Titanic 100 Years Later

[gaea]

I really have no idea where this would go its history so i think this is an appropriate place.

I have had a strange addiction to everything Titanic since around the age of 4 i remember having a conversation with my mother about it and her asking me where i had "heard" the things i had been talking about, only i do not remember "hearing" anything so i could not say anything other than "I just know"

Now that the 100 years is upon us, the news media is all over this asking people about their strange addictions and or "connections" to the titanic.

I have found this interesting because i have a strange connection to it as well unexplainable i had no relatives aboard.

http://www.rmstitanic.net/

RIP-RMS TITANIC 04/15/1912

Does anyone else have these strange/odd connections to things history events of the past ?

[I'mOneToo]

gaea, I also have a fascination for all things Titanic. Nope, no relatives on board nor anyone who knew any of them.

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/

[gaea]

Originally Posted by I'mOneToo

gaea, I also have a fascination for all things Titanic. Nope, no relatives on board nor anyone who knew any of them.

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/

I am so glad there is another..here at least we are about to celebrate 100 years...

Im saddened by this event and yet somehow relieved by it at the same time.

[I'mOneToo]

There is this too, if you're interested:



It's an hour and a half long, but interesting.

[macele]

my niece is crazy about everything titanic. she and i went to the museum in pigeon forge, tn. she loved it. i went for the picture in front of the famous staircase (really just standing in front of a blue screen) lol.

we went into a room that was cold as cold can get, seemed like. we touched ice/water, ... how cold it would have been to be in the water, ... like those on the titanic. there was an illusion of the hallway. dang that looked real! i could just see rose and jack running together. any titanic fan would enjoy.

the titanic passengers experienced an unimaginable death, horrific. and those that lived, brought the unimaginable horror home with them. it's like 9 11. and katrina. everytime i think of, i close my eyes and feel a loss that's deep, dark, scarey. just can't imagine what they went through.

i've felt a connection with a person that i don't know, historic. it feels too personal to share. but i do understand the connection you are talking about. at least i think i do. i know the connection that i have had, ... has been to soothe my soul. and maybe the other "person's" spirit.

interesting topic. thank you, gaea.

[gaea]

Originally Posted by macele

my niece is crazy about everything titanic. she and i went to the museum in pigeon forge, tn. she loved it. i went for the picture in front of the famous staircase (really just standing in front of a blue screen) lol.

we went into a room that was cold as cold can get, seemed like. we touched ice/water, ... how cold it would have been to be in the water, ... like those on the titanic. there was an illusion of the hallway. dang that looked real! i could just see rose and jack running together. any titanic fan would enjoy.

the titanic passengers experienced an unimaginable death, horrific. and those that lived, brought the unimaginable horror home with them. it's like 9 11. and katrina. everytime i think of, i close my eyes and feel a loss that's deep, dark, scarey. just can't imagine what they went through.

i've felt a connection with a person that i don't know, historic. it feels too personal to share. but i do understand the connection you are talking about. at least i think i do. i know the connection that i have had, ... has been to soothe my soul. and maybe the other "person's" spirit.

interesting topic. thank you, gaea.

thank you for sharing this information, if I may ask how old is your neice?

[gaea]

Originally Posted by I'mOneToo

There is this too, if you're interested:



It's an hour and a half long, but interesting.

thank you for posting this I believe I have seen it however will watch it again.

[gaea]

there is a special in tonight that I am watching.

[macele]

she is 10. and actually, she is my great niece. mom had me late in life. so i have great's lol.

we went last thanksgiving holiday.

[Ciaran]

I have little direct interest in The Titanic, although it was built in the Harland & Wolff shipyard in my beloved home city of Belfast. At the time, Belfast was world's leading manufacturer of ships.

The completion of The Titanic was a thing of pride for Belfast and its sinking damaged the psyche of the city for many years. It was something that was rarely discussed. Following decades of sectarian conflict and the decline of our manufacturing base, the shipyards died. The offices where The Titanic was designed remained but were boarded up. Bus tours of Belfast took visitors to the site where The Titanic was built - it was nothing but desolate wasteland and ghosts.

Until recently, our commemoration of the Titanic had been more discrete through a beautiful memorial to the Titanic victims erected in the grounds of our City Hall in 1920.

Things are very different today - a multi-million dollar Titanic Visitor Centre (http://www.titanicbelfast.com/Home.aspx) opens this month and the city is at the heart of the Titanic celebrations. The Centre is in our Titanic quarter, the rebirth of the wasteland into waterfront apartments, offices and shops in what may become a thriving part of our city.

Not all rests easy with me. There's blatant over-commercialisation from the sale of Titanic-branded potato chips to a range of garish Titanic souvenirs. However, overall, this is incredibly positive and it's beautiful to see my city's contribution to The Titanic being finally recognised and the exorcising of certain ghosts in the process. As we've said in Belfast for many decades, The Titanic was fine when it left here.


As an aside, my grandfather was born only miles away from The Titanic on the same day that it set sale from Belfast. Sadly, I never knew him as he died more than a decade before I was born.

[gaea]

Originally Posted by Ciaran

I have little direct interest in The Titanic, although it was built in the Harland & Wolff shipyard in my beloved home city of Belfast. At the time, Belfast was world's leading manufacturer of ships.

The completion of The Titanic was a thing of pride for Belfast and its sinking damaged the psyche of the city for many years. It was something that was rarely discussed. Following decades of sectarian conflict and the decline of our manufacturing base, the shipyards died. The offices where The Titanic was designed remained but were boarded up. Bus tours of Belfast took visitors to the site where The Titanic was built - it was nothing but desolate wasteland and ghosts.

Until recently, our commemoration of the Titanic had been more discrete through a beautiful memorial to the Titanic victims erected in the grounds of our City Hall in 1920.

Things are very different today - a multi-million dollar Titanic Visitor Centre (http://www.titanicbelfast.com/Home.aspx) opens this month and the city is at the heart of the Titanic celebrations. The Centre is in our Titanic quarter, the rebirth of the wasteland into waterfront apartments, offices and shops in what may become a thriving part of our city.

Not all rests easy with me. There's blatant over-commercialisation from the sale of Titanic-branded potato chips to a range of garish Titanic souvenirs. However, overall, this is incredibly positive and it's beautiful to see my city's contribution to The Titanic being finally recognised and the exorcising of certain ghosts in the process. As we've said in Belfast for many decades, The Titanic was fine when it left here.


As an aside, my grandfather was born only miles away from The Titanic on the same day that it set sale from Belfast. Sadly, I never knew him as he died more than a decade before I was born.

reading this gave me chills more to the point your grandfather was born the day it set sail. amazing to me, this connection you have.

Im so glad you joined this conversation and gave us some insight into Belfast, ironic if you think about it, the way you described Belfast closing up after the ship sank and now is suddenly being reborn around the same ship.

I am not fond of the commercialization of the titanic either, my connection is different i do not own anything titanic not even a movie i keep meaning to buy it and i never do.

for me it is in the "story" the story of those that boarded and lived prior to the sinking, they had lives everyday lives who were they what were they about and what set them in motion to get on board a ship that would take them down? It is the personal stories that fascinate me the most.

Im curious and maybe you can help, why the stigma for so many years? Its not like Belfast had anything to do with the iceberg or the fatalities. They had engineers beyond their time that built this great ship, they had technology and a greater understanding of how things worked and put it all together, that to me is amazing in itself the design the actual building the hard working crew and construction members. etc.


I would go to this visitor centre just to be near, i would want to walk the land and see all around maybe someday i'll make it over to Belfast.

[gaea]

if your on fb here is a link, I have been following this page for awhile

https://www.facebook.com/TitanicStories

[Electrocell]

Do you believe in reincarnation?

Originally Posted by gaea

I really have no idea where this would go its history so i think this is an appropriate place.

I have had a strange addiction to everything Titanic since around the age of 4 i remember having a conversation with my mother about it and her asking me where i had "heard" the things i had been talking about, only i do not remember "hearing" anything so i could not say anything other than "I just know"

Now that the 100 years is upon us, the news media is all over this asking people about their strange addictions and or "connections" to the titanic.

I have found this interesting because i have a strange connection to it as well unexplainable i had no relatives aboard.

http://www.rmstitanic.net/

RIP-RMS TITANIC 04/15/1912

Does anyone else have these strange/odd connections to things history events of the past ?

[gaea]

Originally Posted by Electrocell

Do you believe in reincarnation?

I do yes, i do not just believe in it, however it is something in which i feel if that makes any sense.

my nightmares are all water based flooding waters rushing in and there is always some sort of maze i do not know how to explain them, I am currently trying to get connected with a "regression" therapist so i can make some sense out of my nightmares and perhaps put them to rest.

When i have flooding nightmares they are pretty intense and will almost always leave me with a sense of sadness the next day, couple these nightmares where im in some sort of maze and cannot get out or find my way "out" and im left with confusion.

The other night i dreamt I was on a large ship and i kept going from one room to another and they seemed like compartment sized rooms only i was following my eldest daughter who was in a wedding gown (weird) and she kept disappearing on me forcing me to continue looking for her, although i never saw her face in my dream it was my daughter.

I have never been on a ship in this lifetime and yet that seems to be all i think about being out on the open waters.

[Ciaran]

Originally Posted by gaea

Im so glad you joined this conversation and gave us some insight into Belfast, ironic if you think about it, the way you described Belfast closing up after the ship sank and now is suddenly being reborn around the same ship.

Im curious and maybe you can help, why the stigma for so many years? Its not like Belfast had anything to do with the iceberg or the fatalities. They had engineers beyond their time that built this great ship, they had technology and a greater understanding of how things worked and put it all together, that to me is amazing in itself the design the actual building the hard working crew and construction members. etc.

The stigma was all too real for many years. Although the design and build of The Titanic was likely nothing to do with its sinking, many accusations were made at the time and in subsequent years.

The sinking of The Titanic was of great sadness for the City but it also damaged the City's pride. It is said to have mentally scarred the lives of many of those workers who, rightly or wrongly, felt partly responsible for the disaster. It is said that many took this sense of guilt to their graves.

It's only very recently that, as a people, we've embraced our Titanic heritage and, in part, it's because sufficient time has passed which fades the pain. In fact, I think it's largely because those who worked on The Titanic are now all dead and most of their sons and daughters are dead too so, which we can now celebrate / commemorate that heritage, we don't have the pain of some of our forefathers.


When The Titanic left Belfast in 1912, it was a confident and outward looking industrial powerhouse (Belfast was where the United States established their second overseas consultate / embassy).

However, it was also a time of significant sectarian conflict in the City between Protestants and Roman Catholics. Five months after The Titanic's sinking, more than 440,000 Protestant adults signed the Ulster Covenant at Belfast City Hall, effectively renouncing any form of Irish rule in Belfast, an incredible number given the adult population of the province was considerably less than one million.

Originally Posted by gaea

I would go to this visitor centre just to be near, i would want to walk the land and see all around maybe someday i'll make it over to Belfast.

Yes, I'm rather biased as I love Belfast so much but it's an incredibly warm and hospitable city that is very definitely worthy of a visit. The Titantic Visitor Centre looks very impressive from the outside and has received excellent reviews. When I last returned to Belfast two weeks ago, it had yet to open but I'm looking forward to visiting it on my next trip home.

[Electrocell]

Interesting can understand what you are saying. I've had dreams about things and knew things the only way it could of been explained is that I had lived at that time.

Was wondering can you swim? You say you think about being on open waters, are you fearful at the same time?

[gaea]

Originally Posted by Electrocell

Interesting can understand what you are saying. I've had dreams about things and knew things the only way it could of been explained is that I had lived at that time.

Was wondering can you swim? You say you think about being on open waters, are you fearful at the same time?

yes i can swim i honestly don't remember a time i couldn't swim seems like i have always known how.

I am not fearful it is more like longing for me even though i have waterbased nightmares. It is difficult and seems somewhat conflicting. I do not really know how to explain it.

[Electrocell]

Originally Posted by gaea

yes i can swim i honestly don't remember a time i couldn't swim seems like i have always known how.

I am not fearful it is more like longing for me even though i have waterbased nightmares. It is difficult and seems somewhat conflicting. I do not really know how to explain it.

Have you done any research to find out if anyone was married on that ship?

[gaea]

Originally Posted by Ciaran

The stigma was all too real for many years. Although the design and build of The Titanic was likely nothing to do with its sinking, many accusations were made at the time and in subsequent years.

The sinking of The Titanic was of great sadness for the City but it also damaged the City's pride. It is said to have mentally scarred the lives of many of those workers who, rightly or wrongly, felt partly responsible for the disaster. It is said that many took this sense of guilt to their graves.

It's only very recently that, as a people, we've embraced our Titanic heritage and, in part, it's because sufficient time has passed which fades the pain. In fact, I think it's largely because those who worked on The Titanic are now all dead and most of their sons and daughters are dead too so, which we can now celebrate / commemorate that heritage, we don't have the pain of some of our forefathers.


When The Titanic left Belfast in 1912, it was a confident and outward looking industrial powerhouse (Belfast was where the United States established their second overseas consultate / embassy).

However, it was also a time of significant sectarian conflict in the City between Protestants and Roman Catholics. Five months after The Titanic's sinking, more than 440,000 Protestant adults signed the Ulster Covenant at Belfast City Hall, effectively renouncing any form of Irish rule in Belfast, an incredible number given the adult population of the province was considerably less than one million.





Yes, I'm rather biased as I love Belfast so much but it's an incredibly warm and hospitable city that is very definitely worthy of a visit. The Titantic Visitor Centre looks very impressive from the outside and has received excellent reviews. When I last returned to Belfast two weeks ago, it had yet to open but I'm looking forward to visiting it on my next trip home.

this is so interesting to me.

[gaea]

Originally Posted by Electrocell

Have you done any research to find out if anyone was married on that ship?

I have not yet....i thought about this when i woke up.