Butch Buyers Guide

[TexZen]

:beerbros:

For all those, young and old, a buyers guide to all things "butch". I'll start it off by saying I lost weight and need a new set-up. I can't remember where the h*ll I bought anything! I use either small briefs or the "shorts" type harness... any suggestions?

[Corkey]

Babesintoyland, Good Vibrations, Underworks for compressions, um there is another but I need to find it. brb

ah found it Tranzwear all .com

[christie]

We ordered this bike short harness not too long ago for Jess...

http://wildhearts.com/spandexbikestrapon.aspx

Hy's been rather pleased with it. They also have good prices on Vixskins if you are in the market.

We had a size problem (shorts) with the first shipment - they pulled and sent the wrong size. They also didn't overnight the shipment as we had paid for. When I called, the overnight shipping was refunded and the correct size short was overnighted before I returned the wrong one. I was very pleased with their response and customer service.

[BullDog]

This harness is so damn comfortable and it's machine washable. :boxers:

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-all/spareparts-joque-harness

[MsDemeanor]

I thought that this thread would be about buying butches, a sort of shopper's guide for the single femme or for someone looking to trade in on a newer model.

My bad.

[Write14u]

This harness is so damn comfortable and it's machine washable. :boxers:

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-all/spareparts-joque-harness

It is pretty comfortable, but if you're bigger, beware because it doesn't tighten up that well. Go smaller on it. I wish I had bought the smaller version.

[BullDog]

It is pretty comfortable, but if you're bigger, beware because it doesn't tighten up that well. Go smaller on it. I wish I had bought the smaller version.

I got the large. According to the chart I could have gone with either size and didn't have a problem tightening it for me, but smaller one might have worked for me too. I think it's very comfortable and it does stretch so probably the small would work for most who fit within that size waist range they recommend.

[Hack]

Maybe I'm old school, but I've long been a fan of the Terra Firma for sexual activities. I recently bought a very comfortable harness for packing, and it was fairly inexpensive. It's called the Undercover Harness on the babeland site. I pack with the Goodfella, and this harness works great, and is easily the most comfortable I've used. I took at a look at the Spareparts harness, but I prefer to, um...wear my balls outside the harness. The Spareparts harness doesn't really allow for that. But it did look really comfortable.

[IrishGrrl]

My harness is the Tera Firma, and I love it!

[BullDog]

I have the terra firma too. It's a great harness, but my new one is a lot more comfortable. :D

[Abigail Crabby]

I thought that this thread would be about buying butches, a sort of shopper's guide for the single femme or for someone looking to trade in on a newer model.

My bad.

me

Me too - rushed right in with my wallet and some 50% off coupoons :awww:

[Kimbo]

A must in every butch's accessory bag :boxers:
The cup can be a bit big and they are great to wear under leather and I love the way they fit...

They also really enhance my experience because I feel more.. I'd highly recommend them.

http://www.qtantra.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=76

[Write14u]

Aslanleather.com is pretty good. They're the makers of much of the leather stuff you see on other sites, anyway.
The jaguar (http://www.aslanleather.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_32&products_id=164&osCsid=5194a179ea6ddb69b853e947d9472603)is a nice one.

Hack, the spandex harness that Christie posted up higher seems to allow for balls out, although, I think aesthetically speaking, I like the one Kimbo linked to (but that's just me.)

I just bought the same packing harness you did but haven't worn it yet. How do you like it?

[DapperButch]

Maybe I'm old school, but I've long been a fan of the Terra Firma for sexual activities. I recently bought a very comfortable harness for packing, and it was fairly inexpensive. It's called the Undercover Harness on the babeland site. I pack with the Goodfella, and this harness works great, and is easily the most comfortable I've used. I took at a look at the Spareparts harness, but I prefer to, um...wear my balls outside the harness. The Spareparts harness doesn't really allow for that. But it did look really comfortable.


Old School Harness wearer too...Terra Firma - tight against the body and stays in place no matter what!

[Hack]

Aslanleather.com is pretty good. They're the makers of much of the leather stuff you see on other sites, anyway.
The jaguar (http://www.aslanleather.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_32&products_id=164&osCsid=5194a179ea6ddb69b853e947d9472603)is a nice one.

Hack, the spandex harness that Christie posted up higher seems to allow for balls out, although, I think aesthetically speaking, I like the one Kimbo linked to (but that's just me.)

I just bought the same packing harness you did but haven't worn it yet. How do you like it?

I find it to be quite comfortable if I remember to wear it low. I have a tendency to want to "hitch" everything up. lol But I if I just wear it low, where it naturally sits, it is easy to wear. The times I've tried to wear it higher made everything feel...askew...if you know what I mean. ;)

[Hack]

Old School Harness wearer too...Terra Firma - tight against the body and stays in place no matter what!


I hear ya, Dapper. I like to strap tight too. Better cock control. ;)

[DapperButch]

I hear ya, Dapper. I like to strap tight too. Better cock control. ;)



Exactly. :beerbros:

[AtLast]

I thought that this thread would be about buying butches, a sort of shopper's guide for the single femme or for someone looking to trade in on a newer model.

My bad.

ROLF!!! Hey, I clicked over thinking it was butch fashion thread!!!


me

Me too - rushed right in with my wallet and some 50% off coupoons :awww:

Double ROLF!!! But, no coupons!

It is pretty comfortable, but if you're bigger, beware because it doesn't tighten up that well. Go smaller on it. I wish I had bought the smaller version.


Bully- I love this model. It is great for those of us that just don't like the feel (and smell) of leather. I find it to be very comfortable, easy to clean and no problems with control. And my comment has nothing to do with anyone's style of sexuality. LOL.... and the sound of cinching and uncinching can be a great post-sex conversation starter! :lol2:

Thinking about the royalties on the terra-firma... used one for a long time and remember when it was practically the only made! Really glad to see harnesses out now that are not made from leaather, though. Feel like I have a choice.

[violaine]

[QUOTE=MsDemeanor;43312]I thought that this thread would be about buying butches, a sort of shopper's guide for the single femme or for someone looking to trade in on a newer model.

My bad.

:superfunny:

[Jess]

A must in every butch's accessory bag :boxers:
The cup can be a bit big and they are great to wear under leather and I love the way they fit...

They also really enhance my experience because I feel more.. I'd highly recommend them.

http://www.qtantra.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=76

Had this one for years, the only issue I had with it during sex was the "snaps" were rather uncomfortable for my partner. There is good "ow" and bad "OW"...

[Jess]

Maybe I'm old school, but I've long been a fan of the Terra Firma for sexual activities. I recently bought a very comfortable harness for packing, and it was fairly inexpensive. It's called the Undercover Harness on the babeland site. I pack with the Goodfella, and this harness works great, and is easily the most comfortable I've used. I took at a look at the Spareparts harness, but I prefer to, um...wear my balls outside the harness. The Spareparts harness doesn't really allow for that. But it did look really comfortable.

Are you using the vixskin Goodfella? I find it a bit to em, firm for everyday packing. Great for fucking , anal and blow jobs... not so much for packing. At least for me.

The shorts type harness Christie linked does allow for balls out.

Still looking for the perfect pack and play ( for me).

[Jess]

Do we have a fashion thread? Or can we use this space for that also?

Need to find some clothing sites that offer well rounded apparel. Casual, dress, etc for folks my age. I will wear some clothes that are fairly youthful, but at 46 , I don't tend to like a lot of today's styles.

"Pants on the ground, pants on the ground.. lookin like a fool with your pants on the ground"!

The girl says I need to stop shopping the clearance rack at Wally World or thrift stores... Any ideas folks?

[Corkey]

Do we have a fashion thread? Or can we use this space for that also?

Need to find some clothing sites that offer well rounded apparel. Casual, dress, etc for folks my age. I will wear some clothes that are fairly youthful, but at 46 , I don't tend to like a lot of today's styles.

"Pants on the ground, pants on the ground.. lookin like a fool with your pants on the ground"!

The girl says I need to stop shopping the clearance rack at Wally World or thrift stores... Any ideas folks?

We got some good deals at Mens Warehouse, and they didn't bat an eye that it was a Butch that wanted a suit for his wedding. Also got a really nice leather jacket and a cashmere pullover sweater there, the ties were off the hook, and by g-d they sell shoes in my size. They even had really nice shirts, all with custom tailoring. I highly recommend them.

[DapperButch]

A must in every butch's accessory bag :boxers:
The cup can be a bit big and they are great to wear under leather and I love the way they fit...

They also really enhance my experience because I feel more.. I'd highly recommend them.

http://www.qtantra.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=76

Had this one for years, the only issue I had with it during sex was the "snaps" were rather uncomfortable for my partner. There is good "ow" and bad "OW"...

I have used these shorts too, and although the snap problem makes sense (and is a good point of caution), my partner (ex) never said this was a problem for her.

However, again, I am a big Terra Firma fan, so I was never using these shorts on a regular basis with a partner.

[Hack]

Are you using the vixskin Goodfella? I find it a bit to em, firm for everyday packing. Great for fucking , anal and blow jobs... not so much for packing. At least for me.

The shorts type harness Christie linked does allow for balls out.

Still looking for the perfect pack and play ( for me).

I don't pack 24/7, so it works ok for me, but I have found the tighter the boxer briefs while packing it, the, um, better.

And I hear you on still looking for the perfect pack and play.

[DapperButch]

I don't pack 24/7, so it works ok for me, but I have found the tighter the boxer briefs while packing it, the, um, better.

And I hear you on still looking for the perfect pack and play.

The person who invents the perfect pack and play is gonna make a bundle! :greendollar::greendollar::greendollar:

[Write14u]

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The person who invents the perfect pack and play is gonna make a bundle! :greendollar::greendollar::greendollar:


Or the person who can figure out how to pack the Outlaw (http://store.babeland.com/dildos-lifelike/outlaw-dildo)without it looking like a rolling pin in your pants! *grin*

[Hack]

Or the person who can figure out how to pack the Outlaw (http://store.babeland.com/dildos-lifelike/outlaw-dildo)without it looking like a rolling pin in your pants! *grin*

I think you'd need some kind of engineering degree to make that happen. lol

[Darth Denkay]

Can you help a butch out? I've used the terra firma for years and always ben very happy with it. I've had a harder time finding a harness or strap to pack with. I'd like to check out the Undercover Harness mentioned here, but when I put toys in babeland in my search the freaking store doesn't come up. Can slomeone send me the link, either to the store or to this product?

Thanks!

Maybe I'm old school, but I've long been a fan of the Terra Firma for sexual activities. I recently bought a very comfortable harness for packing, and it was fairly inexpensive. It's called the Undercover Harness on the babeland site. I pack with the Goodfella, and this harness works great, and is easily the most comfortable I've used. I took at a look at the Spareparts harness, but I prefer to, um...wear my balls outside the harness. The Spareparts harness doesn't really allow for that. But it did look really comfortable.

[Kimbo]

Can you help a butch out? I've used the terra firma for years and always ben very happy with it. I've had a harder time finding a harness or strap to pack with. I'd like to check out the Undercover Harness mentioned here, but when I put toys in babeland in my search the freaking store doesn't come up. Can slomeone send me the link, either to the store or to this product?

Thanks!

http://www.babeland.com/

They shortened their name to babeland a year or so ago.

[Darth Denkay]

Okay, I found the site but couldn't find the undercover harness - apparently right now I am packing-challenged!!!

http://www.babeland.com/

They shortened their name to babeland a year or so ago.

[Hack]

Okay, I found the site but couldn't find the undercover harness - apparently right now I am packing-challenged!!!



http://www.aslanleather.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_32&products_id=32

Always happy to help...

Jake

[Kimbo]

Here's a direct link:

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-2-strap/terra-firma-leather-d-ring

[Write14u]

bump .....

[Tommi]

bump .....

One of my faorite sites for bumping supplies (http://www.stormyleather.com/store.asp)
:bedfuck:

and another for everything else (http://stockroom.com/home.aspx)

[rlin]

howdy yall...
i have been on the lookout for something and have no idea where to find it... but... not givin up...
anyone know of a place that sales maybe vintage toys? i used to buy this one particular deal to wear out... i enjoyed it just and only for that reason...
i havent had to look for one in about 15yrs... i assume it has been replaced by bigger and better...
however... for the purpose i used this set up with it worked perfectly... and i dont wanna change it up...
so..
anyone got any idea of where to get less cutting edge toys???

[Soft*Silver]

:::taking notes of who has web links to babeland::::::

[chefhottie25]

Do we have a fashion thread? Or can we use this space for that also?

Need to find some clothing sites that offer well rounded apparel. Casual, dress, etc for folks my age. I will wear some clothes that are fairly youthful, but at 46 , I don't tend to like a lot of today's styles.

"Pants on the ground, pants on the ground.. lookin like a fool with your pants on the ground"!

The girl says I need to stop shopping the clearance rack at Wally World or thrift stores... Any ideas folks?

hey jesse...i agree we need a fashion thread. i am 35 and when i shop for a little nicer casual clothing i go to structure for men. their clothes are geared for those who want to dress a little trendy...but they also have a good collection of more classic and essential clothes. and don't give up on the thrift stores...i always find good stuff there.

[rlin]

hey jess and chef...

here is a link to the butchwear thread...

http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=812

i get really damned tired of all the predictable butch wear too...
as for shopping tho... i end up with all the same tired stuff...
hell... i know i am getting old... been doing the madras thing lately... thinking too about starting to blouse and roll my sleeves... like gpa used to...
so... i know i gotta do somethin soon....
tho...i gotta admit... i do like a ducktail... and penny loafers... so... helll... maybe i will stay with my aesthetic... least til something better comes along...
i am personally glad it is winter... i can do a lot more with layers... that way i can just keep removing them until i feel like i am right for the room...

[Mister Bent]

I was hoping to buy a butch, but this thread has been no help at all!

[Hack]

I was hoping to buy a butch, but this thread has been no help at all!

Oh, you know me.

And I'm very affordable.

[Mister Bent]

Oh, you know me.

And I'm very affordable.


Is that code for "cheap?"

[Hack]

Is that code for "cheap?"

Depends on how you want to play, big boy.

[betenoire]

Is that code for "cheap?"

Mack do you think you could rent him out to me on occasion? I have some litter boxes that need scooping and I don't feel like it and Nick doesn't seem to care that I don't feel like it.

:whoop:

[Mister Bent]

Mack do you think you could rent him out to me on occasion? I have some litter boxes that need scooping and I don't feel like it and Nick doesn't seem to care that I don't feel like it.

:whoop:

Hm, I don't think this is the right model for you, this one's got some structural issues that might make scooping difficult.

[betenoire]

Hm, I don't think this is the right model for you, this one's got some structural issues that might make scooping difficult.

Oh shit, I just noticed the hook hand!

I bet we could solder a scoop to the end of it though.

Inappropriate?

[Hack]

Oh shit, I just noticed the hook hand!

I bet we could solder a scoop to the end of it though.

Inappropriate?

I try to always be inappropriate.

[betenoire]

I try to always be inappropriate.

Fabulous. Since you're open to a few, um, improvements just leave it to me and Mack. We'll fix you up real good.

I'm thinking we could fuse stilts or maybe pogosticks to your feet so that you will be more useful for tasks that are up high.

So we've got stilt and/or pogo feet, and a litterscooper hand. We'll get back to you after we've conferenced for a bit about further updates to your, um, bodily breakdown.

[rainintothesea]

I also must confess to being grossly misled by the title of this thread. :)

[rlin]

I also must confess to being grossly misled by the title of this thread. :)

i have back issues of consumer reports...just call at my page and make an appointment... i would be glad to show them to you...

[suebee]

Ooooooh! I'd call that a DREAM date! :drool:

[rlin]

Ooooooh! I'd call that a DREAM date! :drool:

you saying i must be dreaming????

[rainintothesea]

i have back issues of consumer reports...just call at my page and make an appointment... i would be glad to show them to you...

That's very generous of you, haha! :)

[waxnrope]

www.magnoliclothiers.com
I've searched everywhere for this style of flannel trouser. Eureka!
Perhaps this is wrong thread?

[Gala]

Hey just wondering, do any of you use a vibrator like a bullet underneath your strapon and if so which is your favorite?

Thanks

[dykeumentary]

Do we have a fashion thread? Or can we use this space for that also?

Need to find some clothing sites that offer well rounded apparel. Casual, dress, etc for folks my age. I will wear some clothes that are fairly youthful, but at 46 , I don't tend to like a lot of today's styles.

"Pants on the ground, pants on the ground.. lookin like a fool with your pants on the ground"!

The girl says I need to stop shopping the clearance rack at Wally World or thrift stores... Any ideas folks?

When I need "date clothes" I go to Uniqlo. Their "slim" shirts and pants fit well and look fancy, but are affordable. They also can alter clothes right in the store.
I think dressing up is fun but I hate to shop.

[ProfPacker]

unfortunately couldn't fit in. just found the Outplay for butch bathing suits. Very cool. check them out

[JDeere]

If any of y'all have small feet or really small feet like mine, make sure you get fitted properly for cowboy boots, it makes a huge difference. I went from wearing a woman's 5.5 B to a kid's 3.5 D. Saved me some money.

Also does anyone have any suggestions as far as formal wear for us bigger butches and heavy chested bois?

[JDeere]

BUMP BUMP, where are the fashion guys at? lol

[ClintB]

Bump.


Honestly I dress like shit. Probably need a little more fort for nice date nights and a cousins wedding this summer.

Unfortunately I am plus sized and ...sigh... not the square body type I would like. I wear menswear... but piece that work are few and far between. Probably the reason I dress like shit... I hate shopping and will wear what ever I find to death.

[homoe]

I am by no means a slave to fashion but I think I dress well.

For daily wear I sport either a navy or black t-shirt underneath a solid color long sleeve shirt, jeans, and sneakers.

For dressy occasions I wear pressed black dress slacks, most often followed by a crisp white shirt and black dress shoes.

[Wrang1er]

I read the title of this thread and thought it was for people that wanted to buy a butch.

[~ocean]

Is this a shopping thread ???? ** looks all excited **

[JDeere]

Bump.


Honestly I dress like shit. Probably need a little more fort for nice date nights and a cousins wedding this summer.

Unfortunately I am plus sized and ...sigh... not the square body type I would like. I wear menswear... but piece that work are few and far between. Probably the reason I dress like shit... I hate shopping and will wear what ever I find to death.

Same with me, being a big guy, clothes cost more. I can't afford it.

[bright_arrow]

This may be unrelated and if so I apologize, but I wanted to share a link for those that bind/would like to bind but don't want to dish out a lot of money.

https://www.gc2b.co/

I came across this brand by reading an article where someone had tested low-cost binders and provided feedback. These can be purchased through Amazon and they're roughly $30/$35 with tax. Sometimes Amazon runs out of stock but it doesn't generally take too long to restock, although I do not think that they stock all colors/sizes. We had to exchange once for a different size and it was a breeze.

My partner wears one and says it is awesome - comfortable enough to wear all day (even wore it through laser tag) but wouldn't suggest working out in it. It can be done if it is lower impact (i.e. we just did thirty minutes on a bike, nothing excessive or high impact) but you obviously want to be cautious with exerting yourself and the pressure on your lungs/chest.

He wears the half-tank, it has wider straps and is designed like a tanktop, and no lines are visible if worn under a tanktop and then under a shirt. We have not tested it by itself under a t-shirt, but I think it would still look fine. It compresses well and allows him to wear a t-shirt in public comfortably and, also important, confidently. He says it is not any more heat-inducing than wearing a t-shirt, and when he sits he hasn't noticed it rolling up/having to adjust it or pull it down upon standing.

[JDeere]

I prefer shorts or jeans with t-shirts over khakis and Polo's all the time these days. Work attire to me is so not personable, it's like you dress to impress not based on your work or how well you do your work.

[ClintB]

My wardrobe, other than scrubs..... one pair of baggy jeans, one pair of dickies type pants in grey I never were, two henleys, three t shirts that don't fit, a jeep tank, anthr tank that doesn't fit right (doesnt cover my chest), and some camping cloths that are too stained to wear in public. And a sweater.


I am a traveler so I have to keep it minimal, but every single date I've been on in the last two months I've had to wear the same jeans, one of the two henleys or the sweater. And BTW the only reason I own the henleys is I LITERALLY had nothing decent for our first date... so I bought them.

I think my best bet is to try buy online from a men's plus size store that has a good return policy.


Has anyone out there found a pair of plus sized slim fit jeans they like? Not too tight, just tapered so they'd look good with a nice pair of shoes...

[JDeere]

My wardrobe, other than scrubs..... one pair of baggy jeans, one pair of dickies type pants in grey I never were, two henleys, three t shirts that don't fit, a jeep tank, anthr tank that doesn't fit right (doesnt cover my chest), and some camping cloths that are too stained to wear in public. And a sweater.


I am a traveler so I have to keep it minimal, but every single date I've been on in the last two months I've had to wear the same jeans, one of the two henleys or the sweater. And BTW the only reason I own the henleys is I LITERALLY had nothing decent for our first date... so I bought them.

I think my best bet is to try buy online from a men's plus size store that has a good return policy.


Has anyone out there found a pair of plus sized slim fit jeans they like? Not too tight, just tapered so they'd look good with a nice pair of shoes...

Try King size online or Dxl. Google both and see what you can find but I warn you its not cheap, the pants I have on right now cost me 65 bucks.

[JDeere]

Xtemp Tshirts from Hanes!!!
These are a must for me now during the summer and when I wear a lighter color polo so they cant see my binder, etc.

[bright_arrow]

This may be unrelated and if so I apologize, but I wanted to share a link for those that bind/would like to bind but don't want to dish out a lot of money.

https://www.gc2b.co/

I came across this brand by reading an article where someone had tested low-cost binders and provided feedback. These can be purchased through Amazon and they're roughly $30/$35 with tax. Sometimes Amazon runs out of stock but it doesn't generally take too long to restock, although I do not think that they stock all colors/sizes. We had to exchange once for a different size and it was a breeze.

My partner wears one and says it is awesome - comfortable enough to wear all day (even wore it through laser tag) but wouldn't suggest working out in it. It can be done if it is lower impact (i.e. we just did thirty minutes on a bike, nothing excessive or high impact) but you obviously want to be cautious with exerting yourself and the pressure on your lungs/chest.

He wears the half-tank, it has wider straps and is designed like a tanktop, and no lines are visible if worn under a tanktop and then under a shirt. We have not tested it by itself under a t-shirt, but I think it would still look fine. It compresses well and allows him to wear a t-shirt in public comfortably and, also important, confidently. He says it is not any more heat-inducing than wearing a t-shirt, and when he sits he hasn't noticed it rolling up/having to adjust it or pull it down upon standing.

I came back because someone repped me, and can now add that the binder is not seen under t-shirts.

[JDeere]

I came back because someone repped me, and can now add that the binder is not seen under t-shirts.

Good to know as im buying a binder from the site soon.

[JDeere]

Do you step into the binder or lift it over your head. Im curious as ive seen and heard about different ways.

[JDeere]

I found a new online shop, even if it is local to me but I thought I would share.

www.manready.com

[DapperButch]

JDeere,

Did you ever order the binder? Is it working out for you?

[JDeere]

JDeere,

Did you ever order the binder? Is it working out for you?

Not yet, I am starting a new job and I was low on funds, so waiting till I get paid.


When I do I will definitely post to everyone about it.

[JDeere]

I finally ordered my binder. I cant wait till It gets here...

[JDeere]

The binder works perfectly for me. Keeps me pretty flat and doesn't roll up and is easily tucked in as well.

If I lose more weight I may have to go to smaller size binder.

[JDeere]

Wallets!!!

Trifold, bi fold, passcase, money clip? What is it that you carry?

[Ender]

Wallets!!!

Trifold, bi fold, passcase, money clip? What is it that you carry?

I've had the same bi-fold, leather wallet that my dad gave me for the last 15 years, it has his company logo on the front. It doesn't have any noticeable wears or anything, so I never had to replace it. It's been good to me.

[JDeere]

I've had the same bi-fold, leather wallet that my dad gave me for the last 15 years, it has his company logo on the front. It doesn't have any noticeable wears or anything, so I never had to replace it. It's been good to me.

I have like 6 wallets, all of them have wear on them, 2 are big rodeo wallets, 4 are trifolds.

I really want this one rodeo wallet but its insanely expensive so I may ask for it for birthday or Christmas.

[WheatToast]

I also must confess to being grossly misled by the title of this thread. :)


I got two cool looking work shirts from Land's End, on sale for $19.99 each. They were originally $44. I got black and navy blue--the fabric is strong but smooth and the pockets have hidden double pockets under the button flaps.
I just checked and they have some remaining in very large sizes. Navy, khaki and charcoal.
These shirts will last 30 years because they are so sturdy and well made. Even the elbows are double lined. And yes, they are very butch looking.:fastdraq:

[JDeere]

If you buy from Dxl or destinations xl which is a big men's store, it's pricey but worth it on undershirts and underwear even shirts. Only issue i have is length, its hard to find a 28 or 29 inseam.