godfathers
The Shootist
3:10 to Yuma (the original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
and at the top of my list
Shane
YouTube- Shane - exciting ending to Western movie classic
Duchess
01-12-2010, 10:29 PM
YouTube- Some like It hot [1959] ending
YouTube- Arsenic And Old Lace 3/15 (1944)
If I had my choice, I would vote in favor of an honorary Oscar or Lifetime Achievement Award be given to Debbie Reynolds.
She was amazing. I just didn't realize how much growing up with her kind of movie star.
My def. of film noire: heavy shadows and cigarette smoking in damn near every scene.
TCM REMINDER
31 DAYS OF OSCAR STARTS FEB. 1, 2010
owen4u1904
01-29-2010, 07:32 AM
YouTube- Bye Bye Birdie (1963 movie) - Telephone Hour
YouTube- Best Of Peter Pan-Never Grow Up
Odarlin
01-30-2010, 12:24 AM
I love the opening shot of Touch of Evil. That wonderful long shot. It is a classic to watch and gets me every time. Touch of Evil had one of the first butch characters in film. Rufus
Sha-freakin-ZAM.
YouTube- Touch of Evil Opening Shot
BestButchBoy
01-30-2010, 05:25 AM
I'm a huge Cary Grant fan. Probably because in my head, I am Cary Grant. ha ha!
Nonetheless---some of my favorite classic movies are:
North by Northwest
To Catch a Thief
Houseboat (I too fell in love with Sophia Loren!)
Marjorie Morningstar
Casablanca
That Touch of Mink
Mildred Pierce
Sex and The Single Girl (Natalie Wood! Be still my heart!)
I know there are many, many more...but, I will always stay and re-watch any of these.
From my Top 10:
The Bad and The Beautiful, 1952
YouTube- #248) THE BAD AND THE BEAUTIFUL (1952)
The main title:
YouTube- Theme from"The Bad & The Beautiful"
One of the best courtroom scenes ever in my book.
Take a few minutes to watch how this ending scene builds.
And Justice for All
YouTube- [Great Movie Scenes] ...And Justice For All - Ending Scene
violaine
02-14-2010, 09:25 PM
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Apocalipstic
02-15-2010, 01:06 PM
I love the Film Noir!
LaDolceVita
02-15-2010, 01:28 PM
It is all about the Love Love and Love!!!
YouTube- La Dolce Vita - Love love and love
I like Olivia de Havilland. I like her sister, Joan Fontain, too, although they were competitive enemies. Three great films come to mind besides Gone With the Wind and Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte:
The Heiress (won Best Actress) with Montgomery Clift, Lady in a Cage, and The Snake Pit, nominated for Best Actress in 1949.
YouTube- The Snake Pit 7/12
I do not like this movie at all: Some Like It Hot. It's odd because i'm a huge Billy Wilder fan. I think it's because I can't stand marilyn monroe.
"With the passing of Sir Laurence Olivier, every actor in the world moved up one notch." —Eulogy
This is a link to Olivier winning an Honorary Oscar. What a tremendous actor having been nominated 11 times.
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YouTube- Sir Laurence Olivier receiving an Honorary Oscar®
Still one of my favs
YouTube- Suddenly Last Summer - Close
This dance sequence between William Holden and Kim Novak from Picnic
is considered one of the sexiest on film. It was choreographed by Jerome Robbins and it's one of my favorites.
Incredibly sexy. William Holden was actually pretty drunk when this was sequence was shot so Kim Novak had do the leading.
You'll see Holden first, then Novak comes into frame and the dance begins shortly after.
YouTube- Mesmerised, Hypnotised
[QUOTE=Lady Jewel;32197]One of my faves is Imitation of Life with Lana Turner. It is the consummate tear-jerker.
Along those lines of the big Technicolor melodramas and tear jerkers of the 50s:
Magnificent Obsession, This Earth is Mine, Summer Place, Peyton Place, Written on The Wind, and Madam X (with Lana Turner) which is a remake from an original from the 30s (I think)
Another actor I like from the old guard is Robert Taylor.
Handsome devil and married to Barbara Stanwyck.
Out of all of his movies, I think Westward the Women has to be one of his best.
YouTube- ROBERT TAYLOR FILMS Westward the Women (1951) II
Favorite performances by actresses
Shirley Booth, Come Back Little Sheba (No. 1)
Patricia Neal, Hud
Barbara Stanwyck, Stella Dallas
Hattie McDaniel, Gone With the Wind
Favorite performances by actors
Spencer Tracy (everything he did) (No. 1)
Melvyn Douglas, Hud
Burl Ives, The Big Country
Jack Nicholson, Chinatown
Marlon Brando, The Godfather
more later
Performances that annoy the hell out of me
Margaret O'Brien in almost everything
Andy Griffith, A Face in the Crowd
Shelly Winters, A Place in the Sun
I read this book back in the 70s when it first came out. It's still available at Amazon and it's a great book for anyone into Hollywood trivia and famous scandals. This is about everything from Charlie Chaplin's sex trial to the murder trial of Lana Turner's daughter (who is gay by the way)
Hollywood Babylon by Kenneth Anger
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Remembering
Kathryn Grayson
February 9, 1922 – February 17, 2010
YouTube- Movie Legends - Kathryn Grayson
Legendary musical star Kathryn Grayson died at age 88.
The singer and movie legend Kathryn Grayson died at her home in Los Angeles on Wednesday.
Grayson is best known for her many roles in MGM musicals during the 1940’s and 1950’s.
Grayson was a classically trained soprano and boy did she have a voice.
According to BBC news Kathryn had actually planned on having a career as an opera singer when she was persuaded
by MGM to sign a contract with them at the young age of 15. Throughout her years at MGM Grayson was lucky enough
to work with Hollywood Icons Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra and if you have seen her in a movie with either of these
men you know she certainly held her own.
After her last film in 1956, Kathryn made the switch from movies to the Broadway stage,
she even took over for Julie Andrews in the production of Camelot in 1962.
She also went on tour with her former costar Howard Keel in Man of La Mancha.
Later she appeared on TV shows such as Murder, She Wrote and Baretta.
Grayson really was an extraordinarily talented woman.
Kathryn was married and divorced twice. She has one daughter, two grandchildren and four great-grand children.
There was and never will be anyone quite like the legendary musical star Kathryn Grayson.
She was the true epitome of old school Hollywood.
Greta Garbo's screen test, 1949.
Shot by the legendary cinematographer James Wong Howe,
2-time Oscar winner and 8-time nominee.
YouTube- Greta Garbo Screen-Test WONG/HOWE (1949) MIX
More well-known classics by James Wong Howe
Funny Lady (1975)
The Horsemen (1971)
The Molly Maguires (1970)
The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter (1968)
Hombre (1967)
Seconds (1966)
This Property Is Condemned (1966)
Hud (1963)
The Story on Page One (1959)
The Last Angry Man (1959)
Bell Book and Candle (1958)
The Old Man and the Sea (1958)
A Farewell to Arms (1957) (uncredited)
Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
The Rose Tattoo (1955)
Picnic (1955)
Come Back, Little Sheba (1952)
Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House (1948)
Nora Prentiss (1947)
Objective, Burma! (1945)
Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942)
Kings Row (1942)
Fantasia (1940) (uncredited)
Odarlin
02-19-2010, 11:34 PM
The Housemaid, 1960, Director: Kim Ki-young
(fyi: some violence in this clip)
YouTube- THE HOUSEMAID scene
Odarlin
02-20-2010, 02:45 AM
Paint Your Wagon, 1969, Starring: Jean Seberg, Lee Marvin, Clint Eastwood
YouTube- Hello, Parson! Welcome to hell!
YouTube- Lee Marvin Wandering Star Paint Your Wagon 1968
YouTube- Lee Marvin - God Knows Why
YouTube- Gold Fever - Clint Eastwood
:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:
I like Paint Your Wagon too, Odarlin. My favorite from the score is "There's a Coach Comin' In.
One of the most interesting movies I've ever seen is The Slender Thread, 1965.
It features incredible acting from Anne Bancroft, Sidney Portier and Telly Savalas.
This is about a young psych student (Portier) who works at a suicide prevention center and
tries to save the life of a woman on the phone (Anne Bancroft). Most of the movie takes place on the phone
with flashbacks and developments until Portier pinpoints her location to save her.
Telly Savalas is terrific as a psychiatrist and Portier's boss. The best scene is with Savalas listening in on the phone,
but I couldn't find it. Here's another clip. Enjoy.
YouTube- The Slender Thread (1965) - 3/10
....and the envelope please.
YouTube- Best Picture Oscar Winners (1927/28-2008)
Best Actress Winners
YouTube- Best Actress Oscar Winners (1927/28-2008)
Best Actor Winners
YouTube- Best Actor Oscar Winners (1927/28-2008)
Best Supporting Actress winners 1936-2008
YouTube- Best Supporting Actress Oscar Winners (1936-2008)
Best Supporting Actor Winners 1936-2008
YouTube- Best Supporting Actor Oscar Winners (1936-2008)
Ashton
02-21-2010, 09:38 PM
Another actor I like from the old guard is Robert Taylor.
Handsome devil and married to Barbara Stanwyck.
Out of all of his movies, I think Westward the Women has to be one of his best.
YouTube- ROBERT TAYLOR FILMS Westward the Women (1951) II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu4cdr0A3Ys)
One of my favorites not many folks know this one!!
Hitchcock preferred blondes.
Eva Marie Saint, North by Northwest
Tippi Hedren, Marnie, The Birds
Janet Leigh, Psycho
Madeliene Carrol, The 39 Steps
Joan Fontaine, Rebecca, Suspicion
Doris Day, The Man Who Knew Too Much
Grace Kelly, Dial M For Murder, To Catch a Thief, Rear Window
Kim Novak, Vertigo
Pricilla Lane, Saboteur
Tallulah Bankhead, Spellbound
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Odarlin
02-22-2010, 12:38 PM
Searching for the singer in this scene, LUCHA REYES is how I landed on this clip.
Her voice just stops my heart.
I am intrigued to see the whole film.
I am looking for a copy (english subtitles nice but not necessary) should anyone know of one available online.
YouTube- LUCHA REYES "PIENSO EN TÍ" (1940)
AtLast
02-22-2010, 01:20 PM
I really enjoyed seeing a PBS special last night about the screwball romantic commedy genre of the 1930's & 1940's. So many great clips of Hepburn, Tracy, Lombard, Monroe, Hudson, day, Grant, plus! Good night at the home cinema!
cinderella
02-22-2010, 02:17 PM
I love classic movies and hope I can both learn and contribute to this thread. For now I will just read the posts, and hopefully get to know everyone.
A change of heart...since it seems the convo has turned to Billie Wilder - one of my fave directors - I'd like to add, IMO, one of his best: Witness for the Prosecution - great film! Here's a clip from the court scene. Dietrich is being interrogated by Laughton.
YouTube- Mock Trial - Cross Examination
cinderella
02-22-2010, 02:45 PM
Hi, Odarlin...if Lucha Reyes stops your heart, wait until you hear this gal! Enjoy.
YouTube- Bandoneon Tango "Besos Brujos" Libertad Lamarque
Ok, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I successfully posted a vid on my first try, but now can't seem to do it again. Any suggestions? Thank you.
Searching for the singer in this scene, LUCHA REYES is how I landed on this clip.
Her voice just stops my heart.
I am intrigued to see the whole film.
I am looking for a copy (english subtitles nice but not necessary) should anyone know of one available online.
YouTube- LUCHA REYES "PIENSO EN TÍ" (1940) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnILWo1QpK4)
I love classic movies and hope I can both learn and contribute to this thread. For now I will just read the posts, and hopefully get to know everyone.
A change of heart...since it seems the convo has turned to Billie Wilder - one of my fave directors - I'd like to add, IMO, one of his best: Witness for the Prosecution - great film! Here's a clip from the court scene. Dietrich is being interrogated by Laughton.
YouTube- Mock Trial - Cross Examination (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd-9CSjyA7A&feature=related)
My favorite, as well, on all counts. Welcome classic cinema comrade.
cinderella
02-22-2010, 08:01 PM
Thank you.
My favorite, as well, on all counts. Welcome classic cinema comrade.
Cyclopea
02-22-2010, 08:13 PM
Hi, Odarlin...if Lucha Reyes stops your heart, wait until you hear this gal! Enjoy.
YouTube- Bandoneon Tango "Besos Brujos" Libertad Lamarque (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hrboHa2wLk)
Ok, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I successfully posted a vid on my first try, but now can't seem to do it again. Any suggestions? Thank you.
In my experience when a youtube has embedding disabled the link comes up as it did here for you- the link still works, and you did it correctly, it just won't embed. I still post 'em if they're good. People can just click it.
cinderella
02-22-2010, 08:13 PM
YouTube- I Remember You
cinderella
02-22-2010, 08:15 PM
Cyclopea, thanks for the info and assistance, however, I resolved it.
In my experience when a youtube has embedding disabled the link comes up as it did here for you- the link still works, and you did it correctly, it just won't embed. I still post 'em if they're good. People can just click it.
Cyclopea
02-22-2010, 08:19 PM
Cyclopea, thanks for the info and assistance, however, I resolved it.
There was nothing to resolve! lol. That vid had embedding disabled by the person who uploaded it. Have fun!
cinderella
02-22-2010, 08:22 PM
YouTube- Angel Eyes
cinderella
02-22-2010, 08:24 PM
Actually, there was...I was just doing it wrong. There was no embedding disabled. My problem was that I thought I had to put brackets or something around the url address in the 'Advanced' box, but that's not so. In any event, I figured it out.
There was nothing to resolve! lol. That vid had embedding disabled by the person who uploaded it. Have fun!
William Wyler is my favorite director, with Hitch second. His daughter, Patricia, made cameo appearances in three films: Psycho, Strangers On a Train and Stage Fright. His wife Alma, edited scripts and gave final approval on many.
Patricia Hitchcock with her dad.
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cinderella
02-22-2010, 08:45 PM
'The Member of the Wedding', one of my favorite films. Julie Harris, 27 here, playing a 12 year old girl - and she clinched it!! Not too many can get away with that!! She was nominated for an Oscar, but did not win. IMO, she should have - her performance was outstanding!
Here's my favorite scene from that film - Ethel Waters was magnificent as the housekeeper/nanny.
YouTube- Ethel Waters - Eyes On The Sparrow
Cyclopea
02-22-2010, 08:48 PM
Actually, there was...I was just doing it wrong. There was no embedding disabled. My problem was that I thought I had to put brackets or something around the url address in the 'Advanced' box, but that's not so. In any event, I figured it out.
yes, it was disabled. nothing you could do would have made that video post.
take care!
YouTube- Splendor in the Grass Pt.12 of 12
cinderella
02-22-2010, 08:56 PM
Ah, love this film - it was on TCM the other night.
YouTube- Splendor in the Grass Pt.12 of 12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiAnp_fZlYo&feature=related)
AtLast
02-22-2010, 09:12 PM
Really WAY BIG WOW!!! Thanks for posting these! This thread is fantastic! Yikes, I bet I am showing my age! Can't help it.... I have no expertise in film history at all, just enjoying all of the stuff people are posting and try to catch specials, etc. about film.
Hitchcock preferred blondes.
Eva Marie Saint, North by Northwest
Tippi Hedren, Marnie, The Birds
Janet Leigh, Psycho
Madeliene Carrol, The 39 Steps
Joan Fontaine, Rebecca, Suspicion
Doris Day, The Man Who Knew Too Much
Grace Kelly, Dial M For Murder, To Catch a Thief, Rear Window
Kim Novak, Vertigo
Pricilla Lane, Saboteur
Tallulah Bankhead, Spellbound
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Really WAY BIG WOW!!! Thanks for posting these! This thread is fantastic! Yikes, I bet I am showing my age! Can't help it.... I have no expertise in film history at all, just enjoying all of the stuff people are posting and try to catch specials, etc. about film.
Welcome. We'll try to keep it interesting. feel free to share.
To me, there is no war picture more heart wrenching than the true story of The Fighting Sullivans.
My hobby is WWII history and classic films, and the story of losing five brothers on the USS Juneau and how it impacted the
nation and military policy (pre-private Ryan) has always had an affect on me— along with the movie which was nominated for Best Story.
I wanted to share the scene when Mr. and Mrs. Sullivan receive a personal visit from three naval officers to deliver the news that their
sons had died. Mr. Sullivan (played by Thomas Mitchell) asks, "which one?" The naval officer (Ward Bond) replies, "All five."
The scene is not available so I'm posting a lighter sequence of the Sullivans as young boys along with other facts.
Enjoy the clip from this great movie, and the memory of the five Sullivan brothers.
The Fighting Sullivans, RKO, 1944
YouTube- Lessons Lost in Today's World - Lesson #64
Navy department press release February 2, 1943. The letter of condolence from President Roosevelt to Mrs. Sullivan
Dear Mrs. Sullivan:
"The knowledge that your five gallant sons are missing in action, against the enemy,
inspired me to write you this personal message. I realize full well there is little I can say to assuage your grief.
"As the Commander in Chief of the Army and the Navy, I want you to know that the entire nation shares your sorrow.
I offer you the condolence and gratitude of our country. We, who remain to carry on the fight, must maintain the spirit
in the knowledge that such sacrifice is not in vain. The Navy Department has informed me of the expressed desire of your sons;
George Thomas, Francis Henry, Joseph Eugene, Madison Abel, and Albert Leo, to serve on the same ship.
I am sure, that we all take pride in the knowledge that they fought side by side. As one of your sons wrote,
`We will make a team together that can't be beat.' It is this spirit which in the end must triumph.
"Last March, you, Mrs. Sullivan, were designated to sponsor a ship of the Navy in recognition of your patriotism and that of
your sons. I am to understand that you are, now, even more determined to carry on as sponsorer. This evidence of unselfishness
and courage serves as a real inspiration for me, as I am sure it will for all Americans. Such acts of fate and fortitude in the
face of tragedy convince me of the indomitable spirit and will of our people.
"I send you my deepest sympathy in your hour of trial and pray that in Almighty God you will find a comfort
and help that only He can bring.
Very sincerely yours,
"/s/ Franklin D. Roosevelt"
The Sullivan Brothers
George Thomas Sullivan, 27 (born 14 December 1914), Gunner's Mate Second Class (George had been previously discharged in May 1941 as Gunner's Mate Third Class.)
Francis "Frank" Henry Sullivan, 26 (born 18 February 1916), Coxswain (Frank had been previously discharged in May 1941 as Seaman First Class.)
Joseph "Joe" Eugene Sullivan, 24 (born 28 August 1918), Seaman Second Class
Madison "Matt" Abel Sullivan, 23 (born 8 November 1919), Seaman Second Class
Albert "Al" Leo Sullivan, 20 (born 8 July 1922), Seaman Second Class
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cinderella
02-22-2010, 10:02 PM
I love The Fighting Sullivans, but I think my favorite war, well post-war movie, is 'The Best Years of Our Lives' - great film!! Myrna Loy & Frederic March - it just don't better then that!
I love The Fighting Sullivans, but I think my favorite war, well post-war movie, is 'The Best Years of Our Lives' - great film!! Myrna Loy & Frederic March - it just don't better then that!
The Best Years of Our Lives IS MY FAVORITE MOVIE OF ALLLLLLL TIME. I have the movie, the main title, and iI've seen it like 100 times. The best movie ever, and the best from William Wyler, my idol.
The Fighting Sullivans was released through Republic Pictures, not RKO.
helps if i type in the right studio, heh.
My def. of film noire: fist fights and their hats never fall off.
Petal Soft
02-23-2010, 03:37 AM
Gilda Rita Hayworth
The scene when you see her for the first time and she looks up and flicks all that glorious hair back, now thats REAL GLAMOUR!!
~~~petal~~~
Great
CLEFTS
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cinderella
02-24-2010, 05:41 PM
Edited to add: I've googled Rita's bio, and they all say she was born in Brookly, NY - now I've read dif versions of her origins, so who knows which version is true...
Hi, Petal - ol' classic movie fanatic here!!!
Yeah, I love that shot!!!
Little known fact about Rita - she was Spanish. Her real name was Rita Cansino. She had jet black hair with a very prominent 'widow's peak' on her forhead removed via electrolisis. Then her tresses were colored the red she became famous for. Intensive speach and eloqution lessons got rid of her Spanish accent. She had been a dancer in Spain - teamed with her brother - a skill and talent that served her well in Hollywood.
She'd been married to Orson Welles - le enfant terrible, and directorial genius, and consumate actor as well. Then she married Ali Khan, and became America's first princess (no, it wasn't Grace Kelly - Rita was the first.).
Poor Rita was struck with Altzheimers desease, and died quite young - I think in her 50's. Her daughter, Jasmin (issue of Rita's marriage to Ali Kahn), was a very big advocate and spokesperson for the Altzheimer's Desease organization.
Rita, bomshell and beloved by us all!! We remember and love you.
Gilda Rita Hayworth
The scene when you see her for the first time and she looks up and flicks all that glorious hair back, now thats REAL GLAMOUR!!
~~~petal~~~
cinderella
02-24-2010, 05:53 PM
LOL, oh stop!!! The best description of Noir is dark, wet, sleek streets, shadows and dark alleys that go nowhere - deadend streets with no light...and the ongoing angst of the characters. ;)
My def. of film noire: fist fights and their hats never fall off.
cinderella
02-24-2010, 05:57 PM
Two 'stepchild' studios...add Columbia, usually rated in the same category. However, they never saw it coming when 'It Happened One Night' won the Oscar for best picture, plus 4 more Oscars that year! Not bad for a 'sleeper' film, and MGM's 'punishment' for Clark Gable, and Colbert's 'fill-in' between films and her vacation!!!
The Fighting Sullivans was released through Republic Pictures, not RKO.
helps if i type in the right studio, heh.
cinderella
02-24-2010, 06:06 PM
Just finished watchin A Duel In The Sun - Jennifer Jones at her best, IMO. I love this movie, because I love Jennifer Jones. The scenes at the end of the movie are the best - such passion!! Love/Hate at it's best. I've never seen anything to compare with those last scenes of this film - the music score enhances the momentum and drama - an exceptional film on all counts!!! Gregory Peck - Mr. Nice Guy, in a devilish and 'bad-boy' role, and Joseph Cotton with his smooth, velvety voice as the 'good' brother, is also exceptional in this film - one of my favorites!
Now playing on TCM: 'Indescretion of an American Housewife' - Jennifer Jones again. Terrific movie, add Monty Cliff, and it's a 'must-see' addition to your list!! Monty Cliff is in a category all his own which I won't go into right now!!
Just finished watchin A Duel In The Sun - Jennifer Jones at her best, IMO. I love this movie, because I love Jennifer Jones. The scenes at the end of the movie are the best - such passion!! Love/Hate at it's best. I've never seen anything to compare with those last scenes of this film - the music score enhances the momentum and drama - an exceptional film on all counts!!! Gregory Peck - Mr. Nice Guy, in a devilish and 'bad-boy' role, and Joseph Cotton with his smooth, velvety voice as the 'good' brother, is also exceptional in this film - one of my favorites!
Now playing on TCM: 'Indescretion of an American Housewife' - Jennifer Jones again. Terrific movie, add Monty Cliff, and it's a 'must-see' addition to your list!! Monty Cliff is in a category all his own which I won't go into right now!!
She's a beauty and married to Selznick. hey, seriously, when you think about it, watch fist fights. 9 times out of 10 their hats stay on lol...i'm being silly, comrade.
cya at the movies
cinderella
02-24-2010, 06:16 PM
I know, comrade, you're entitled...why am I feeling like Ninochka??? lol
She's a beauty and married to Selznick. hey, seriously, when you think about it, watch fist fights. 9 times out of 10 their hats stay on lol...i'm being silly, comrade.
cya at the movies
Julien
02-24-2010, 07:37 PM
Hi,
I thought I would stop by after a very kind invitation. I teach Film Studies and love the classic films. I would like to join in for the discussion.
Graphiteta2s
cinderella
02-24-2010, 08:15 PM
You are more then welcome, Graphita2, thanks for joining us!! Would love to hear from someone who's experienced in the classic movie rhelm...please do come join in the discussion.
I am presently watching 'Anne Frank's Diary' - great film, outstanding actors. Anyone care to disuss?
Hi,
I thought I would stop by after a very kind invitation. I teach Film Studies and love the classic films. I would like to join in for the discussion.
Graphiteta2s
cinderella
02-25-2010, 12:20 PM
Saw 'Room at the Top' this morning...couldn't sleep. Great performances by Lawrence Harvey, and Simone Signoret - two under-rated actors, at least in American film IMO. Signoret was probably bigger in France, her native country. Harvey, a British import, has done some wonderful films in the US. 'The Manchrian Candidate' (1962) being his tour-de-force IMO - steller cast as well.
Hitchcock preferred blondes.
Eva Marie Saint, North by Northwest
Tippi Hedren, Marnie, The Birds
Janet Leigh, Psycho
Madeliene Carrol, The 39 Steps
Joan Fontaine, Rebecca, Suspicion
Doris Day, The Man Who Knew Too Much
Grace Kelly, Dial M For Murder, To Catch a Thief, Rear Window
Kim Novak, Vertigo
Pricilla Lane, Saboteur
Tallulah Bankhead, Spellbound
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This is awesome! Before we moved, our neighbor "Johnboy" had quite the few chickens. He named them all after Hitchcock's "chicks". We of course gave him mostly all things Hitchcockian for gifts... Christmas/ birthdays, etc.
Great collection of photos! Thanks
Saw 'Room at the Top' this morning...couldn't sleep. Great performances by Lawrence Harvey, and Simone Signoret - two under-rated actors, at least in American film IMO. Signoret was probably bigger in France, her native country. Harvey, a British import, has done some wonderful films in the US. 'The Manchrian Candidate' (1962) being his tour-de-force IMO - steller cast as well.
The first French woman to win the Oscar for that in the late 50s. Sexy as hell, I remember her in Ship of Fools (I believe)
cinderella
02-25-2010, 01:31 PM
Yes, sexy as hell, esp in 'Room at the Top'. Besides the Oscar, she also won the Cannes Film Festival award for this film as well.
Did you see her in 'Games' (1967) with Katherine Ross, James Caan. It was an intriguing film, with a strange twist at the end...good movie.
The first French woman to win the Oscar for that in the late 50s. Sexy as hell, I remember her in Ship of Fools (I believe)
The first French woman to win the Oscar for that in the late 50s. Sexy as hell, I remember her in Ship of Fools (I believe)
I know. You didn't read my post right. I said an Oscar for Room at the Top.
I was remembering her in Ship of Fools
cinderella
02-25-2010, 09:25 PM
I realized that after I posted. I went back and corrected my post.
i can do without a Forrest Gump marathon on AMC...enough already...there's plenty of oscar winners out there without them repeating this "yawrn". i didn't like it when i saw it at the theatre. and i don;t consider it a classic. my .02
One of my favorites from the old guard.
I liked his presence in his movies, his range of roles,
and the fact that, according to his bio,
"He was one of the first Hollywood celebrities to declare his support for the gay rights movement,
in his Playboy interview from January 1969. He further stated that he would have no problem playing gay
characters on screen, since he was secure with his own sexual orientation."
I'm watching The Dirty Dozen, a helluva lot more entertaining
than Forrest Gump.
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Miss Scarlett
02-26-2010, 05:37 AM
i can do without a Forrest Gump marathon on AMC...enough already...there's plenty of oscar winners out there without them repeating this "yawrn". i didn't like it when i saw it at the theatre. and i don;t consider it a classic. my .02
It was good the first time...maybe the second...but now it's just another example of a network trying to get their money's worth I guess.
Tom Hanks marathon? That would be OK but please, please, please more than just one (or three) films.
cinderella
02-26-2010, 01:26 PM
I was watching this too - not one of my faves, as I'm not that keen on war movies, altho admitedly, there are some wonderful war flicks. I fell asleep before finishing it. Lee Marvin has a very strong personality - to me, he is the epitome of 'macho'. Indeed, he can be comfortable in his skin playing a gay man, or any 'deviant' role - who could ever question his manhood? Certainly not I!!!
John Casavettes who plays Franco in The Dirty Dozen won an Oscar for his performance. Everytime I see him, I can't help thinking of 'Rosmary's Baby', lol. He also directed, and worked behind the scenes alot. Married to Gina Rawlins, their son, John Jr. is a director himself.
Yeah, what's up with the Gump marathon?? I dislike AMC, and rarely watch it unless I come across a really good film they may be showing...it irritates me to no end that they have commercials. And if they *must*, good grief, why can't they show 'em BETWEEN movies!!!! grrrrrr.
Oh, btw, Ol' Jet...West Side Story will be showing soon - I think next Tuesday, but you can check TCM's schedule to make sure.
Ben Hur on on Sunday at 8pm.
Question - how do you like the 'between-the-films' discussions, commentaries, dialougues that go on? Robert Osborne, whom I admire greatly - the man's a 'walking encyclopedia' is very informative. I also love his 'guest programmers', interviews, etc. I have been watching TCM on a daily basis (well, almost) for 15 years - since it started. I have learned a wealth of background info on everything to do with Hollywood, so very interesting. I also have a large collection of books on Hollywood, it's history and beginnings, the studio system, bios on the stars, etc. I have Volumes I & II of Hollywood Bablyon - a very interesting (and eye-opening) insight to juicy scandal and little known facts about the Icons we love so much!!! A good read indeed!!!!
One of my favorites from the old guard.
I liked his presence in his movies, his range of roles,
and the fact that, according to his bio,
"He was one of the first Hollywood celebrities to declare his support for the gay rights movement,
in his Playboy interview from January 1969. He further stated that he would have no problem playing gay
characters on screen, since he was secure with his own sexual orientation."
I'm watching The Dirty Dozen, a helluva lot more entertaining
than Forrest Gump.
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See ya at the movies.
I'm having a southern dinner with my good friend Mel who has spent the day cooking southern. But I'll come back and respond later...just checking the thread for now...not on ignore. she's fixing food from the south carolina gullah..i'm honored to be entertained with this tradition....sorry for the derail
cinderella
02-26-2010, 06:19 PM
Derails are cool, Ol' Jet...
was perusing YouTube and came across this - mostly forgotton nowadays, but I love her.
Here's Nancy Wilson, one ebony beauty singing to the images of another...RIP Josephine, I love you!!
Ol' Jo, had both male and female lovers - and who can blame them! She was stunningly beautiful!!
YouTube- Tribute to Josephine Baker
cinderella
02-26-2010, 07:13 PM
Another Simone Signoret film I'd forgotten about, but facsinating:
"Diabolique' - have you seen that one, Ol' Jet?
Oh, btw, I've been meaning to ask for the longest...did you ever get to see 'Sweet Smell of Success'? If so, what did you think of it?
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I was 5 years old when West Side Story was released in 1961.
I don't remember seeing it until I was maybe 7 or 8 at the drive-in with my parents. I loved the music and
choreoghraphy especially the Blues Promenade in the gym, The Jet Song, Somewhere, Tonight and Maria.
I'm glad we have these actors and performances on film, remaining timeless, and the sensitive,
intense Romeo and Juliet romance of West Side Story.
I could go on about Robert Wise, Jerome Robbins and Oscars and all of that, but I have a more of a heartfelt view.
I chose my screen name and composed my signature montage around West Side Story because if I could be anywhere,
anytime, anyone it would be a Jet in West Side Story—at least for a day. I like it's raw energy, it's streetwise edge,
the nuances of the early 60s, and the old school romance of falling in love at first sight.
That said....
This is my small tribute to the people that were so fortunate to make it happen and who they are now.
Thanks for reminding us that it will be on Cinderella. Long live West Side Story.
__________________________________________________ ____
Richard Beymer, Tony
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George Chakiris, Best Supporting Actor, Bernardo
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Rita Moreno, Best Supporting Actress, Anita
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The late Natalie Wood, Maria
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The Jet Song
YouTube- West Side Story-Jet Song
Another Simone Signoret film I'd forgotten about, but facsinating:
"Diabolique' - have you seen that one, Ol' Jet?
Oh, btw, I've been meaning to ask for the longest...did you ever get to see 'Sweet Smell of Success'? If so, what did you think of it? I've never seen Diabolique aired. Would you believe twice "Sweet ...Success" aired I missed it, lol. But i like that kind of drama, Lancaster, Curtis etc. so I'll watch for it again.
Cyclopea
02-26-2010, 11:15 PM
I was watching this too - not one of my faves, as I'm not that keen on war movies, altho admitedly, there are some wonderful war flicks. I fell asleep before finishing it. Lee Marvin has a very strong personality - to me, he is the epitome of 'macho'. Indeed, he can be comfortable in his skin playing a gay man, or any 'deviant' role - who could ever question his manhood? Certainly not I!!!
John Casavettes who plays Franco in The Dirty Dozen won an Oscar for his performance. Everytime I see him, I can't help thinking of 'Rosmary's Baby', lol. He also directed, and worked behind the scenes alot. Married to Gina Rawlins, their son, John Jr. is a director himself.
Yeah, what's up with the Gump marathon?? I dislike AMC, and rarely watch it unless I come across a really good film they may be showing...it irritates me to no end that they have commercials. And if they *must*, good grief, why can't they show 'em BETWEEN movies!!!! grrrrrr.
Oh, btw, Ol' Jet...West Side Story will be showing soon - I think next Tuesday, but you can check TCM's schedule to make sure.
Ben Hur on on Sunday at 8pm.
Question - how do you like the 'between-the-films' discussions, commentaries, dialougues that go on? Robert Osborne, whom I admire greatly - the man's a 'walking encyclopedia' is very informative. I also love his 'guest programmers', interviews, etc. I have been watching TCM on a daily basis (well, almost) for 15 years - since it started. I have learned a wealth of background info on everything to do with Hollywood, so very interesting. I also have a large collection of books on Hollywood, it's history and beginnings, the studio system, bios on the stars, etc. I have Volumes I & II of Hollywood Bablyon - a very interesting (and eye-opening) insight to juicy scandal and little known facts about the Icons we love so much!!! A good read indeed!!!!
Ahhh, yes.... Gena Rowlands is Da Bomb.
:loveletter::rose::awww:
Love her.
YouTube- Gloria 1980 TV trailer
Cyclopea
02-26-2010, 11:46 PM
I was 5 years old when West Side Story was released in 1961.
I don't remember seeing it until I was maybe 7 or 8 at the drive-in with my parents. I loved the music and
choreoghraphy especially the Blues Promenade in the gym, The Jet Song, Somewhere, Tonight and Maria.
I'm glad we have these actors and performances on film, remaining timeless, and the sensitive,
intense Romeo and Juliet romance of West Side Story.
I could go on about Robert Wise, Jerome Robbins and Oscars and all of that, but I have a more of a heartfelt view.
I chose my screen name and composed my signature montage around West Side Story because if I could be anywhere,
anytime, anyone it would be a Jet in West Side Storyat least for a day. I like it's raw energy, it's streetwise edge,
the nuances of the early 60s, and the old school romance of falling in love at first sight.
That said....
This is my small tribute to the people that were so fortunate to make it happen and who they are now.
Thanks for reminding us that it will be on Cinderella. Long live West Side Story.
From WEST SIDE STORY: HOMOSEXUAL SPACE OPERA AT ITS FINEST by Edmund Yeo:
"a dystopian America in which menacing street gangs control New York, and violence (both physical and emotional) and repressed homosexual attraction are sublimated into spontaneous, flamboyant eruptions of singing and dancing."
From Robert Hilferty:
"IN THE 1950s, four gay men of genius got together and created what is arguably the greatest Broadway show ever. The brainchild of choreographer Jerome Robbins, West Side Story was initially going to be called East Side Story and focus on JewishCatholic tensions. But once the more dramatic gang war idea took hold, pitting white Americans against Puerto Ricans on rough turf on Manhattans Upper West Side, the teams imagination was fired up. West Side Story was Stephen Sondheims first Broadway show as a lyricist and Leonard Bernsteins fourth Broadway score (after On the Town, Wonderful Town, and the Broadway operetta Candide). Arthur Laurents, later famous for Gypsy, wrote the book.
West Side Story was a groundbreaking musical tragedy with two corpses on stage at the end of Act I. The dance-driven vehicle featured a stunning score with operatic and symphonic sophistication, an eclectic mix of memorable tunes unified through the use of the tritonean interval of three dissonant whole notes that produced a feeling of tension or dread (you can hear it clearly at the beginning of Maria). The ever-resourceful Bernstein even included a jazzy 12-tone fugue in his number, Cool.
The show opened in 1957 and had a successful run of 732 performances. However, it lost the Tony for Best Musical to the more upbeat The Music Man. In 1961, a movie version starring Natalie Wood was released, nabbing ten Oscars. The LP of the movie soundtrack sold like hotcakes."
Love it!
And what's not to like about Anybodys?
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Remember bundles, comrade?
I want to suggest mixes of movies that work well together for night of popcorn and nostalgia. This is for the benefit of anyone isn't familiar with great movies and who would like to learn. I could do dozens of these. But two movies that come to mind for a night of romantic tearjerkers, are Made For Each Other, 1939 with James Stewart and Carole Lombard and Penny Serenade, 1941 with Cary Grant and Irene Dunn. Same themes—two great stories about marriage, struggles and heartache. Bring your Kleenex and plan on enjoying two classically tender movies. Here are a couple of samples....
YouTube- Made For Each Other 7/12 (1939)
YouTube- Penny Serenade 13/16 (1941)
Cyclopea
02-27-2010, 01:22 AM
[QUOTE=Ol' Jet;58134]Remember bundles, comrade?
I want to suggest mixes of movies that work well together for night of popcorn and nostalgia. This is for the benefit of anyone isn't familiar with great movies and who would like to learn. I could do dozens of these. But two movies that come to mind for a night of romantic tearjerkers, are Made For Each Other, 1939 with James Stewart and Carole Lombard and Penny Serenade, 1941 with Cary Grant and Irene Dunn. Same themestwo great stories about marriage, struggles and heartache. Bring your Kleenex and plan on enjoying two classically tender movies. Here are a couple of samples....
Wonderful idea!
I recommend as a double feature:
Tod Browning's "Freaks"
YouTube- gooble gobble
And "Les Diaboliques":
YouTube- "LES DIABOLIQUES" - Excerpt
Question - how do you like the 'between-the-films' discussions, commentaries, dialougues that go on? Robert Osborne, whom I admire greatly - the man's a 'walking encyclopedia' is very informative. I also love his 'guest programmers', interviews, etc. I have been watching TCM on a daily basis (well, almost) for 15 years - since it started. I have learned a wealth of background info on everything to do with Hollywood, so very interesting. I also have a large collection of books on Hollywood, it's history and beginnings, the studio system, bios on the stars, etc. I have Volumes I & II of Hollywood Bablyon - a very interesting (and eye-opening) insight to juicy scandal and little known facts about the Icons we love so much!!! A good read indeed!!!!
I admire Robert Osborne totally. I did post the cover of Hollywood Babylon, the first edition earlier, don't know if you saw it. I didn't read the second one, but I was fascinated with the scandals etc. I have Hollywood coffee table hardbacks back home in storage, The MGM Story, 50 Years of Movies and The Movie Stars. They were given to me as gifts from my mom and friends. Anything I learned about movies just came from liking them.
Cyclopea
02-27-2010, 02:23 AM
Kenneth Anger is so freaking great.
YouTube- THE FILMS OF KENNETH ANGER VOL. 1 DVD TRAILER
Too bad Hollywood Babylon 3 was nixed.
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cinderella
02-27-2010, 07:00 AM
Cyclopea, thanks for correcting the spelling of Gina Rowlands name, sorry. I do that alot, lol. But it's good to see that folks are 'on their toes' about this sort of thing!! Warms my heart!!
Ahhh, yes.... Gena Rowlands is Da Bomb.
:loveletter::rose::awww:
Love her.
YouTube- Gloria 1980 TV trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NImDlin6hE)
cinderella
02-27-2010, 07:15 AM
I hope this doesn't come off as sounding pompous, or discourage folks that are not as knowledgeable into not participating - but it's such a pleasure to chat with you guys. You are both so knowledgeable and informed. I've tried starting a similar thread on another site, but with the exception of a couple of peeps, all I'm getting is titles, and 'Yeah, I liked that one', etc. No in-depth discussions which was what I was hoping for.
I suggested assigning a film for all of us to watch, then discuss. That too didn't work out as well as I would've liked it to. Perhaps it's my fault not having very good moderating skills, or perhaps not enough structure, whatever the reason...it's not working.
On this thread I am feeling more 'fulfilled' in my search for discussion, and the vids & commentaries are awesome. Yes, we may be 'all over the place', but I am enjoying this immensely.
Ol' Jet, I knew of your love for WSS - that's why I mentioned it. And you prob *were* a Jet in another life!! :)
cinderella
02-27-2010, 07:25 AM
One of my great fantacies is to be a guest programmer on TCM. Not only would I get to meet and chat with my idol - Robert Osborne, but I'd get to pick 3 great films!! Question - which 3 would you pick, and why? I know it's very hard to pick just 3, but if you had to, which would they be? Here's my choice:
1. My Cousin Rachel (Richard Burton's American debut) - because it's never been aired, and is a great Gothic romance, along the lines of Wuthering Heights (another favorite of mine)
2. Witness for the Prosecution - just because it's an awesome Billie Wilder film, and they just don't show it enough!
3. Judgement at Nuremburg (what an incredible cast!!) - reason, same as #2.
cinderella
02-27-2010, 07:34 AM
Freakishly mesmerizing!! Reminds me of a French film - Beauty & the Beast - Whoopie Goldberg's choice as a guest programmer on TCM. I will search for a clip of the vid on YouTube. It's an enchantingly strange film with somewhat of a 'freakish' twist.
Kenneth Anger is so freaking great.
YouTube- THE FILMS OF KENNETH ANGER VOL. 1 DVD TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CHLsN29AEA)
Too bad Hollywood Babylon 3 was nixed.
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Mitmo01
02-27-2010, 09:10 AM
Wow Cinderella good list
Judgement at Nuremburg is an awesome movie
one of my favorites
and Witness for the Prosecution was awesome as well
cinderella
02-27-2010, 10:10 AM
Yes, they are all awesome. There's so many I can list, but I want to get an idea of which are the very favorites of folks if they had to choose.
Btw, where's your list! :)
Wow Cinderella good list
Judgement at Nuremburg is an awesome movie
one of my favorites
and Witness for the Prosecution was awesome as well
I'm really big on stories and screenplays. Two favorites in my top 10 are Keeper of the Flame with Spencer Tracy and Kathryn Hepburn and All My Sons written by Arthur Miller with Edward G. Robinson and Burt Lancaster. Both are intense war and post-war dramas with great twists and turns in getting down to painful truths behind cover-ups. And both are worth adding to a classic DVD collection. In case some don't know, you can purchase classic DVDs from TCM, some at discounted prices.
cinderella
02-27-2010, 04:13 PM
I would try Amazon.com first. They're way cheaper then TCM.
So, Ol' Jet, are these two films part of the 3 you would pick as a guest programmer on TCM? Where's the 3rd choice?
I'm really big on stories and screenplays. Two favorites in my top 10 are Keeper of the Flame with Spencer Tracy and Kathryn Hepburn and All My Sons written by Arthur Miller with Edward G. Robinson and Burt Lancaster. Both are intense war and post-war dramas with great twists and turns in getting down to painful truths behind cover-ups. And both are worth adding to a classic DVD collection. In case some don't know, you can purchase classic DVDs from TCM, some at discounted prices.
I would try Amazon.com first. They're way cheaper then TCM.
So, Ol' Jet, are these two films part of the 3 you would pick as a guest programmer on TCM? Where's the 3rd choice?
I actually found some great prices on movies on TCM. i think it depends on the specials they run.
I don't know what I would do as a guest programmer, i have to think about that. Offhand, I guess the two I mentioned could be it with maybe Rebecca.. These would be my choices for pics that have great twists and surprise endings.
Miss Scarlett
02-27-2010, 05:22 PM
eBay can also be a good place to buy movies.
cinderella
02-27-2010, 06:45 PM
Talking about great twists - how about The Heiress? I love, love, love that movie!!
I actually found some great prices on movies on TCM. i think it depends on the specials they run.
I don't know what I would do as a guest programmer, i have to think about that. Offhand, I guess the two I mentioned could be it with maybe Rebecca.. These would be my choices for pics that have great twists and surprise endings.
cinderella
02-27-2010, 06:49 PM
A good place to buy lots of stuff, Miss Scarlett. I have found great bargains on ebay, altho I've never thought of buying movies from them. Another great place for movies and books is Half.com - I think it's a sub of Amazon, not sure, but I've gotton many great deals from them as well.
I bought what I think might be my favorite movie of all time on Half.com - 'Brief Encounter' - $6, TCM has it for over $30!!!
eBay can also be a good place to buy movies.
Talking about great twists - how about The Heiress? I love, love, love that movie!!
i guess, it doesn't fit the initial themes i was after
another evening forrest gump.:bigcry:
cinderella
02-27-2010, 07:13 PM
Getta heah!!! Oh nooooooooooooooo!!!
another evening forrest gump.:bigcry:
cinderella
02-27-2010, 07:14 PM
Not clear on what your 'theme' is - something like 'Vertigo'?
i guess, it doesn't fit the initial themes i was after
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Triple feature mix of size-mic proportions for an evening of B movie pleasure.
The Amazing Colossal Man, 1957
Attack of the 50 Foot Woman, 1958
The Incredible Shrinking Man, 1957
The Amazing Colossal Man
Lt. Col. Glenn Manning is inadvertently exposed to a plutonium bomb blast at Camp Desert Rock. Though burned over 90% of his body, he survives, and begins to grow in size. As he grows, his heart and circulatory system fail to keep pace with his growth, and he is gradually losing his mind as a result of reduced blood supply to his brain. He reaches 50 feet tall before his growth is stopped. By this time he has become insane. He escapes and wreaks havoc upon Las Vegas before he is finally stopped.
Attack of the 50 Foot Woman
Attack of the 50 Foot Woman tells the story of Nancy Archer, a wealthy alcoholic who cannot tame her blatantly cheating husband. Her troubles increase when she encounters an alien in the back deserts of California and no one believes her because they think she is drunk. When Nancy grows to a height of 50 ft. as a result of radiation exposure from contact with the alien, she is finally in a position when she can no longer be ignored.
The Incredible Shrinking Man
Scott Carey and his wife Louise are sunning themselves on their cabin cruiser, the small craft adrift on a calm sea. While his wife is below deck, a low mist passes over him. Scott, lying in the sun, is sprinkled with glittery particles that quickly evaporate. Later he is accidentally sprayed with an insecticide while driving and, in the next few days, he finds that he has begun to shrink. First just a few inches, so that his clothes no longer fit, then a little more. Soon he is only three feet tall, and a national curiosity. At six inches tall he can only live in a doll's house and even that becomes impossible when his cat breaks in. Scott flees to the cellar, his wife thinks he has been eaten by the cat and the door to the cellar is closed, trapping him in the littered room where, menaced by a giant spider, he struggles to survive.
See ya at the movies....
YouTube- The Amazing Colossal Man
YouTube- Attack of the 50 Foot Woman (1958) - Trailer
YouTube- Incredible Shrinking Man trailer
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We could talk all day about great scenes from Titanic movies.
But this one is a favorite with Barbara Stanwyck and Clifton Webb
from Titanic, 1953. The wealthy Clifton Webb has just learned that
their son, Norman, is not really his.
The dialogue is great in the scene between the two on deck.
The scene starts about 2:30 into this clip.
See ya at the movies......
Titanic Movies
Saved From The Titanic (1912)
Titanic (1943)
Titanic (1953)
A Night To Remember (1958)
S.O.S. Titanic (1979)
Raise The Titanic (1980)
Titanic (1996)
Titanic (1997)
Movies Featuring Titanic
In Nacht Und Eis (1912)
Cavalcade (1933)
The Unsinkable Molly Brown (1964)
Time Bandits (1981)
Ghostbusters 2 (1989)
No Greater Love (1996)
The Chambermaid (On The Titanic) (1997)
Ghosts Of The Abyss (2003)
Movies Inspired By Titanic
Atlantis (1913)
Atlantic (1929)
History Is Made At Night (1937)
The Last Voyage (1960)
The Poseidon Adventure (1972)
The Memory Of Eva Ryker (1980)
Goliath Awaits (1981)
Thumbtanic (2000)
YouTube- Titanic (1953) - Part 5 of 11
Cyclopea
02-28-2010, 01:05 AM
Cyclopea, thanks for correcting the spelling of Gina Rowlands name, sorry. I do that alot, lol. But it's good to see that folks are 'on their toes' about this sort of thing!! Warms my heart!!
I'm terrible at names too, but just happen to be a big fan of Gena!
Cyclopea
02-28-2010, 01:06 AM
Freakishly mesmerizing!! Reminds me of a French film - Beauty & the Beast - Whoopie Goldberg's choice as a guest programmer on TCM. I will search for a clip of the vid on YouTube. It's an enchantingly strange film with somewhat of a 'freakish' twist.
Very interesting! Thank you.
:)
Gloria Stuart is due to celebrate her 100th birthday this year.
Neat lady.
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BestButchBoy
02-28-2010, 05:49 AM
One of my favorite movies and I'd date Sophia Loren any day! Be still my heart...
YouTube- Houseboat BING BANG BONG
Try getting this song or Sophia out of your head today...ha!
YouTube- Sophia Loren-Bing, Bang, Bong.WMV
One of my favorite movies and I'd date Sophia Loren any day! Be still my heart...
YouTube- Houseboat BING BANG BONG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJf9n6TX-ns)
Try getting this song or Sophia out of your head today...ha!
YouTube- Sophia Loren-Bing, Bang, Bong.WMV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2rTsvZvO1s&feature=related)
She won an for Two Women. Best thing she ever did IMO.
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Summer of '42, 1971
A Separate Peace, 1972
The Last Picture Show, 1971
All three of these are dramas set in the 1940s and 50s with intense character studies about youth, war and growing up. Great music. Two Oscars went to Last Picture Show out of 8 nominations. If you like good drama, memorable characters, great acting and sensitive romance movies with historical authenticity and style, you'll like these if you haven't seen them.
Summer of '42
Silent as a painting, the movie shows us day-dreamer Hermie and his friends Oscy and Benjie spending the summer of '42 on an US island with their parents - rather unaffected by WWII. While Oscy's main worries are the when and how of getting laid, Hermie honestly falls in love with the older Dorothy, who's married to an army pilot. When her husband returns to the front, Hermie shyly approaches her and a summer romance with the older woman ensues.
A Separate Peace
Gene and Finny are two boys who are best friends living in 1943, at the height of World War II. The idea that the boys will most likely be drafted when they turn eighteen is surrounding them, and they are practically forced to live their lives to the fullest. The two boys attend the Devon School, which prepares them for military life that they will most likely be subjected to. The film begins with a narration by an older Gene, traveling back to Devon some years later. The thing he wishes most to see is the tree, which had a great effect on the boys' lives. The movie focuses on friendship, hatred and rivalry. Based on John Knowles novel.
Video clips of A Separate Peace are not available
The Last Picture Show
In tiny Anarene, Texas, in the lull between World War Two and the Korean Conflict, Sonny and Duane are best friends. Enduring that awkward period of life between boyhood and manhood, the two pass their time the best way they know how -- with the movie house, basketball, and girls. Jacey is Duane's steady, wanted by every boy in school, and she knows it. Her daddy is rich and her mom is good looking and loose. It's the general consensus that whoever wins Jacey's heart will be set for life. But Anarene is dying a quiet death as folks head for the big cities to make their livings and raise their kids. The boys are torn between a future somewhere out there beyond the borders of town or making do with their inheritance of a run-down pool hall and a decrepit movie house -- the legacy of their friend and mentor, Sam the Lion. As high school graduation approaches, they learn some difficult lessons about love, loneliness, and jealousy. Then folks stop attending the second-run features at the movie house and the time comes for the last picture show. With the closure of the movie house, the boys feel that a stage of their lives is closing. They stand uneasily on the threshold of the rest of their lives. (The movie was adapted from the novel by Larry McMurtry).
See ya at the movies....
YouTube- the last picture show
YouTube- Summer of 42 - part 11 Final
One of my favorite movies and I'd date Sophia Loren any day! Be still my heart...
YouTube- Houseboat BING BANG BONG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJf9n6TX-ns)
Try getting this song or Sophia out of your head today...ha!
YouTube- Sophia Loren-Bing, Bang, Bong.WMV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2rTsvZvO1s&feature=related)
welcome comrade
Random
03-01-2010, 09:07 AM
The Quiet Man (my absolute favorite movie of all times) John Wayne, and Maureen Ohara
Undercurrent with Katharine Hepburn, Robert Mitchum, and Robert Taylor
All about Eve... Everyone!!! lol
cinderella
03-01-2010, 09:24 AM
I totally agree. In Two Women Sophia proved that she could be a serious actor, and showed her range. IMO most of her films were pieces of 'fluff', and eye-candy for lecherous, drooling males...that said, however, who could forget her American debut in Boy on a Dolphin as she emerges from the deep with that see-through, wet, clinging shirt that clearly showed her breasts, and, *gasp* nipples too!!! Quite the scandal for the 1960's!!! Unfortunately for Sophia, her sultryness and beauty were a detriment as far as her acting career went - given the chance and proper scripts, I think she would have been a tremendous dramatic actor. Check her out in The Black Orquid (1958) with Anthony Quinn. I thought she was great in this.
She won an for Two Women. Best thing she ever did IMO.
Duchess
03-01-2010, 09:50 AM
YouTube- Mock Trial - Cross Examination
YouTube- The Blob 1958 part2
YouTube- The phantom of the opera (Lon Chaney)
no1sBoi
03-01-2010, 12:32 PM
I totally agree. In Two Women Sophia proved that she could be a serious actor, and showed her range. IMO most of her films were pieces of 'fluff', and eye-candy for lecherous, drooling males...that said, however, who could forget her American debut in Boy on a Dolphin as she emerges from the deep with that see-through, wet, clinging shirt that clearly showed her breasts, and, *gasp* nipples too!!! Quite the scandal for the 1960's!!! Unfortunately for Sophia, her sultryness and beauty were a detriment as far as her acting career went - given the chance and proper scripts, I think she would have been a tremendous dramatic actor. Check her out in The Black Orquid (1958) with Anthony Quinn. I thought she was great in this.
Sophia Loren is one of those women who still sets the standard for me in so many ways, from epitomizing international Stardom to...well, casual day-dreamy lady-looking, frankly:)
...and yes, what a breakthrough scene from "Boy on a Dolphin". How many times since, have filmmakers introduced us to a breathtaking creature emerging slowly from the sea, smiling into us, half-naked wet and...well, suffice to say, it has become a staple. See Halle Berry in "Die Another Day".
I totally agree. In Two Women IMO most of her films were pieces of 'fluff', and eye-candy for lecherous, drooling males...
yep, and I'm one of em...
Apocalipstic
03-01-2010, 04:26 PM
Jet, this is such a great thread. I really enjoy how you are putting films together which might make for a great theme evening!
Thank you for taking the time to do this!
Jet, this is such a great thread. I really enjoy how you are putting films together which might make for a great theme evening!
Thank you for taking the time to do this!
Well thank you so much for saying so, comrade. I'm going to continue to do Jet's FlixMix for that very reason. I kind of think it's a great way to get to know films, stories and genres for people who are not familiar. I think its fine to talk about what we like and exchange our opinions about movies from all angles. But its also fun to provide information about we know... See ya at the movies....
......How many times since, have filmmakers introduced us to a breathtaking creature emerging slowly from the sea, smiling into us, half-naked wet and...well, suffice to say, it has become a staple. See Halle Berry in "Die Another Day".
Hell, on that note, Raquel is my pick....
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Two Nights! Four Films!
Awesome Effects! Great Casts!
The Hurricane, 1937
In Old Chicago, 1936
The Rains Came, 1939
San Francisco, 1936
I've put together four disaster films based on incredible directing and special effects during the 1930s. The Hurricane is considered to have one of the greatest storm scenes of its time—and it is awesome. The first time I saw this movie, I couldn't believe how well done it was for the limited technology of the day. Along with The Hurricane, are terrific special effects in In Old Chicago, based on the famous 1871 fire; The Rains Came, which has amazing scenes of devastation from torrential rains, and San Francisco, which based on the great earthquake of 1906. If you're not familiar with directors in the elite category, John Ford and Henry King are two who made their mark early with these films. All four movies have well-known casts and great stories. I'd settle into a weekend with these movies and hopefully you will too. See ya at the movies....
The Hurricane, 1937
Directed by John Ford
Dorothy Lamour, Raymond Massey, Mary Astor
In the days of the tall ships and colonial rule of the South Pacific, a naive native sailor working as first mate on an island hopping windjammer is unjustly jailed in Tahiti for striking a racist planter with government connections. His attempts to escape imprisonment and return to his home island and young wife are contrasted with the attitudes of the white colonials, including a humanitarian physician, a "by the book" governor and a sadistic jailer, as well as the forces of natural justice in the form of a devastating hurricane. Written by the authors of "Mutiny on the Bounty."
In Old Chicago, 1937
Directed by Henry King
Tyrone Power, Alice Faye, Don Ameche
Story of the great fire of 1871. Fictional story of two sons of Mrs. O'Leary (the owner of the cow which started the fire), one a rogue (Power) the other a lawyer (Ameche). One of the most expensive films of its time ($1.8 million).
The Rains Came, 1939
Directed by Clarence Brown
Tryrone Power, Myrna Loy
The year is 1938 in British India, and our story takes place in the picturesque city of Ranchipur, presently sweltering under the heat, with locals praying for much needed rains and relief. In this scenario we have an elegant Maharaja, Man Singh Bahadur, and his astute and wise wife, the Maharani of Ranchipur; a perpetual drunk and womanizer, Tom Ransome, who is presently courting an 18 year old runaway from the local Mission by the name of Fern; Lord Albert Esketh, and his wife, Edwina, a former lover of Tom, who are on a visit to Ranchipur, and wish to purchase some of the Maharaja's horses; Then there is Dr. Major Rama Safti, a Hindu who is currently having an affair with Lord Albert's wife, and who is the heir apparent to the throne of Ranchipur. All plans of the citizens of Ranchipur are cut short with heavy incessant rains, followed by earthquakes, flooding, polluted waters, and then - plague.
San Francisco, 1936
Directed by Woody VanDyke
Clark Gable, Spencer Tracy, Jeanette McDonald
Mary Blake arrives at Blackie Norton's Paradise gambling hall and beer garden looking for work as a singer. Blackie embarrasses her by asking to see her legs, but does hire her. She faints from hunger. Nob Hill Socialite Jack Burley and Maestro Baldini of the Tivoli Opera House see her singing and offer her a chance to do opera, but Blackie has her under a two-year contract which she sorrowfully stands by. Later, when he makes up posters featuring Mary in tights, she does leave for the Tivoli. Blackie gets an injunction against Burley, but knocks out the process server when he hears Mary's performance as Marguerite in "Faust". She asks her to marry him and she agrees to go back to the Paradise as his kind of singer, but Blackie's childhood chum Father Tim intervenes. After Blackie slugs the priest, Mary leaves. She is soon the star of the Tivoli and Blackie's place is closed down. She sings a rousing "San Francisco" on behalf of the Paradise at the annual "Chicken Ball" and wins the $10,000 prize which Blackie throws to the floor. As she storms out of the hall a terrible rumble betokens the famous San Francisco earthquake. Buildings collapse, streets split wide open, the city burns, the army dynamites whole sections of town. After staggering around in a stupor Blackie finds Father Tim and the two of them find Mary at a Salvation Army camp. Backed by hundreds of others, they look out over the ruins which are gradually replaced by the shining new city with a reprise of the title song.
YouTube- The Hurricane 1937 Trailer
YouTube- In Old Chicago - Trailer (1937)
YouTube- san francisco no 12
The Rains Came
YouTube- T r c 6
Apocalipstic
03-01-2010, 05:31 PM
I have:
The Third Man and Rebecca waiting for me at home from Netflix.
I have seen both of them so many times, studied the genres and directors in college. I listened to The Third Man's soundtrack all last week in preparation.
Also, I saved Sunset Blvd (my total fav), Exodus and On the Waterfront on the DVR and just watched Bridge Over the River Kwai last week.
Maybe a William Holden night sometime? I could add Stalag 17.
Blissssssss
Sunset Blvd.
Stalag 17
Bridge over the River Kwai
Except, 2 war movies?
I have:
The Third Man and Rebecca waiting for me at home from Netflix.
I have seen both of them so many times, studied the genres and directors in college. I listened to The Third Man's soundtrack all last week in preparation.
Also, I saved Sunset Blvd (my total fav), Exodus and On the Waterfront on the DVR and just watched Bridge Over the River Kwai last week.
Maybe a William Holden night sometime? I could add Stalag 17.
Blissssssss
Sunset Blvd.
Stalag 17
Bridge over the River Kwai
Except, 2 war movies?
Sure why not 2 war movies. Those were Holden's best war flix. Add Love Is a Many Splendored Thing. William Holden, Jennifer Jones. 1950s ultra-love story which goes along with Sunset Blvd as films in the 50s. Or how about Sabrina? William Holden, Humphrey Bogart, Audry Hepburn.
Holden in the 1930s
Golden Boy---classic movie with barbara stanwyck and Lee J Cobb (based on Cliffors Odets Broadway play, I believe)
The 1940s were kind of a lull for him
My favorite Holden movie of the 50s would be:
Executive Suite--big cast, great movie- Stanwyck, Holden, june Allison, Paul Douglas, Fredrick march, lots of folks.
and then theres:
Picnic- with Kim Novak
William Holden movies are great...have a good time with whatever you choose.
cinderella
03-01-2010, 09:06 PM
Wow!!! I'm soooooo surprised!!! lol
yep, and I'm one of em...
cinderella
03-01-2010, 09:09 PM
Y'know, this could be another good idea for a 'theme' - picking an actor, then watch a collection of his/her movies - just at thought...
Sure why not 2 war movies. Those were Holden's best war flix. Add Love Is a Many Splendored Thing. William Holden, Jennifer Jones. 1950s ultra-love story which goes along with Sunset Blvd as films in the 50s. Or how about Sabrina? William Holden, Humphrey Bogart, Audry Hepburn.
Holden in the 1930s
Golden Boy---classic movie with barbara stanwyck and Lee J Cobb (based on Cliffors Odets Broadway play, I believe)
The 1940s were kind of a lull for him
My favorite Holden movie of the 50s would be:
Executive Suite--big cast, great movie- Stanwyck, Holden, june Allison, Paul Douglas, Fredrick march, lots of folks.
and then theres:
Picnic- with Kim Novak
William Holden movies are great...have a good time with whatever you choose.
Y'know, this could be another good idea for a 'theme' - picking an actor, then watch a collection of his/her movies - just at thought...
exactly. you could do themes on anything. i'm going to do actor themes, too.
cinderella
03-01-2010, 09:21 PM
Cool I'm thinking who...hmmm, I'm thinking either Burt Lancaster, or Kirk Douglas...or maybe Edward G., or Spencer Tracy, or...oh my, this is hard...
exactly. you could do themes on anything. i'm going to do actor themes, too.
Apocalipstic
03-02-2010, 09:07 AM
Sure why not 2 war movies. Those were Holden's best war flix. Add Love Is a Many Splendored Thing. William Holden, Jennifer Jones. 1950s ultra-love story which goes along with Sunset Blvd as films in the 50s. Or how about Sabrina? William Holden, Humphrey Bogart, Audry Hepburn.
Holden in the 1930s
Golden Boy---classic movie with barbara stanwyck and Lee J Cobb (based on Cliffors Odets Broadway play, I believe)
The 1940s were kind of a lull for him
My favorite Holden movie of the 50s would be:
Executive Suite--big cast, great movie- Stanwyck, Holden, june Allison, Paul Douglas, Fredrick march, lots of folks.
and then theres:
Picnic- with Kim Novak
William Holden movies are great...have a good time with whatever you choose.
I could do a differences in POW camps in WWII between Germany and the Pacific. :) I seriously love both those movies! The element of humor in the midst of horror.
Thank you for the William Holden suggestions, I need to update my Netflix list.
This is great!
Cool I'm thinking who...hmmm, I'm thinking either Burt Lancaster, or Kirk Douglas...or maybe Edward G., or Spencer Tracy, or...oh my, this is hard...
Jimmy Stewart!
Cool I'm thinking who...hmmm, I'm thinking either Burt Lancaster, or Kirk Douglas...or maybe Edward G., or Spencer Tracy, or...oh my, this is hard...
we're waiting for your actors themes comrade.
cinderella
03-02-2010, 06:45 PM
Ok, comrade...I'll pick Burt Lancaster. And since we're doing war themes as well, how's bout...Seven Days in May (1964). Steller cast, and intriguing story, with both of my star choices: Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas.
Heres a trailer:
YouTube- Seven Days In May - Trailer,1964
we're waiting for your actors themes comrade.
cinderella
03-02-2010, 06:56 PM
Hey, Ol' Jet, just a few minutes for West Side Story - are you going to watch it? I will. I always do, can't help it...
I like to be in America...I feel pretty, oh so pretty, Maria, I just met a girl named Maria...Something's coming...and oh so many others...I love this movie and all the songs.
C ya at the movies, Ol' Jet!!! ;)
Hey, Ol' Jet, just a few minutes for West Side Story - are you going to watch it? I will. I always do, can't help it...
I like to be in America...I feel pretty, oh so pretty, Maria, I just met a girl named Maria...Something's coming...and oh so many others...I love this movie and all the songs.
C ya at the movies, Ol' Jet!!! ;)
I have it on tape and I'm busy with stuff, so i probably won't. have fun...
cinderella
03-02-2010, 06:59 PM
Quite the lineup on TCM tonight (all times EST):
8PM - West Side Story
11PM - Rebel Without a Cause
1AM - Giant
Happy viewing!!
cinderella
03-02-2010, 07:00 PM
Aw, and here I was thinkin' we could share some popcorn, lol. Ok, comrade, take care.
I have it on tape and I'm busy with stuff, so i probably won't. have fun...
Aw, and here I was thinkin' we could share some popcorn, lol. Ok, comrade, take care.
well okay. maybe i'll turn it on in the background while i do stuff..
rita moreno was sure snazzy, wasn;t she?
i really like the dancing in West Side story. i'm a fan of that kind of athletic, sexy jazz dancing typical of guys like Jerome Robbins and Bob Fosse..you know? nice.
cinderella
03-02-2010, 07:48 PM
Hey, Ol' Jet, wanna play roles - you can be Tony, and I'll be Maria - I am PR, yanno, my real name is Carmen, jes sayin'... lol. You know I'm playing with ya... ;)
Ah, my favorite is coming on now 'America' on the roof!!! Love this piece!!
i really like the dancing in West Side story. i'm a fan of that kind of athletic, sexy jazz dancing typical of guys like Jerome Robbins and Bob Fosse..you know? nice.
Hey, Ol' Jet, wanna play roles - you can be Tony, and I'll be Maria - I am PR, yanno, my real name is Carmen, jes sayin'... lol. You know I'm playing with ya... ;)
you're cute. i know you're PR. snazzy like rita moreno...and sizzling...lol
we go a long way back, carmen.
you're one of the best cinema comrades a cinema comrade could have
(still don't like your precious marilyn tho comrade....ha ha ha...well 'cept for Niagra)
cinderella
03-02-2010, 08:00 PM
That's alright honey, I love her enough for the two of us!!
Yes, we do go back a long way. I am PR, but unfortunately, don't look it. I am more readily taken for Italian of Jewish. I am white, and blond, so even tho we (PR's) have been known as the 'Rainbow People' (way before the rainbow was affiliated with 'gay'. That is because we come in all different shades... :).) My grandparents came from The Canarys - Tenerife on the grand island to be precise. The Canarys are part of Spain - off the coast of North Africa. They have a shuttle ferry that goes from Morroco to The Canarys. In any case, I am very much part of both cultures. Ok, I'm sure this is more info then you want or need, lol.
we go a long way back, carmen.
you're one of the best cinema comrades a cinema comrade could have
(still don't like your precious marilyn tho comrade....ha ha ha)
you're lovely looking, carmen. i've always said that. you should post a pic.
ya outta be in pictures
i think i'll do another Jet's FlixMix for anyone flying by in here...i'll have to think. but you go first with the actor's themes comrade.
cinderella
03-02-2010, 08:05 PM
"Te adoro, Anton."
"Te adoro, Anton."
te adoro, Maria
cinderella
03-02-2010, 08:09 PM
Thank you for the compliment. You can ask Kam, she's met me and spent time with me, so she can tell you.
Comrade...oh! Officer Krupki is coming on, I LOVE that scene!!! lol
I can't post a pic unless I upgrade my membership - don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon.
As for 'actor themes' I already posted my choice...refer to above posts.
you're lovely looking, carmen. i've always said that. you should post a pic.
ya outta be in pictures
i think i'll do another Jet's FlixMix for anyone flying by in here...i'll have to think. but you go first with the actor's themes comrade.
Thank you for the compliment. You can ask Kam, she's met me and spent time with me, so she can tell you.
Comrade...oh! Officer Krupki is coming on, I LOVE that scene!!! lol
I can't post a pic unless I upgrade my membership - don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon.
As for 'actor themes' I already posted my choice...refer to above posts.
you can post your pic in the gallery without an upgrade.
cinderella
03-02-2010, 08:16 PM
Really? Didn't know that. I will try.
Ok, so my choice was for Burt Lancaster, and Seven Days in May. This film has both Burt and Kirk Douglas in it, and is a war movie, so I think it would be a good pick seeing we've been discussing war films. What do you think of this film as a choice for discussion?
you can post your pic in the gallery without an upgrade.
Really? Didn't know that. I will try.
Ok, so my choice was for Burt Lancaster, and Seven Days in May. This film has both Burt and Kirk Douglas in it, and is a war movie, so I think it would be a good pick seeing we've been discussing war films. What do you think of this film as a choice for discussion?
I love that movie because I really like Kirk Douglas' character's principles in it. For the benefit of those who don't know, this movie is about a military conspiracy and a plot to take over the US government by a general gone Judas against the government (played by Lancaster). This flick is intense in its implications especially in the early 60s at a time we were just coming off the Cold War.
Movies like this and The Manchurian Candidate and Fail-Safe with Henry Fonda were very sensitive in light of the current politics.
As matter of fact, comrade, those three films would make a great FlixMix.
Seven Days in May, The Manchurian Candidate and Fail-Safe
All three were from the 60s, same genre/themes, shot in black and white, and all starring major headliners from the old guard including Lancaster, Douglas, Frederic March, Laurence Harvey, Frank Sinatra, Ava Gardner, Martin Balsam, Angela Lansbury, Henry Fonda et al.
Okay, back to "....May" I like the dialogue and the whole story and movie, really. Good choice, comrade.
cinderella
03-02-2010, 09:28 PM
Weird, those are exactly the same films I was thinking about! So weird...but glad to know we're on the same tract.
I love that movie because I really like Kirk Douglas' character's principles in it. For the benefit of those who don't know, this movie is about a military conspiracy and a plot to take over the US government by a general gone Judas against the government (played by Lancaster). This flick is intense in its implications especially in the early 60s at a time we were just coming off the Cold War.
Movies like this and The Manchurian Candidate and Fail-Safe with Henry Fonda were very sensitive in light of the current politics.
As matter of fact, comrade, those three films would make a great FlixMix.
Seven Days in May, The Manchurian Candidate and Fail-Safe
All three were from the 60s, same genre/themes, shot in black and white, and all starring major headliners from the old guard including Lancaster, Douglas, Frederic March, Laurence Harvey, Frank Sinatra, Ava Gardner, Martin Balsam, Angela Lansbury, Henry Fonda et al.
Okay, back to "....May" I like the dialogue and the whole story and movie, really. Good choice, comrade.
Weird, those are exactly the same films I was thinking about! So weird...but glad to know we're on the same tract.
great minds, comrade....lol
cinderella
03-02-2010, 09:56 PM
great minds, comrade....lol
Yes, they do...
i'm sitting here thinking about what i want to share next....
ya know, i think we're the only ones who really do this thread..
did you enjoy WSS tonight comrade?
Rebel Without a Cause I could skip,
Giant i really like, but its long on late tonight
what's your favorite Rock Hudson movie, comrade?
Here's James Dean's car wreck details:
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Picture28.png
yada, yada... good ones! Tell us about a good James Dean movie, which one is the best in your opinions?
yada, yada... good ones! Tell us about a good James Dean movie, which one is the best in your opinions?
Giant based Edna Ferber's novel. He only made about 3 before (dont quote me) his death in his 20s. He's so good in it, transforming from a man in his 20s to his 60s and pulling it off.
It's sad, the poor guy... driving along - minding his own business... and wham! gets hit head-on by a Mac Truck... I can totally relate...
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Flixmix-1.png
Four Big Prison Films!
Four True Stories!
Four Golden Decades of Classic Hollywood!
I Am a Fugitive From A Chain Gang,1932
Call Northside 777, 1948
Carbine Williams, 1952
Birdman of Alcatraz, 1962
Summaries
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang, 1932
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang is a pre-Code crime/drama in which Paul Muni stars as a wrongfully convicted convict on a chain gang who escapes to Chicago. The film was written by Howard J. Green and Brown Holmes from Robert Elliott Burns's autobiography, I Am a Fugitive from a Georgia Chain Gang that was serialised in True Detective magazine. It was directed by Mervyn LeRoy. In 1991, I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".
More on the real Robert Elliot Burns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Elliott_Burns
_________________________________________________
Call Northside 777, 1948
Call Northside 777 is a film noir directed by Henry Hathaway. It is based on the true story of a Chicago reporter who proved that a man who has been in prison for murder, was wrongly convicted 11 years before. James Stewart stars as the persistent Chicago journalist who proves Wiecek's innocence. This is a captivating story. Richard Conte plays the imprisoned Frank Wiecek, a character based on Joseph Majczek, who was wrongly convicted of the murder of a Chicago policeman in 1932, one of the worst years of organized crime during the Great Depression.
More on the real Joseph Majczek
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/wrongfulconvictions/exonerations/ilMajczekSummary.html
_________________________________________________
Carbine Williams, 1952
Carbine Williams is a biography directed by Richard Thorpe, starring James Stewart. The film follows the life of David Marshall Williams (James Stewart), who invented the semi-automatic M1 Carbine used in World War II. Williams was found distilling illegal moonshine, and was held responsible for the death of a federal officer during a raid on his still. He was sentenced to thirty years Hard Labor. He cycled through the prison system, until a firm, but compassionate warden, H.T. Peoples (Wendell Corey) allowed him to work in a prison tool shop. There he invented the gas system for his famous rifle, and eventually was released from prison in 1929 and worked with Winchester Firearms on development of the M1 Carbine. It's amazing to see how someone incarcerated, at a time the prison system was neandrathal, could develop and patent an advanced firearm used in war.
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Picture13-3.png
More on the real David Marshall "Carbine" Williams
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Marshall_Williams
______________________________________________
Birdman of Alcatraz, 1962
Birdman of Alcatraz, directed by John Frankenheimer, stars Burt Lancaster. It is a fictionalized version of the life of Robert Stroud, a federal prison inmate known as the "Birdman of Alcatraz" because of his life with birds. In spite of the title, much of the action is set at Leavenworth prison where Stroud was jailed with his birds. When moved to Alcatraz he was not allowed to keep any pets.
The film was adapted by Guy Trosper from the 1955 book by Thomas E. Gaddis. It was nominated for Academy Awards for Best Actor in a Leading Role (Burt Lancaster), Best Actor in a Supporting Role (Telly Savalas), Best Actress in a Supporting Role (Thelma Ritter) and Best Cinematography, Black-and-White. Stroud was never allowed to see the film. The movie is told in flashback, narrated by Gaddis (O'Brien), the author of the book upon which it is based.
More on Robert Stroud
http://www.alcatrazhistory.com/stroud.htm
YouTube- I AM A FUGITIVE FROM CHAINGANG
YouTube- The Birdman of Alcatraz
YouTube- Call Northside 777 - Chiamata Nord 777 (1948) Trailer
See ya at the movies....
Apocalipstic
03-04-2010, 12:32 PM
I love "Fugitive from a"....we studied it in my Great Films of the 1930's class in college. :)
One of my fav prison stories is "Papillon".
Last night we watched "Laura" again. I really think having a huge tub like that in my office would improve my work.
cinderella
03-04-2010, 07:24 PM
Apocalipstic, I love PAPILLION!! I saw the film before I read the book...and it's a good thing I did! The movie was wonderful, but the book was extraordinary!!
OK, HEADS UP!!!! March 27, on TCM, the debut of one of the best love stories ever...Letter From An Unknown Woman...Louis Jordan's American film debut. Joan Fontain's personal favorite film, and it will be yours as well. I absolutely love this film. Hey, Ol' Jet, do you know know this film? IMO, one of the best of this genre.
Apocaliispe, I love PAPILLION!!
OK, HEADS UP!!!! March 27, on TCM, the debut for one of the best love stories ever...Letter From An Unknown Woman...Louis Jordan's American film debut. Joan Fontain's personal favorite film, and it will be yours as well. I absolutely love this film. Hey, Ol' Jet, do you know know this film? IMO, one of the best of this genre.
no, but i'll be sure to watch if you keep me reminded. is this a chick-flick?
summary?
PS, I like papillon too
I'm a McQueen fan
cinderella
03-04-2010, 07:44 PM
Admidttedly, it is a 'chick flick', but in a universal sense, but it has alot of 'noirish' and gothic flavor. It is beautifully photographed, and just has such a dream-like quality. It is a beautiful film. I think you'll like it, despite of all of your testosterone...
Summary: Kinda like Anna Karinina, at least it reminds me of that, except without the 'train' tragedy.
A love-struck pre-pubescent falls deeply in love with the new tenant in her apt. building - he is a concert pianist. She adores and worships him. They meet years later when she is a young woman. He wines & dines her, she is still madly in love with him. He is a proverbial playboy, she is just another notch on his belt, where he is her whole life.
Life gets in the way, and their lives take a very different turn. The meet years later. They have a short interlude, and after the wine and brief encounter, she realizes to her dismay, that he doesn't remember her.
In the interim she has married and had a child. The child is the pianist's child, being passed off as her hunband's who does know it is not his child. During a chance encounter where they meet, and again persue their romance (tho he's not aware of who she is - he thinks it's just a new conquest), she again visits his apartment, and soon realizes that he does not remember her, or who she is.
The husband, upon realizing what is going on, threatens to take the child away, and challenges the interloper to a duel. But before all this takes place, Jordan defers to a letter received just before the duel. A letter that reveals who his latest romantic interest is, and that he has a child. He slowly goes back in his memory, and finally realizes who this woman is.
I don't want to give everything away - you've got to see the film. It is beautifully executed, and the acting is superb. I hope you get a chance to see it.
no, but i'll be sure to watch if you keep me reminded. is this a chick-flick?
summary?
PS, I like papillon too
I'm a McQueen fan
gee......i dunnoooooo.....could be too sensitive....its a mighty big departure from war and insensitive, oppressive prison flixk....and certainly hoity-toity for my classlessness.....ya think i could handle it, comrade?
you think you could bring me around?
FYI Carmen, i opened the Oscars thread so people can vote and comment.
take a gander
http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=949
cinderella
03-04-2010, 08:06 PM
Underneath that 'macho', tough exterior, I like to think beats the heart of a 'softee' who doesn't want the world to know...then I could be totally wrong! lol
Yeah, I think you can handle it, Mr. toughguy, And if you do like it, you don't hafta admit it, and I promise not to tell anyone. ;)
gee......i dunnoooooo.....could be too sensitive....its a mighty big departure from war and insensitive, oppressive prison flixk....and certainly hoity-toity for my classlessness.....ya think i could handle it, comrade?
you think you could bring me around?
Underneath that 'macho', tough exterior, I like to think beats the heart of a 'softee' who doesn't want the world to know...then I could be totally wrong! lol
Yeah, I think you can handle it, Mr. toughguy, And if you do like it, you don't hafta admit it, and I promise not to tell anyone. ;)
see ya at the chick flick, comrade (hugs)
cinderella
03-04-2010, 08:11 PM
Yanno, Ol' Jet, I don't go to the movies anymore - I purchase whatever I have in my collection - and they tend to be the classics.
My personal opinion...I do not care for what's being churned out in so-called Hollywood these days, so I'm not up to par on what the latest movies are, so there's no point in my watching the Oscars. Personally, I think it's a waste of time. Other then the British films, I can't see anything being produced today worth watching - much less being 'awarded' anything! But again, that's my own personal opinion.
FYI Carmen, i opened the Oscars thread so people can vote and comment.
take a gander
http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=949
cinderella
03-04-2010, 08:15 PM
You forgot...The Front Page with James Stewart and Richard Conte...
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Flixmix-1.png
Four Big Prison Films!
Four True Stories!
Four Golden Decades of Classic Hollywood!
I Am a Fugitive From A Chain Gang,1932
Call Northside 777, 1948
Carbine Williams, 1952
Birdman of Alcatraz, 1962
Summaries
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang, 1932
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang is a pre-Code crime/drama in which Paul Muni stars as a wrongfully convicted convict on a chain gang who escapes to Chicago. The film was written by Howard J. Green and Brown Holmes from Robert Elliott Burns's autobiography, I Am a Fugitive from a Georgia Chain Gang that was serialised in True Detective magazine. It was directed by Mervyn LeRoy. In 1991, I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".
More on the real Robert Elliot Burns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Elliott_Burns
_________________________________________________
Call Northside 777, 1948
Call Northside 777 is a film noir directed by Henry Hathaway. It is based on the true story of a Chicago reporter who proved that a man who has been in prison for murder, was wrongly convicted 11 years before. James Stewart stars as the persistent Chicago journalist who proves Wiecek's innocence. This is a captivating story. Richard Conte plays the imprisoned Frank Wiecek, a character based on Joseph Majczek, who was wrongly convicted of the murder of a Chicago policeman in 1932, one of the worst years of organized crime during the Great Depression.
More on the real Joseph Majczek
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/wrongfulconvictions/exonerations/ilMajczekSummary.html
_________________________________________________
Carbine Williams, 1952
Carbine Williams is a biography directed by Richard Thorpe, starring James Stewart. The film follows the life of David Marshall Williams (James Stewart), who invented the semi-automatic M1 Carbine used in World War II. Williams was found distilling illegal moonshine, and was held responsible for the death of a federal officer during a raid on his still. He was sentenced to thirty years Hard Labor. He cycled through the prison system, until a firm, but compassionate warden, H.T. Peoples (Wendell Corey) allowed him to work in a prison tool shop. There he invented the gas system for his famous rifle, and eventually was released from prison in 1929 and worked with Winchester Firearms on development of the M1 Carbine. It's amazing to see how someone incarcerated, at a time the prison system was neandrathal, could develop and patent an advanced firearm used in war.
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Picture13-3.png
More on the real David Marshall "Carbine" Williams
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Marshall_Williams
______________________________________________
Birdman of Alcatraz, 1962
Birdman of Alcatraz, directed by John Frankenheimer, stars Burt Lancaster. It is a fictionalized version of the life of Robert Stroud, a federal prison inmate known as the "Birdman of Alcatraz" because of his life with birds. In spite of the title, much of the action is set at Leavenworth prison where Stroud was jailed with his birds. When moved to Alcatraz he was not allowed to keep any pets.
The film was adapted by Guy Trosper from the 1955 book by Thomas E. Gaddis. It was nominated for Academy Awards for Best Actor in a Leading Role (Burt Lancaster), Best Actor in a Supporting Role (Telly Savalas), Best Actress in a Supporting Role (Thelma Ritter) and Best Cinematography, Black-and-White. Stroud was never allowed to see the film. The movie is told in flashback, narrated by Gaddis (O'Brien), the author of the book upon which it is based.
More on Robert Stroud
http://www.alcatrazhistory.com/stroud.htm
YouTube- I AM A FUGITIVE FROM CHAINGANG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTBS9p829q8)
YouTube- The Birdman of Alcatraz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U0_Mj1GitI)
YouTube- Call Northside 777 - Chiamata Nord 777 (1948) Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlFBva0x_OY)
See ya at the movies....
Yanno, Ol' Jet, I don't go to the movies anymore - I purchase whatever I have in my collection - and they tend to be the classics.
My personal opinion...I do not care for what's being churned out in so-called Hollywood these days, so I'm not up to par on what the latest movies are, so there's no point in my watching the Oscars. Personally, I think it's a waste of time. Other then the British films, I can't see anything being produced today worth watching - much less being 'awarded' anything! But again, that's my own personal opinion.
The Blind Side is a wonderful true story. Good script, heartwarming story, and Sandra Bullock deserves to win, I don;t think she's ever won. What a performance. There's also two great actors from Precious. Now, i didn't like the movie at all..gritty, dark, depressing. But I need to say that Gabbie Sidibe and Mo'Nique who are up for Oscars, also deserve them. You feel it's way real when you watch them. Two terrific actors. Also, i'm pulling for Jeff Bridges in Crazy Heart. He's always been a great actor, never won and really delivers in the movie as a down and out, raw country singer on his last leg of his life. I see a lot of merit in these, and I enjoy people who i really admire have their moment in their craft.
cinderella
03-04-2010, 08:23 PM
Hey guy, how about The Naked City - one of the best film Noir of 1948. I love this film, not only because it's great, but it reminds me of my childhood in the lower East side of Manhattan in the 50's. I know those streets, I walked them as a child. This film has very special meaning for me - everytime I see it, it's like looking back into my past...
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Flixmix-1.png
Four Big Prison Films!
Four True Stories!
Four Golden Decades of Classic Hollywood!
I Am a Fugitive From A Chain Gang,1932
Call Northside 777, 1948
Carbine Williams, 1952
Birdman of Alcatraz, 1962
Summaries
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang, 1932
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang is a pre-Code crime/drama in which Paul Muni stars as a wrongfully convicted convict on a chain gang who escapes to Chicago. The film was written by Howard J. Green and Brown Holmes from Robert Elliott Burns's autobiography, I Am a Fugitive from a Georgia Chain Gang that was serialised in True Detective magazine. It was directed by Mervyn LeRoy. In 1991, I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".
More on the real Robert Elliot Burns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Elliott_Burns
_________________________________________________
Call Northside 777, 1948
Call Northside 777 is a film noir directed by Henry Hathaway. It is based on the true story of a Chicago reporter who proved that a man who has been in prison for murder, was wrongly convicted 11 years before. James Stewart stars as the persistent Chicago journalist who proves Wiecek's innocence. This is a captivating story. Richard Conte plays the imprisoned Frank Wiecek, a character based on Joseph Majczek, who was wrongly convicted of the murder of a Chicago policeman in 1932, one of the worst years of organized crime during the Great Depression.
More on the real Joseph Majczek
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/wrongfulconvictions/exonerations/ilMajczekSummary.html
_________________________________________________
Carbine Williams, 1952
Carbine Williams is a biography directed by Richard Thorpe, starring James Stewart. The film follows the life of David Marshall Williams (James Stewart), who invented the semi-automatic M1 Carbine used in World War II. Williams was found distilling illegal moonshine, and was held responsible for the death of a federal officer during a raid on his still. He was sentenced to thirty years Hard Labor. He cycled through the prison system, until a firm, but compassionate warden, H.T. Peoples (Wendell Corey) allowed him to work in a prison tool shop. There he invented the gas system for his famous rifle, and eventually was released from prison in 1929 and worked with Winchester Firearms on development of the M1 Carbine. It's amazing to see how someone incarcerated, at a time the prison system was neandrathal, could develop and patent an advanced firearm used in war.
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Picture13-3.png
More on the real David Marshall "Carbine" Williams
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Marshall_Williams
______________________________________________
Birdman of Alcatraz, 1962
Birdman of Alcatraz, directed by John Frankenheimer, stars Burt Lancaster. It is a fictionalized version of the life of Robert Stroud, a federal prison inmate known as the "Birdman of Alcatraz" because of his life with birds. In spite of the title, much of the action is set at Leavenworth prison where Stroud was jailed with his birds. When moved to Alcatraz he was not allowed to keep any pets.
The film was adapted by Guy Trosper from the 1955 book by Thomas E. Gaddis. It was nominated for Academy Awards for Best Actor in a Leading Role (Burt Lancaster), Best Actor in a Supporting Role (Telly Savalas), Best Actress in a Supporting Role (Thelma Ritter) and Best Cinematography, Black-and-White. Stroud was never allowed to see the film. The movie is told in flashback, narrated by Gaddis (O'Brien), the author of the book upon which it is based.
More on Robert Stroud
http://www.alcatrazhistory.com/stroud.htm
YouTube- I AM A FUGITIVE FROM CHAINGANG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTBS9p829q8)
YouTube- The Birdman of Alcatraz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U0_Mj1GitI)
YouTube- Call Northside 777 - Chiamata Nord 777 (1948) Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlFBva0x_OY)
See ya at the movies....
I love the Naked City. and along those gritty dark lines, DOA
cinderella
03-04-2010, 08:42 PM
Love DOA, own it, and watch it whenever it's on TCM. Edmond O'Brian looks just like an interior design instructor I had at FIT - I told him so, and he agreed...
Another great Noir film is Asphalt Jungle - love the grittiness, and absense of music in some crucial scenes in this film. It's the kind of film one doesn't forget that easily. Sam Jaffe was excellent in this, as was Sterling Heyden.
I love the Naked City. and along those gritty dark lines, DOA
cinderella
03-05-2010, 03:35 AM
correction - my post #194
I confused Northside 777 with The Front Page, my apologies.
In Northside 777 the magnification and enhancement of the front page of a newspaper to reveal a date (instrumental in proving the defendant's innocense, and thereby acquiting him), was such a major and important aspect of this film, that I always confuse the title and think of it as The Front Page, which is another movie entirely.
Apocalipstic
03-05-2010, 09:30 AM
Apocalipstic, I love PAPILLION!! I saw the film before I read the book...and it's a good thing I did! The movie was wonderful, but the book was extraordinary!!
OK, HEADS UP!!!! March 27, on TCM, the debut of one of the best love stories ever...Letter From An Unknown Woman...Louis Jordan's American film debut. Joan Fontain's personal favorite film, and it will be yours as well. I absolutely love this film. Hey, Ol' Jet, do you know know this film? IMO, one of the best of this genre.
Will have to check it out! Thank you! I usually don't do chick flicks, but if its Gothic and Noirish count me in!
I care more about the cinematography, sets, acting than I do the actual plot. The plot is secondary for me. Probably why I like Altman so much.
Louis Jordan cracks me UP!
Apocalipstic
03-05-2010, 09:32 AM
correction - my post #194
I confused Northside 777 with The Front Page, my apologies.
In Northside 777 the magnification and enhancement of the front page of a newspaper to reveal a date (instrumental in proving the defendant's innocense, and thereby acquiting him), was such a major and important aspect of this film, that I always confuse the title and think of it as The Front Page, which is another movie entirely.
I actually saw The Front Page at the theatre in Buenos Aires when it came out. I really enjoy Billy Wilder films too.
Opposite of Altman, very controlled.
cinderella
03-05-2010, 11:24 AM
HEADS UP ALL WWII AFFICIONADOS!!
Starting on Sunday, March 27 (not sure of the time, check your local schedules), HBO will present a 10-part mini-series: The Pacific. It is all about the Pacific theatre, and all the incidents pertaining to it.
It is a joint-production effort between Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. Those of you who are fans of WWII history, will love this. Just thought you might want to know.
Apocalipstic
03-05-2010, 11:28 AM
HEADS UP ALL WWII AFFICIONADOS!!
Starting on Sunday, March 27 (not sure of the time, check your local schedules), HBO will present a 10-part mini-series: The Pacific. It is all about the Pacific theatre, and all the incidents pertaining to it.
It is a joint-production effort between Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. Those of you who are fans of WWII history, will love this. Just thought you might want to know.
Thank you! That's so cool! Can't wait.
cinderella
03-05-2010, 11:32 AM
I don't know why I used to term 'Gothic' because it really isn't. And only 'Noirish' in the black & white cinematography...but as you said, if plot isn't a primary concern, you will love this film for the atmospheric ambiance, the sets and the costumes. I too love and appreciate all these things about film - I am always checking out who the set and costume designers are in a film. However, unlike you, I want a good plot as well - it has to hold my interest, otherwise all the other accoutrements are not enough to satisfy me. But when a film has all these aspects - wow!! what an experience to engage most of the senses!!
I'm curious...why does Louis Jordan crack you up? He has never done anything comedic to my knowledge, unless I've missed some of his movies. He was more the leading man - he was extremely handsome. Did you see him in his debut film 'The Paradine Case' (1947)? An Alfred Hitchcock film, starring Gregogy Peck, Ann Todd, Charles Laughton, Ethel Barrymore, Leo G. Carroll, Louis Jordan, and as Mrs. Paradine - the elusive Italian beauty Alida Valli - better known as just 'Alida'. Great film. If you haven't seen it, try and do. As usual, if it's a Hitchcock film, you can't go wrong.
Will have to check it out! Thank you! I usually don't do chick flicks, but if its Gothic and Noirish count me in!
I care more about the cinematography, sets, acting than I do the actual plot. The plot is secondary for me. Probably why I like Altman so much.
Louis Jordan cracks me UP!
I don't know why I used to term 'Gothic' because it really isn't. And only 'Noirish' in the black & white cinematography...but as you said, if plot isn't a primary concern, you will love this film for the atmospheric ambiance, the sets and the costumes. I too love and appreciate all these things about film - I am always checking out who the set and costume designers are in a film. However, unlike you, I want a good plot as well - it has to hold my interest, otherwise all the other accoutrements are not enough to satisfy me. But when a film has all these aspects - wow!! what an experience to engage most of the senses!!
I'm curious...why does Louis Jordan crack you up? He has never done anything comedic to my knowledge, unless I've missed some of his movies. He was more the leading man - he was extremely handsome. Did you see him in his debut film 'The Paradine Case' (1947)? An Alfred Hitchcock film, starring Gregogy Peck, Ann Todd, Charles Laughton, Ethel Barrymore, Leo G. Carroll, Louis Jordan, and as Mrs. Paradine - the elusive Italian beauty Alida Valli - better known as just 'Alida'. Great film. If you haven't seen it, try and do. As usual, if it's a Hitchcock film, you can't go wrong.
No honey, she's known as just Valli She didn't do a lot i know. Paradine Case is one of my favorites, too. I guess you know that.
Robert Altman did different things. I'm not really a fan, sort of like Stanley Kramer. They both did good things, I'm just not a real big fan of most of their things. See ya at the movies, comrades...
Apocalipstic
03-05-2010, 03:52 PM
I don't know why I used to term 'Gothic' because it really isn't. And only 'Noirish' in the black & white cinematography...but as you said, if plot isn't a primary concern, you will love this film for the atmospheric ambiance, the sets and the costumes. I too love and appreciate all these things about film - I am always checking out who the set and costume designers are in a film. However, unlike you, I want a good plot as well - it has to hold my interest, otherwise all the other accoutrements are not enough to satisfy me. But when a film has all these aspects - wow!! what an experience to engage most of the senses!!
I'm curious...why does Louis Jordan crack you up? He has never done anything comedic to my knowledge, unless I've missed some of his movies. He was more the leading man - he was extremely handsome. Did you see him in his debut film 'The Paradine Case' (1947)? An Alfred Hitchcock film, starring Gregogy Peck, Ann Todd, Charles Laughton, Ethel Barrymore, Leo G. Carroll, Louis Jordan, and as Mrs. Paradine - the elusive Italian beauty Alida Valli - better known as just 'Alida'. Great film. If you haven't seen it, try and do. As usual, if it's a Hitchcock film, you can't go wrong.
Atmospheric ambiance! I am there. :)
I do care about the plot, but it is not my main thing. I look at it from more of a Director and sometimes Producer angle....or as art.
I'm a huge Hitchcock fan, I studied him in college too. :)
Jordan? I don't know, maybe his facial expressions seem exagerated for me. When I see him, I can't help but giggle.
No honey, she's known as just Valli She didn't do a lot i know. Paradine Case is one of my favorites, too. I guess you know that.
Robert Altman did different things. I'm not really a fan, sort of like Stanley Kramer. They both did good things, I'm just not a real big fan of most of their things. See ya at the movies, comrades...
I like how Altman controlled every detail of the set, but let the actors do whatever...exactly the opposite of Hitchcock or Billy Wilder.
and...
Comrades makes me smile. :)
Atmospheric ambiance! I am there. :)
I do care about the plot, but it is not my main thing. I look at it from more of a Director and sometimes Producer angle....or as art.
I'm a huge Hitchcock fan, I studied him in college too. :)
Jordan? I don't know, maybe his facial expressions seem exagerated for me. When I see him, I can't help but giggle.
I like how Altman controlled every detail of the set, but let the actors do whatever...exactly the opposite of Hitchcock or Billy Wilder.
and...
Comrades makes me smile. :)
You know, actually Cecile DeMille was the same way. He was known for epics and controlled his story. But he expected actors to know what they were doing, so he was known not to really direct the acting.
Apocalipstic
03-05-2010, 04:09 PM
You know, actually Cecile DeMille was the same way. He was known for epics and controlled his story. But he expected actors to know what they were doing, so he was known not to really direct the acting.
I have not watched anything of his since college and I did not really study him. Perhaps this Spring. :)
cinderella
03-06-2010, 08:44 AM
You're absolutely right, snookums!! It was 'Valli' - my thinking is getting dyslexic in my old age! Thanks for correcting me. I also love The Paradine Case - there's just something about that film...can't put my finger on it - the music, the sets, Peck's facination with Valli...I don't know, but I always watch it when it's on. I have a copy of it on tape, but it's not a very good one. If it's on dvd, I may just buy it. I'll check Amazon.com, I get most of my dvd 'deals' on there. I've got to re-purchase Brief Encounter (you know that's my favorite film, Ol' Jet). The copy I had cracked. :(
I'm with you on Kubric - I always disliked 2001: A Space Odyssy, and never understood what all the hoopla was about...I quite never 'got it'.
As for Altman, I'm not sure I know his films...
No honey, she's known as just Valli She didn't do a lot i know. Paradine Case is one of my favorites, too. I guess you know that.
Robert Altman did different things. I'm not really a fan, sort of like Stanley Kramer. They both did good things, I'm just not a real big fan of most of their things. See ya at the movies, comrades...
cinderella
03-06-2010, 09:05 AM
Giggle? That's so odd...oh well. Whenever I see him, I swoon!
John Saxon had the same affect on me, tho he never did anything of great importance that I can remember. Oh, and Hawaiian-born James Shigeta - of Japanese ancestry - (Bride to the Sun - 1961) what a beautiful man! I guess I lean toward the 'dark & handsome' types, huh? Ok, now I'm rambling, lol
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Jordan? I don't know, maybe his facial expressions seem exagerated for me. When I see him, I can't help but giggle.
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cinderella
03-06-2010, 09:29 AM
Has anyone read The Alienist by Caleb Carr? What a fabulous movie that would make, and I'm wondering why someone hasn't 'jumped' on that one!! It's the story of an 'alienist' (old term for psychiatrist/psychoanalyst), and how he forms a band of 'sleuths' to investigate, track down, and capture the first known serial killer in old circa 1880's New York City. It is a facsinating and riviting tale, and if well executed, I think would be a block-buster. I am tempted to write Scorsese - it's just his kind of story!! He has the finnese (see The Age of Innocence), and the violent grittiness (see Raging Bull) to pull it off magnificently!!!
I would love to hear your comments/impressions of this story if you've read the book, and if you were casting it, who you'd pick - I personally see Daniel Day Lewis, or perhaps Jerramy Irons as Lazslo Krietzler (the alienist). If you haven't read this, you should - you will never forget it. It is a grizly and gritty tale that is a sure page-turner - you won't be able to put it down!! Young boy prostitute's dismembered bodies are turning up all over the city, and the police don't have a clue as to how to start solving these crimes. Steps in Dr. Krietzler and his unorthodox methods of solving the crimes - first indication of forensic science and it's methodology.
cinderella
03-06-2010, 12:15 PM
On TCM Tonight - all times EST
5:30pm - On the Beach: Gregory Peck, Ava Gardner, Fred Astair, Anthony Perkins
8:00pm - A Streetcar Named Desire
10:15: Somebody Up There Likes Me
For the Nightowls
12:15am - Saturday Night Fever (yet again!! *groan*)
2:30am - Blackboard Jungle
4:15am - The Killers: Burt Lancaster, Ava Gardner
Martina
03-06-2010, 01:27 PM
HEADS UP ALL WWII AFFICIONADOS!!
Starting on Sunday, March 27 (not sure of the time, check your local schedules), HBO will present a 10-part mini-series: The Pacific. It is all about the Pacific theatre, and all the incidents pertaining to it.
It is a joint-production effort between Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. Those of you who are fans of WWII history, will love this. Just thought you might want to know.
Thanks!! i didn't know that. i will check it out. i just read an article in The New Yorker about a journalist who covered the B-29 firebombing raids of Japan that preceded the nuclear strike. i had never heard about them. It was fascinating stuff. It also makes you think that the nuclear strike was not necessary if these runs could wreak this much damage.
Giggle? That's so odd...oh well. Whenever I see him, I swoon!
John Saxon had the same affect on me, tho he never did anything of great importance that I can remember. Oh, and Hawaiian-born James Shigeta - of Japanese ancestry - (Bride to the Sun - 1961) what a beautiful man! I guess I lean toward the 'dark & handsome' types, huh? Ok, now I'm rambling, lol
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Jordan? I don't know, maybe his facial expressions seem exagerated for me. When I see him, I can't help but giggle.
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they have the same effect on me being the gay man that i am, giggle. maybe we can talk shoes sometime, carmen. we'll do lunch. my pic is john gavin out of those hunky 50s types.
Martina
03-06-2010, 01:48 PM
I'm curious...why does Louis Jordan crack you up? He has never done anything comedic to my knowledge, unless I've missed some of his movies. He was more the leading man - he was extremely handsome.
Louis Jordan actually cracks me up. He reminds me of Pepe LePew.
i am just catching up on this thread. But i am not a noir fan. i love the melodramas. Some of them are NOT good films, but i love them all.
Giant -- it really is a melodrama
All That Heaven Allows
Written on the Wind
Magnificent Obsession
All About Eve
The Best Years of Our Lives
Black Narcissus
The Long, Hot Summer
Louis Jordan actually cracks me up. He reminds me of Pepe LePew.
i am just catching up on this thread. But i am not a noir fan. i love the melodramas. Some of them are NOT good films, but i love them all.
Giant -- it really is a melodrama
All That Heaven Allows
Written on the Wind
Magnificent Obsession
All About Eve
The Best Years of Our Lives
Black Narcissus
The Long, Hot Summer
the best years of our lives in NOT a melodrama. it's a post war docu-drama by Wyler who did it as an account of the plight of returning servicemen and a changing America at the time. there's nothig melodramatic about it. it's also my favorite movie of all time and one of the best ever made IMO with 9 Oscars in 1946.
Julien
03-06-2010, 02:09 PM
the best years of our lives in NOT a melodrama. it's a post war docu-drama by Wyler who did it as an account of the plight of returning servicemen and a changing America at the time. there's nothig melodramatic about it. it's also my favorite movie of all time and one of the best ever made IMO with 9 Oscars in 1946.
I agree, The Best Years of Our Lives is an excellent film. I use it in my Film Studies classes for a discussion of women's lives during WWII.
I agree, The Best Years of Our Lives is an excellent film. I use it in my Film Studies classes for a discussion of women's lives during WWII.
I have always loved its unpretentiousness in its characters and story. It's an honest account of the times and a no frills approach to the subject matter. To me, it's about men, soldiers and their point of view. As a transgendered man, I get that and I like that a lot.
Martina
03-06-2010, 02:42 PM
the best years of our lives in NOT a melodrama. it's a post war docu-drama by Wyler who did it as an account of the plight of returning servicemen and a changing America at the time. there's nothig melodramatic about it. it's also my favorite movie of all time and one of the best ever made IMO with 9 Oscars in 1946.
google melodrama and the title. You'll see a lot of people refer to it this way. Melodramas don't have to be weepies or have to portray exaggerated emotion or be full of stereotyped characters. They usually are sentimental. They are about relationships and emotions generally. They often focus on domestic life or work relationships. And there is often a social critique element. They CAN be realistic.
Julien
03-06-2010, 04:17 PM
Has anyone read The Alienist by Caleb Carr? What a fabulous movie that would make, and I'm wondering why someone hasn't 'jumped' on that one!! It's the story of an 'alienist' (old term for psychiatrist/psychoanalyst), and how he forms a band of 'sleuths' to investigate, track down, and capture the first known serial killer in old circa 1880's New York City. It is a facsinating and riviting tale, and if well executed, I think would be a block-buster. I am tempted to write Scorsese - it's just his kind of story!! He has the finnese (see The Age of Innocence), and the violent grittiness (see Raging Bull) to pull it off magnificently!!!
I would love to hear your comments/impressions of this story if you've read the book, and if you were casting it, who you'd pick - I personally see Daniel Day Lewis, or perhaps Jerramy Irons as Lazslo Krietzler (the alienist). If you haven't read this, you should - you will never forget it. It is a grizly and gritty tale that is a sure page-turner - you won't be able to put it down!! Young boy prostitute's dismembered bodies are turning up all over the city, and the police don't have a clue as to how to start solving these crimes. Steps in Dr. Krietzler and his unorthodox methods of solving the crimes - first indication of forensic science and it's methodology.
The Alienist good book. Although I read it years ago, I still remember the storyline and great writing. I think it would be a good film. As for the leads, I'd have to reread it to get a sense of who could be in it. Thanks for reminding me of the book, I'll have to pick it up again.
google melodrama and the title. You'll see a lot of people refer to it this way. Melodramas don't have to be weepies or have to portray exaggerated emotion or be full of stereotyped characters. They usually are sentimental. They are about relationships and emotions generally. They often focus on domestic life or work relationships. And there is often a social critique element. They CAN be realistic.
its not a melodrama, its a docudrama
Martina
03-06-2010, 05:44 PM
its not a melodrama, its a docudrama
No, it is not. A docudrama is a reenactment of actual events. The screenplay for The Best Years of Our Lives was based on a novel in verse called Glory for Me.
No, it is not. A docudrama is a reenactment of actual events. The screenplay for The Best Years of Our Lives was based on a novel in verse called Glory for Me.
actual events were chronicled in the genre of the times, the plight of servicemen based on the actual lives of servicemen who came home to joblessness, disruptive homes, infidelity and displacement. Robert Sherwood wrote it that way for the purpose of honoring and empathizing with men who had served their country only to come to a change in the home front and American attitudes. Wyler's intent was to chronicle and depict the way American servicemen were treated after the war in addition to depicting how the war had changed America. Those are facts and that's a docu-drama if there ever was one. But you can think what ever want, I'm not interested in arguing with you. And I'm not going to continue debating with you because I didn't open this as a debate thread.
Martina
03-06-2010, 06:13 PM
Docudramas are not based on representative events but on actual events as they transpired, for example the raid on Entebbe. The filler in docudramas is just dialogue no one knows about. Sometimes liberties are taken with timelines for the sake of entertainment value, but they are based on actual events with real people and supposedly pretty much as they occurred. The characters in Best Years of Our Lives are fictional.
There is a dictionary of film genres online, or there used to be. i sent students to it when i taught American Film Genres years ago at The University of Michigan.
i am not debating you at all. This is the accepted definition.
cinderella
03-06-2010, 06:41 PM
Ah, now I understand why you don't like Marilyn!! lol
[quote=cinderella;61708]Giggle? That's so odd...oh well. Whenever I see him, I swoon!
John Saxon had the same affect on me, tho he never did anything of great importance that I can remember. Oh, and Hawaiian-born James Shigeta - of Japanese ancestry - (Bride to the Sun - 1961) what a beautiful man! I guess I lean toward the 'dark & handsome' types, huh? Ok, now I'm rambling, lol
they have the same effect on me being the gay man that i am, giggle. maybe we can talk shoes sometime, carmen. we'll do lunch. my pic is john gavin out of those hunky 50s types.
Docudramas are not based on representative events but on actual events as they transpired, for example the raid on Entebbe. The filler in docudramas is just dialogue no one knows about. Sometimes liberties are taken with timelines for the sake of entertainment value, but they are based on actual events with real people and supposedly pretty much as they occurred. The characters in Best Years of Our Lives are fictional.
There is a dictionary of film genres online, or there used to be. i sent students to it when i taught American Film Genres years ago at The University of Michigan.
i am not debating you at all. This is the accepted definition.
Again, I don't care. it is based on the lives of real servicemen who came home and faced challenges that were real and existed, post war. And I would suggest that if, in film studies it is regarded as a melodrama, they change that definition because it conveys and depicts the life and times of post-war America. Frankly, I don't care if this movie is a docudrama a melodrama or a black comedy. I could care less, what's it's classified as because this movie doesn't speak to me as a film. It speaks to me as transman; and it's close to my heart as WWII hobbyist, a history buff, and the fact that it's sensitive socially and consciously from guys and film makers who were in the war and who cared enough about servicemen facing new challenges. I don't have to accept any other definition for these reasons which are good enough for me.
cinderella
03-06-2010, 06:50 PM
Pepe LePew!!! *Gasp* I am shocked!!! I swear, I never see anything comic about this man, but I'll bet you'll have an influence on my reaction next time I see him - I'll remember your comments, and by mental suggestion, God forbid - I'll giggle too!!! Oh, you two are baaaad!!!
Good choices Martina, but I would agree, most would fall under the 'melodrama' genre...
Louis Jordan actually cracks me up. He reminds me of Pepe LePew.
Giant -- it really is a melodrama
All That Heaven Allows
Written on the Wind
Magnificent Obsession
All About Eve
The Best Years of Our Lives
Black Narcissus
The Long, Hot Summer
cinderella
03-06-2010, 06:55 PM
This film by any other name, category, what-have-you, speaks to my heart as well. I love it, and I think it's one of the best films of this post-war, hero-coming-home-to-face-the-realities-of-life-back-home genre ever made.
Whenever it's on I will watch it. It always makes my eyes well up. I love the down-home sensitivity of it.
Again, I don't care. it is based on the lives of real servicemen who came home and faced challenges that were real and existed, post war. And I would suggest that if, in film studies it is regarded as a melodrama, they change that definition because it conveys and depicts the life and times of post-war America. Frankly, I don't care if this movie is a docudrama a melodrama or a black comedy. I could care less, what's it's classified as because this movie doesn't speak to me as a film. It speaks to me as transman; and it's close to my heart as WWII hobbyist, a history buff, and the fact that it's sensitive socially and consciously from guys and film makers who were in the war and who cared enough about servicemen facing new challenges. I don't have to accept any other definition for these reasons which are good enough for me.
This film by any other name, category, what-have-you, speaks to my heart as well. I love it, and I think it's one of the best films of this post-war, hero-coming-home-to-face-the-realities-of-life-back-home genre ever made.
Whenever it's on I will watch it. It always makes my eyes well up. I love the down-home sensitivity of it.
I do too comrade. There's just something about that era.
Miss Scarlett
03-06-2010, 09:35 PM
Again, I don't care. it is based on the lives of real servicemen who came home and faced challenges that were real and existed, post war. And I would suggest that if, in film studies it is regarded as a melodrama, they change that definition because it conveys and depicts the life and times of post-war America. Frankly, I don't care if this movie is a docudrama a melodrama or a black comedy. I could care less, what's it's classified as because this movie doesn't speak to me as a film. It speaks to me as transman; and it's close to my heart as WWII hobbyist, a history buff, and the fact that it's sensitive socially and consciously from guys and film makers who were in the war and who cared enough about servicemen facing new challenges. I don't have to accept any other definition for these reasons which are good enough for me.
The first time I saw this film I cried like a baby. I think that we forget that there is a life after the welcome home and sometimes that life is more frightening than the war itself. Fred just broke my heart even more than Homer.
Comrades, my idol....
William Wyler.
There isn't one of his films, I haven't enjoyed and admired.
YouTube- William Wyler Interview with daughter Catherine Wyler
William Wyler's first film was 1925.
Here are a few of his most memorable:
Funny Girl (1968)
How to Steal a Million (1966)
The Collector (1965)
The Children's Hour (1961)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Big Country (1958)
Friendly Persuasion (1956)
The Desperate Hours (1955)
Roman Holiday (1953)
Carrie (1952)
Detective Story (1951)
The Heiress (1949)
Thunderbolt (1947) (as Lt Col William Wyler)
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
The Fighting Lady (1944) (uncredited)
The Memphis Belle: A Story of a Flying Fortress (1944)
Mrs. Miniver (1942)
The Little Foxes (1941)
The Letter (1940)
The Westerner (1940)
Wuthering Heights (1939)
Jezebel (1938)
weatherboi
03-07-2010, 08:23 AM
YouTube- To Sir With Love by Lulu and Dance by Sydney Poitier
cinderella
03-08-2010, 08:45 PM
Hey, Ol' Jet, did you catch the Warner Brothers documentary tonight? Unfortunately, I caught it midstream, but it was very interesting and insightful. Boy, that Jack L. was something, wasn't he? Not a very nice guy...however, I did like what they said about Harry, he was an altruistic human being in touch with life and people. I know I would have liked him alot - Jack, maybe not so much...
Hey, Ol' Jet, did you catch the Warner Brothers documentary tonight? Unfortunately, I caught it midstream, but it was very interesting and insightful. Boy, that Jack L. was something, wasn't he? Not a very nice guy...however, I did like what they said about Harry, he was an altruistic human being in touch with life and people. I know I would have liked him alot - Jack, not so much...
I didn't get to see it; still in the middle of a workout watching a movie on my 'puter. but i know jack was a shit. He and battling Betty , you know...
cinderella
03-08-2010, 08:50 PM
Battling Betty? Not sure what you mean by that? Lauren Bacall problem? Or could you have possibly been referring to Bette Davis? We know she did her best, but lost. However, Miss deHaviland tried her hand and won! But, I'm sure you know all of that...
Ok. The Jazz Singer is now on TCM. I've never seen it so I think I'll give it a shot. Supposedly a 'landmark' film, introducing sound, or did it really?
I didn't get to see it; still in the middle of a workout watching a movie on my 'puter. but i know jack was a shit. He and battling Betty , you know...
Battling Betty? Not sure what you mean by that? Lauren Bacall problem? Or could you have possibly been referring to Bette Davis? We know she did her best, but lost. However, Miss deHaviland tried her hand and won! But, I'm sure you know all of that...
Ok. The Jazz Singer is now on TCM. I've never seen it so I think I'll give it a shot. Supposedly a 'landmark' film, introducing sound, or did it really?
Bette, sorry. have fun
cinderella
03-08-2010, 09:06 PM
Sorry, not having much fun at all. Have the ol' jazz singer in the living room, but I'm way in the back of the house where the computer is...
I'm lonesome, and wanting company - slim pickins just about now...
Bette, sorry. have fun
Apocalipstic
03-09-2010, 09:17 AM
Pepe LePew!!! *Gasp* I am shocked!!! I swear, I never see anything comic about this man, but I'll bet you'll have an influence on my reaction next time I see him - I'll remember your comments, and by mental suggestion, God forbid - I'll giggle too!!! Oh, you two are baaaad!!!
Good choices Martina, but I would agree, most would fall under the 'melodrama' genre...
Sorry to ruin Jordan for you, but glad you will think of us next time you see him :)
Comrades, my idol....
William Wyler.
There isn't one of his films, I haven't enjoyed and admired.
YouTube- William Wyler Interview with daughter Catherine Wyler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJP3ZzOpt6k)
William Wyler's first film was 1925.
Here are a few of his most memorable:
Funny Girl (1968)
How to Steal a Million (1966)
The Collector (1965)
The Children's Hour (1961)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Big Country (1958)
Friendly Persuasion (1956)
The Desperate Hours (1955)
Roman Holiday (1953)
Carrie (1952)
Detective Story (1951)
The Heiress (1949)
Thunderbolt (1947) (as Lt Col William Wyler)
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
The Fighting Lady (1944) (uncredited)
The Memphis Belle: A Story of a Flying Fortress (1944)
Mrs. Miniver (1942)
The Little Foxes (1941)
The Letter (1940)
The Westerner (1940)
Wuthering Heights (1939)
Jezebel (1938)
Some wonderful films there, I especially enjoy Jezebel and The Children's Hour.
I used to get his name and Billy Wilder's mixed up.
YouTube- To Sir With Love by Lulu and Dance by Sydney Poitier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7gBpkp3aHA)
I LOVE that movie! :)
cinderella
03-09-2010, 09:39 AM
Nah, you didn't ruin Louis for me...
Yanno, I always get their names mixed up too, because they're so similar. I just keep reminding myself that it was Wyler Bette Davis had an affair with! It's so much easier for me to remember things when there's a scandal attached to it. lol
I too love the list of Wyler's films you have here, Ol' Jet. I'd be hard put to pick a favorite, but if I needed to, I think it would be The Little Foxes...I have never seen such evil portrayed as the scene where Herbert Marshall is crawling up the stairs trying to get to his heart medicine, while Bette listens without turning to look at his desperate climb - it's all in her eyes!!! Unbelievable!!! That is the most riveting performance without dialogue I've ever seen!!
Sorry to ruin Jordan for you, but glad you will think of us next time you see him :)
I used to get his name and Billy Wilder's mixed up.
Apocalipstic
03-09-2010, 10:24 AM
Nah, you didn't ruin Louis for me...
Yanno, I always get their names mixed up too, because they're so similar. I just keep reminding myself that it was Wyler Bette Davis had an affair with! It's so much easier for me to remember things when there's a scandal attached to it. lol
I too love the list of Wyler's films you have here, Ol' Jet. I'd be hard put to pick a favorite, but if I needed to, I think it would be The Little Foxes...I have never seen such evil portrayed as the scene where Herbert Marshall is crawling up the stairs trying to get to his heart medicine, while Bette listens without turning to look at his desperate climb - it's all in her eyes!!! Unbelievable!!! That is the most riveting performance without dialogue I've ever seen!!
I love a good scandal too! Thank you!
:lips:
cinderella
03-10-2010, 10:16 PM
Not a movie...but I just had to post this.
YouTube- Abbott and Costello Who's On First
cinderella
03-11-2010, 05:10 AM
Ok, it's 6am EST, and I haven't been to bed since 5pm last night, and just can't fall asleep. So, I am watching my favorite channel on TV, and being the fanatic I am for classic Hollywood films, the only channel worth watching is TCM (Turner Classic Movies) - in case you didn't know by now.
That said, I must report...it''s been a lovely very late evening/very early morning on TCM - Rogers and Astair, how could it possible get any better?
I just finished watching 'Follow the Fleet' - a favorite since childhood when me and my sister used to watch it on Saturday mornings on 'Million Dollar Movie' in the 60's.
Nothing short of liquid poetry in motion, Rogers & Astair. I am posting one of my favorites: 'Let's Face the Music and Dance'. My only criticism is that I wish it was Astair's voice instead of Nat King Cole's we hear in this vid. This is a montage of several films. I tried finding a sole version of them doing the 'Let's Face the Music...' routine, but couldn't find it.
YouTube- Fred & Ginger: Lets' face the music and dance
An actress I really like is Jean Arthur.
Really cute, but underrated.
She did some nice work.
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Picture11-2.png
cinderella
03-11-2010, 09:53 PM
Yes, I love her too. She was great in Frank Capra's 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington'.
An actress I really like is Jean Arthur.
Really cute, but underrated.
She did some nice work.
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/lionoflionsman/Picture11-2.png
Love scene from Ryan's Daughter
considered to be one of the most sensuous on film.
David Lean directed and it had the most beautiful main title.
I saw it at the theatre when it was released in the 70's.
YouTube- La Figlia di Ryan - D.Lean
cinderella
03-12-2010, 05:44 PM
Never saw it...now, I must. Wasn't Fred Astair in this? Or am I confusing it with another film?
Love scene from Ryan's Daughter
considered to be one of the most sensuous on film.
David Lean directed and it had the most beautiful main title.
I saw it at the theatre when it was released in the 70's.
YouTube- La Figlia di Ryan - D.Lean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZdDMXw42S0)
Never saw it...now, I must. Wasn't Fred Astair in this? Or am I confusing it with another film?
no. watch the clip.
cinderella
03-12-2010, 06:07 PM
I did, not good for my equilibrium...
Oh, yes, it was Finian's Rainbow Fred was in...it's the Irish names that confuse me...
no. watch the clip.
Nah, you didn't ruin Louis for me...
Yanno, I always get their names mixed up too, because they're so similar. I just keep reminding myself that it was Wyler Bette Davis had an affair with! It's so much easier for me to remember things when there's a scandal attached to it. lol
I too love the list of Wyler's films you have here, Ol' Jet. I'd be hard put to pick a favorite, but if I needed to, I think it would be The Little Foxes...I have never seen such evil portrayed as the scene where Herbert Marshall is crawling up the stairs trying to get to his heart medicine, while Bette listens without turning to look at his desperate climb - it's all in her eyes!!! Unbelievable!!! That is the most riveting performance without dialogue I've ever seen!!
That seen in The Little Foxes is pretty close to the ice heart of Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, remember Joan gasping and reaching for help? I'm a fan of The Little Foxes because it was written by Lillian Hellman who also wrote Watch on the Rhine and The Children's Hour. I think she was married to Daschiell Hammet (sp)
cinderella
03-12-2010, 06:14 PM
Hmmm, married to Dashiell Hammett, could be, don't know for sure...
Yes, that scene in The Little Foxes, it is a tour de force for Bette, I think. No dialogue yet so intense and riveting. Reminds me also of the scene in The Letter, where Bette goes to see 'the woman', and she makes Bette stoop down to pick up 'the letter'. The Letter is another phenomenal Davis film, I love it!
That seen in The Little Foxes is pretty close to the ice heart of Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, remember Joan gasping and reaching for help? I'm a fan of The Little Foxes because it was written by Lillian Hellman who also wrote Watch on the Rhine and The Children's Hour. I think she was married to Daschiell Hammet (sp)
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