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08-30-2012, 10:09 AM
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Do you *want* people to assume you're a man?
In my thread about my doctor esperience, I made mention of the fact that if you saw me, you might assume I'm male. I was asked if I liked the idea of "passing". I replied that I hate that I can/do "pass". What does everyone else think?
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08-30-2012, 11:00 AM
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Seriously.
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08-30-2012, 11:05 AM
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No I do not.
Yes, it is an issue for butch women.
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08-30-2012, 11:12 AM
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i cannot answer for Syr but i think she prefers to be seen as a woman in the world.
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08-30-2012, 11:16 AM
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I shoot for human being first, followed closely by somewhat smart and funny. As long as people are nice to me, how they perceive me is entirely up to them.
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08-30-2012, 11:21 AM
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Doesn't MIT offer gender studies classes?
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  I am just kidding with you. I am gonna assume that if you are not a man, or identify as a man, then your not going to like being referred to, or mistaken as a man. It is just that simple. How do you handle it when you "steph" are mistaken for a man? Another interesting topic...
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08-30-2012, 12:03 PM
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Snow-Gender Studies doesn't overlap with Physics AFAIK.
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08-30-2012, 12:11 PM
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Um women wear jeans and t shirt too.
I understand the underlying stuff that's going on, but I am real confused why people don't understand the issue of butch women not wanting to be seen as men. Oh well, learn something new every day.
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08-30-2012, 12:16 PM
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most female id'ed butches i know want to be perceived as women. most male id'ed and trans butches i know want to be perceived as men.
clothing doesn't "make" one's gender id. i agree with bulldog...jeans and t-shirts are not just for men. Quote:
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08-30-2012, 12:38 PM
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08-30-2012, 12:22 PM
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i know what charming is talking about, and i know what bulldog is talking about. we are all just different and assuming is most often not a good thing to do.
truth. i like doing tomboy stuff. i'm not a man. i like being a woman. just because i have a ball cap on, ... don't assume i'm male. men don't own the patent to ball caps. |
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08-30-2012, 12:26 PM
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I went ahead and deleted my message, I dont want to cause drama in this thread,
What I said was misunderstood and I am sorry, have a good day all Dressing masculine, I dunno Cajun, I dress in guys jeans,cargo shorts,t shirts, baseball cap, boxers,wifebeaters,v neck white shirts, I buy from the mens section, |
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08-30-2012, 12:21 PM
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08-30-2012, 12:15 PM
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I am me. I don't give a fuck what others think of me.
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08-30-2012, 01:08 PM
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Just because it is called the men's department, it doesnt mean men are the only ones who own the right to wear the clothing, nor do men own masculinity. Could I grow out my hair and wear more feminine clothing with makeup and earrings? Sure - but I would still be mistaken for a man, just a man in drag. Even when I was in high school and had long hair, wore earrings, some makeup, and whatever clothes my mom made me wear, people *still* thought I was a man. It isnt about clothes and it bothers me that people still judge others based on their clothing or whether or not they wear a hat - which is what I get with the stuttered apologies when the person who called me sir stops and takes an actual look at me, seeing that I am, in fact, a woman. So no, I dont like that I pass as a man 90% of the time, but I am not about to change how I look, dress, stand, or walk just to appease the people who think I should dress, act, look, walk, etc a certain way so that I will be perceived by them to be the woman that I already am. Btw - this is not at all directed at you, CharmingButch - I would have posted about clothing, etc whether you mentioned it or not - it's the world that sees me this way based on the clothing I wear, not you - we've never even met. lol  |
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08-30-2012, 01:14 PM
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Curious
Steph, I find it funny (not in a ha ha way) that you've not shared your experience on how you feels when mistaken for a man.
How come?
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08-30-2012, 01:50 PM
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Fair enough. When it happens, and it doesn't happen often, I just gently correct them, by telling them my name.
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08-30-2012, 01:52 PM
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If I tried to pass I would probably be perceived as a 9-year-old boy, but I do not care about my partner 'passing' personally. My relationship would be with the person not the rest of society.
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