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suebee
01-20-2010, 07:16 AM
Those poor people. They didn't need this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cb_haiti_earthquake).

Sachita
01-20-2010, 07:30 AM
They said it could happen. Its a shame. It all worries me.

Diva
01-20-2010, 08:20 AM
It was the first thing I heard when I sat down with my coffee this morning and I just could not believe it!

How much more can these poor people take? It must be so insane down there.....God bless Haiti...... :praying:

Andrew, Jr.
01-20-2010, 09:45 AM
Sad News.

Andrew

Ryobi
01-20-2010, 11:44 AM
PLEASE, PLEASE! If you are (illegal) drug free, please visit your local Red Cross and give blood. It doesn't take long and is mostly painless. And, it's good for you. That small donation could be a huge gift to someone.

Linus
01-20-2010, 11:47 AM
Wow. This gets harder and harder: Haiti's Women's Movement loses 3 leaders due to Quake (http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/01/20/haitian.womens.movement.mourns/index.html?hpt=C1)

And unfortunately, I can't give blood (apparently being trans bars you for life) but I will donate funds to ensure my company can make a larger donation (they setup a fund where they match employees donations.

Diva
01-23-2010, 06:50 AM
Watching CNN right now (6:45 am/Saturday 1.23.10) and here is some of what I've heard:

* Over 100,000 have died.

* The Haitian government has now called off the search for survivors.

* At the airport, there are stacks and stacks of medicines and infant formula....waiting.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta just went to the airport with a cart and got as much as he could carry ~ and they gave it to him! ~ and took it back to a hospital.

* The UN reports that they pulled about 130 from the rubble....is that it? That blew me away. I just knew it would be more than that. But I guess that speaks to just how devastating it is.

I can't even imagine the logistical nightmare. Who's in charge? Does it make sense to call off the search? Could there be a chance that someone might still be alive?

* There was a report of a 109 year old woman who was rescued by a granddaughter.....smiling. She was blind, but said she was here to celebrate her 110th birthday. :)

Sachita
01-23-2010, 09:38 AM
Wow. This gets harder and harder: Haiti's Women's Movement loses 3 leaders due to Quake (http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/01/20/haitian.womens.movement.mourns/index.html?hpt=C1)

And unfortunately, I can't give blood (apparently being trans bars you for life) but I will donate funds to ensure my company can make a larger donation (they setup a fund where they match employees donations.

I didn't know that. why is that? why can't a trans give blood?

Blaze
01-23-2010, 10:33 AM
It's really tuff out there, one of my Doctors returned, said he still cannot get the stench of death off his clothes, suitcase and lungs... There in dire need of so many medical supplies. My employer bought 25 thousand dollars of pain med's, gauze and crutches, and all the other necessities and yet it didn't even seem like very much when we packed them in the plane, darn the pharmaceutical people for making medical items so damn expensive for the common people and you know that there making millions on pennies of items. Our group will be leaving Monday/Tues. for a four day tour, there worried about our health too, I really don't care about my health, there are thousands and thousands who need medical attention. And to the shippers and airlines that will not help, you all suck too! Good thing we have private jets to help take supplies needed. Haiti will need more than prayers, they need us!

Soon
01-23-2010, 12:10 PM
I didn't know that. why is that? why can't a trans give blood?

I've never heard this before, either.

I'm also curious about Linus' statement.

Hudson
01-23-2010, 01:05 PM
Wow. This gets harder and harder: Haiti's Women's Movement loses 3 leaders due to Quake (http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/01/20/haitian.womens.movement.mourns/index.html?hpt=C1)

And unfortunately, I can't give blood (apparently being trans bars you for life) but I will donate funds to ensure my company can make a larger donation (they setup a fund where they match employees donations.

I didn't know that. why is that? why can't a trans give blood?

I've never heard this before, either.

I'm also curious about Linus' statement.


Since the AIDS crisis of the 1980's, the FDA has banned all men who've had sex with another male since 1977 from donating blood. This 1985 provision argued that men who have sex with other men are at higher risk of contracting and transmitting HIV (through anal intercourse) and hepatitis, posing a health risk to potential recipients. This honestly isn't fair, labeling gay/bi/transexual men/women more susceptible to contracting and transmitting HIV/AIDS.

In other words, a pre or post-op MTF who goes down to the Red Cross has to answer a questionnaire honestly stating whether or not has had sexual contact with a man. Given that she's "biologically/genetically/DNA-wise, male to the Red Cross", it's considered "gay sex", particularly anal penetration. Doesn't matter if it was a million years ago, protected, with non-infected partner, if you've had regular negative tests and they even retest the blood, they still won't accept it.

The same would apply to FTMs who have had or do have sex with men, particularly anal, pass as male and have had all documents/gender marker changed. Those FTMs who have never had sex with men would not be affected, I would think. It really discriminates against gay men and trans women, not lesbians and trans men.

This is the way I understand the policy. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Soon
01-23-2010, 01:13 PM
Since the AIDS crisis of the 1980's, the FDA has banned all men who've had sex with another male since 1977 from donating blood. This 1985 provision argued that men who have sex with other men are at higher risk of contracting and transmitting HIV (through anal intercourse) and hepatitis, posing a health risk to potential recipients. This honestly isn't fair, labeling gay/bi/transexual men/women more susceptible to contracting and transmitting HIV/AIDS. In other words, a pre or post-op MTF who goes down to the Red Cross has to answer a questionnaire honestly stating whether or not has had sexual contact with a man. Given that she's "biologically/genetically/DNA-wise, male to the Red Cross", it's considered "gay sex", particularly anal penetration. Doesn't matter if it was a million years ago, protected, with non-infected partner, if you've had regular negative tests and they even retest the blood, they still won't accept it.

The same would apply to FTMs who have had or do have sex with men, particularly anal, pass as male and have had all documents/gender marker changed. Those FTMs who have never had sex with men would not be affected, I would think.

This is the way I understand the policy. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, there is also a policy (wrong, imo) in Canada that bans gay men from giving blood.


But, the way Linus wrote his statement reads to me that being trans is SOLE the reason for being banned from giving blood.

I get what you are saying, though. If one presents as a man, gives ID with gender marker changed to male, and answer the questions about having sex with a man since a certain year, then, yes, no blood could be given.

cerys
01-23-2010, 01:16 PM
If rescue teams were still pulling out live victims yesterday, I think it's too early to give up. It's amazing that people are still being found alive after 11 days, but just because the chance goes down doesn't mean there isn't any chance.

Sachita
01-23-2010, 04:48 PM
If rescue teams were still pulling out live victims yesterday, I think it's too early to give up. It's amazing that people are still being found alive after 11 days, but just because the chance goes down doesn't mean there isn't any chance.

I know, this is amazing. Did you see that little boy? Really amazing.

Jet
01-23-2010, 06:15 PM
every bit helps so I'm posting this here as well as 2 other threads:


Significantly raising the charity stakes: All of the musical performances for the event will be available for $.99 per song through Apple's iTunes store--with all proceeds benefitting Haiti through Hope For Haiti Now charities.
Check out iTunes for more information!

Much more information about this very worthy cause can be had at http://www.hopeforhaitinow.org/.

Blaze
01-29-2010, 08:09 PM
Words will never be able to describe what happened there. Speechless is something that I *Never* am, but for once, the world came to a screeching halt...
Utter chaos is not even close to what happened.
Desperation is an understatement.
Lack of supplies? Yes.
Lack of government assistance? Yes.
Lack of clean oxygen to breath? Yes.
Emotional melt downs? Yes.
Worst thing one has ever experienced? Yes
Children confused? Yes, yet they have a strong survival mold to overcome and smile and play.
Not enough volunteers to help everyone? Yes.
Do I want to discuss my feelings about everything? Not really.
Out of thousands, we could only help 40 per day, that really sucked!

Corkey
01-29-2010, 08:29 PM
Words will never be able to describe what happened there. Speechless is something that I *Never* am, but for once, the world came to a screeching halt...
Utter chaos is not even close to what happened.
Desperation is an understatement.
Lack of supplies? Yes.
Lack of government assistance? Yes.
Lack of clean oxygen to breath? Yes.
Emotional melt downs? Yes.
Worst thing one has ever experienced? Yes
Children confused? Yes, yet they have a strong survival mold to overcome and smile and play.
Not enough volunteers to help everyone? Yes.
Do I want to discuss my feelings about everything? Not really.
Out of thousands, we could only help 40 per day, that really sucked!



At least you were able to help those you could. Blaze take your time to process what you experienced, it is overwhelming. I wish for you sleep and no dreams.

Blaze
01-30-2010, 08:48 AM
At least you were able to help those you could. Blaze take your time to process what you experienced, it is overwhelming. I wish for you sleep and no dreams.

Thank you my friend. I will take that wish deep to heart! Dreams I hope not to have, but nightmares are evident. And can't really sleep when you know that there is so much more to be done there, it will take months and years to reestablish a stable ground and hope there. Next tour, we think that we can get better planning and get to the area's that are in dire need of help, so that is the plus side.
The news may have slowed down, but the need will always be very prevalent. Lot's of miracles were seen, as long as they can keep the Doctors that can reset and fix and take the amputation doctors farrrrrrrrrrr away from there!
And mark my words, there are way to many Docs that want to amputate instead of trying to reset and heal because there is truly not enough medical supplies to work properly with.

Diva
01-30-2010, 09:57 AM
Words will never be able to describe what happened there. Speechless is something that I *Never* am, but for once, the world came to a screeching halt...
Utter chaos is not even close to what happened.
Desperation is an understatement.
Lack of supplies? Yes.
Lack of government assistance? Yes.
Lack of clean oxygen to breath? Yes.
Emotional melt downs? Yes.
Worst thing one has ever experienced? Yes
Children confused? Yes, yet they have a strong survival mold to overcome and smile and play.
Not enough volunteers to help everyone? Yes.
Do I want to discuss my feelings about everything? Not really.
Out of thousands, we could only help 40 per day, that really sucked!




When were You there, Blaze?

Blaze
01-30-2010, 10:04 AM
When were You there, Blaze?



Monday we left at 11:20 PM came back Thursday 10:50 PM, and will have to go back when we can come up with a better plan of tactics. The good thing is Phone catches the web, so I could still check on what was happening on the Planet, that made me feel at home while away from home.

Diva
01-30-2010, 10:15 AM
Monday we left at 11:20 PM came back Thursday 10:50 PM, and will have to go back when we can come up with a better plan of tactics. The good thing is Phone catches the web, so I could still check on what was happening on the Planet, that made me feel at home while away from home.


That's good....I kept waiting for reports! <giggle>

Here. Have a sock. :sock:

Is a major dilemma there now infection?

Sachita
01-30-2010, 10:31 AM
Thank you my friend. I will take that wish deep to heart! Dreams I hope not to have, but nightmares are evident. And can't really sleep when you know that there is so much more to be done there, it will take months and years to reestablish a stable ground and hope there. Next tour, we think that we can get better planning and get to the area's that are in dire need of help, so that is the plus side.
The news may have slowed down, but the need will always be very prevalent. Lot's of miracles were seen, as long as they can keep the Doctors that can reset and fix and take the amputation doctors farrrrrrrrrrr away from there!
And mark my words, there are way to many Docs that want to amputate instead of trying to reset and heal because there is truly not enough medical supplies to work properly with.

that sucks. take care and be safe. my prayers are with you

Blaze
01-30-2010, 10:42 AM
That's good....I kept waiting for reports! <giggle>

Here. Have a sock. :sock:

Is a major dilemma there now infection?

Sorry about no reports, but heck, even the news media has cut back. And in truth, they should be there now, showing what's going on. And to your question; Yes infections are numerous, there still is no running (clean water) the Flies are a major issue, hygiene is absent. Many have deep cuts and no one to help with even the basics of Band-Aid or creme's of any kind so yes, infections are overwhelming. The tent camps have no sanitation, most were starving even before the earth quake so that didn't help. I wanted to share info from there, but in truth, I couldn't stomach let alone comprehend how a nation with so little could have a government that cared less for there own. When I did have time to rest, all I could do was wallow in the sadness that these poor people deal with daily. So even if I could have shared with you all at that time, I couldn't bare to tell the truth of what I seen at that time....

Blaze
01-30-2010, 10:44 AM
That's good....I kept waiting for reports! <giggle>

Here. Have a sock. :sock:

Is a major dilemma there now infection?

Here, have a :sushi: and some of my :chocolate:

Diva
01-30-2010, 11:02 AM
Here, have a :sushi: and some of my :chocolate:



You are Satan to tease me with the yummy goodness of sushi and chocolate.

Gimme it.

:D