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Stealth or Out
Interesting topic, fellahs. My stealth/ out status is tricky due to my occupation. As a professional working in an office with
(non-pro) office staff involving servicing the (general) public, I don't want my status known there primarily for the (obvious) safety reasons. The idea doesn't make me feel safe and it's, as Theo said; 'none of anyone's business'. This could change if the public could see the value in our unique perspective. A cis-gendered bio-male could never, ever have our insight or perspective. Ever. How we see ourselves first comes from us as a community, then it projects outward to the mainstream public. Thankfully there are single individuals out there helping us along. We still have a long way to go, but I am full of hope. I was 46 when I decided to do this. My adult life has been in the LGBTQ social culture where I am out. Having achieved most things I am proud of before transitioning, I don't wish at all to 'erase' that part of my life. In fact, achieving them in a non-transitioned, non-cisgendered state makes me feel like a super dude among men, so I am definitely keeping the photos! Am still balancing out how I feel completely about the whole stealth/ out issue. Permissions with my family's friends can be tricky, but am out with LGBTQ Communities. People come in all sorts and rub us all differently and my status is MY very personal business. Ultimately, I feel like the default for disclosure should be my choice. |
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I'm not sure that it is an age thing, since I have photographs older than Theo. |
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The night before i went over to see them I was talking to my aunt and I started to say well there is something you need to know ... She said "Hun it's okay, your dad sent us an email. Barry(her son) keeps telling me to watch my pronouns. She did her best ... it was funny cause my uncle who just had some issues where his thinking process was impaired didn't miss a single pronoun and I could tell that he was proud of that fact! When I was leaving my cousins ... my cousin paused ... stared at me and said "damn you look like your dad!" i knew they'd be good and it's nice to have some of the family that now knows. Don't know what will ever happen with my moms side but i'll cross that bridge if it ever comes! |
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I hope to make some themed murals with them to display in my hallway. I'm not sure what I am going to do with the ones that i am in yet. I'm going to leave those for last! If nothing else I will probably make something then decide whether or not to display. I figure when i get to that point I will know what is right for me. At this moment it would be weird, but by the time I get there and maybe in the manner that I display them it might be okay. I do have some albums and my yearbook out but really not anywhere that someone is going to grab them and look at them. Some of my not displaying them has to do with others reactions but the other part has to do with me. It's just weird to see them. It's a different person that I am so disconnected from and even though it's a part of my past it's weird to look at this person that existed yet didn't exist. |
I'm glad that things went well with your family. :)
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Shaving Cream
Does the shaving cream make more of a difference than the razor? Okay, so I've always used the cheap stripped can shaving cream. But I use expensive disposable 5-blade razors and still don't get the shave I would like. Do those shaving creams that blah blah about smoother shave, lifts hair, blah blah really help?
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The shaving creams can certainly help, however, putting a hot damp washcloth on one's face, immediately before shaving really helps a lot. To my mind, the shaving creams help protect the face, and give you a smoother shave by providing lubrication for the razor's movement across your face.
For many years before I transitioned, I could not use shaving creams due to problems with my body. Just putting a hot wet washcloth over my face for a few minutes, prior to shaving, did the trick for me, in giving me a close shave. |
Thank y'all. Well that was easy. I'll give it a try. :D
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What they said, and a sharp blade! :)
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Exfoliate, Exfoliate, and Exfoliate again. It helps to remove the dead/dry skin that builds up. I use a puff thingy and Aveeno has a great exfoliating cleansers. This can be used on whatever you are shaving. :blush:
I use my Aveeno every other day and it makes for soft skin and a closer shave. Also not letting your razor sit in the shower and stay wet keeps the edge longer. Good luck! Quote:
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Thank you! A |
I use shave oil (almond) with a hot towel first, after a shower, with Casswell-Massey almond shave soap with a badger bristle brush. Followed by a cooling after shave and Neutrogenia for men moisturizer with spf. I use Gillette Quatro razor.
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I've been contemplating bottom surgery. At the very least a hysto and metoidioplasty but was curious what others have considered or have had done. PMs welcomed if that is more comfortable for you.
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Hey Everyone
I recently reconnected with my Mom again after 16 years of her cutting me off. Mom is very conservative Jehovahs Witness. My life choices were just unceptable to her. While my siblings, childhood friends, friends ofbthe family and High School friends all had no trouble with my gender evolution, my Mom is in denial and does not want to discuss this. I am very out and visible as a volunteer with 2 Narional groups. One is religious the other political. It would be impossible to avoid my male identity if she wanted to. When my sister refers to me in male pronouns or my nephews call me Uncle, Mom gets upset. Everyone who saw me grow up gets me and can see a natural evolution. I find myself wondering how to engage with my Mother in an authentic way. Has anyone been through anything similar? Thank you. |
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To be authenic or to strive to be authenic does not rquire buy in from others. It is not easy to bare rejection, and disrespect from our family, it can hurt. However, you can continue to be authenic and live your life according to your values and choices. It is not easy. Please do not think I am suggesting that to you. I myself do not have much contact with my brothers because of their response to my transistion. I believe they have always personalized my queerness expressed primarily in the masculine form, as some sort of personal threat to their own sense of masculinity or what it means to be a man. (I digress.) If you would like to talk about your situation with me, one to one, pm me. |
I don't know if this relates to you Sun or would help, but with my family I addressed the issue on how it effects them. I've made no claim that they need to accept me this way or that way but if they are going to be around me there are things they need to be aware of. That others do see me as a man and them calling me she will get them weird looks, them showing pictures of me and saying may daughter will get them weird looks ... etc. I suggested they at least start with gender neutral things. Like calling me lynd, calling me their child.
My brother has never given me a chance. He will only be around me if I'm the way he expects me to be. I've never said he had to do anything, call me he, koop or anything but he has chosen to not have me in his life the way I am. With My parents I have taken baby steps. Until this winter I hadn't been home for about 4 or 5 years. They travel a lot and we would meet up places. I let them get to see me in areas where they didn't have to be concerned about others reactions. They've grown to accept me the way I am. Mom still isn't great with the pronouns but has gotten really good and calling me by a shortened version of my given name. Dad has called me son. For me by not demanding anything from them I feel I've gotten more then I could imagine. |
So a question I figured I'd ask but I know would be a small, limited audience. I'm currently attempting to get a green card via work. Unfortunately, because of my degrees and the strict requirements for that I ended up in what's known as the EB-3 category, which is general skilled professionals. Because of this, I'm looking at somewhere between 5-7 years before I might (and it's a huge might given some recent legislation going on in Congress/Senate right now) get a green card.
K and I have been talking about marriage for a few years now and I have even proposed to her. I still have to get her ring redone (in silver since the one I got her turned her finger green ?!). That said, I've contemplated getting my sex identifier changed on my ID and marrying her to see about getting the green card via marriage. The questions I have is: 1. Has anyone done this? 2. For the medical interview portion, do you have to go to a doctor that is selected by USCIS or can you go to your general practitioner? 3. Does USCIS consider GID to be a "Physical or mental disorders with harmful behavior" that would deny entry (I'm assuming no since I've been here for 5 years but this seems a different group from those that issue work visas). Any input from those who have dealt with this kind of process (or similar if it was to another country) would be greatly appreciated. |
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Anyway, I've been legally married twice. The only ID I needed was drivers license, which got changed under very lucky (for me) circumstances. I went to the DMV, said I lost (misplaced)y drivers license, which I had. After giving them my social security number they filled in the blanks. Male it was. Granted, this was an awful lot of years ago. There are also some states that will change your sex w/o surgery if you have documentation that shows you've lived as your "chosen" gender for x amount of years. |
Hey Linus, being that your a transplanted Canadian, I have no I idea what the hoops your going to have to jump through. The only thing I can suggest is to call or write to ICE to know what they are accepting now.
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I have been on T for about 4 months now--
My question is -- when did you start to shave? |
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Personally for me, initially I was more focused with the physical changes and now, much more with the layers of my "transition." Best wishes for you on your journey. |
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Okay, I have an endocrine disorder that I was diagnosed with in my late teens (19) while on active duty in the Marine Corps. Because of that, and probably genetics from hairy blood ancestry, I was able to grow facial hair long, long looooooooong before I even thought about transitioning. That being said: I've been on T for almost 6 years now, but I didn't start with injectable T at first, and there was a big difference in the speed and amount of change that I experienced when I first started with the T gel (Testim) and sub dermal pellets (Testopel). For the first 6 or 8 months, I was on the pellets and gel, but didn't see any appreciable change. I got to the point where I was not trusting the doctor who was implanting these pellets and it got really, really expensive having to travel over to Los Angeles every 3-4 months from where I live, here in Las Vegas, to get more pellets re-implanted. After I started injectable T, the changes started coming about pretty quickly, like within the first year. The first thing I noticed was how my hairline receded. The second thing that I saw happening was how the rest of my body, like my chest, back, arms, shoulders, legs and crotch started sprouting hair. I was adopted when I was 3 months old and I know very little about my birth parents, other than the non-identifiable information that the state adoption agency shared with me when I was 18 years old. I have no idea if there's baldness in the male segment of either of my birth parents or not, so I've had to just proceed with this part of transition with a "wait and see" attitude. So, it's been a bit of a surprise for me to watch the hair line just slowly creep back and the back hairs to start sprouting. I guess it's "like a box of chocolates, because I don't know what I'm going to get". So here I am, nearly 6 years on T this coming January. I have been wearing a full beard for the past year or so and only shaving my neck below my beard line. It gets prickly and uncomfy if I don't and I have to shave that every day. A couple of weeks ago, my boss sent out an email saying that our entire staff had to get fit tested for the N-95 respirator protective mask. This is a filtered mask that health care personnel must wear to protect ourselves from airborne pathogens such as Tuberculosis bacteria and other bad stuff. The email said that "All men must be clean shaven" because facial hair impaired the functionality of the mask. So, I had to shave my beard off. I did leave my long sideburns and my mustache, however, because I'm a "rebel" like that!! Anyway, after getting fit tested, I immediately went back to growing my beard back. Here it is, about 3 weeks from my last shave and my beard is now totally and completely regrown. Yay me!!!! :clap: Good luck on growing your facial hair, if you so desire to. I've met quite a few ladies, my gf included, who really find a man with a full beard to be most attractive!! :winky: ~Theo~ :bouquet: |
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I started injectible T I think 4 years ago. Just this past year have gotten where I almost need to shave on a daily basis. Sometimes I can skip a day depending on when I shave. However the more I shave the more I have to shave. I still don't think I could grow a full anything, but I'm finally getting where my sideburns have grown out. YAY that's the main thing i wanted. The rest I have been able to tolerate that much. Like Greyson I mainly get this hairy scarf and I can't stand the feel or look of it so off it goes. Occasionally i start to try other things but just don't have the tolerance. My next step is to increase the length of my sideburns! I come from a fairly nonhairy body hair family. We all have a full head of hair but not much going on else where! I don't have a single chest hair which I am happy with but that's how hairless my family is! |
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Maybe I should of asked: Did you shave Pre-T? Peach fuzz? If you start to shave peach fuzz, is it true that more hair will grow? and more zits will accumulate? Oy. Quote:
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To everyone-- thank you again for replying and sharing your stories. I really appreciate it. a. :mohawk: |
I've been on T for something like two years now I think perhaps and I am just now starting to shave. I get some dark hairs here and there under my chin, but the rest is still kinda fuzzy, and there is some very light sideburns growing in slowly. Its funny, the one thing I want the most from this is more facial hair, because I also feel the lack of it makes people second guess my gender in public because I have such a baby face unfortunately.
I have noticed, and it could just be the timing of it all, is that the more I shave, the more darker hairs start coming in on my chin, so who knows. I have heard of some guys taking DHT I believe it was to directly increase the ability to grow facial hair, and overall hair in general. But I haven't had a chance to look more into that yet. |
Just remember that the effects of HRT differ with each person, so don't expect miracles. I know of a transwoman that started HRT 2 years after i did, and she has much bigger breasts then I do. Of course, she started HRT when she was a lot younger then I did, too. Sometimes, it is just the way that the dice falls, I guess.
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I stopped HRT about 9 yrs ago..
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Hi all,
I started my transition in 2000 and started on T in 2003. It only took a few months for me to need to shave - surprising since I am Irish and not very hairy at all. I went off of T in 2010 due to some medical issues, but will be going back on again soon. I still have to shave every day, although I let it go until work complains. We aren't allowed to have facial hair other than a small, neatly trimmed, mustache. The one place I can't seem to grow much hair! Go figure. I had top surgery in 2008 and a hysto in 2010. I have no plans for any other surgeries at this time. I was able to get my insurance to cover ALL costs associated with my transistion. For the record - I am very open abotut anything and everything so feel free to ask me anything. Pvt message me if you have a question you aren't comfortable asking on here. Also - I'm in the Twin Cities, MN and am looking to make some local friends if anyone else is around here and open to it. |
How do you know if your T is turning into Estrogen -- What would some indications be ?
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Why do most transmen have an issue dating tall women ?
im 5'9 and half and i get no love from the bros:( |
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My girlfriend is taller then me by a couple of inches. |
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