Preferences changing during transition

DapperButch · 03-28-2018, 05:12 PM

Esme nha Maire,

Yes. It is when FTMs start to get breast growth that their distress goes off the charts. Meanwhile, it is the facial hair and muscle mass which triggers MTFs. That is why kids can no longer "hold it in", at adolescence. They just burst at that point.

I have heard many FTMs say they "never thought it would happen to them". They never thought they would menstruate, never thought they would grow breasts. It just didn't "make sense" to them that this would happen, so they assumed they wouldn't. And these are people that didn't know they were "boys"/trans, they just knew they weren't like the other girls, so it didn't make logical sense to them that they would become women. It's amazing how we can twist things around in our brains in order to reduce our emotional distress is amazing.

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Originally Posted by Esme nha Maire

It's as if the brain is wired so that as long as there is a certain minimum amount of appropriate development in the one area, it doesn't get too upset, whereas too much development in the other makes it very unhappy. Which end causes distress from lack and which from excess is invese between the genders.

I like this thinking. You are suggesting that perhaps the reason that some FTMs do not have lower dysphoria is because getting top surgery is enough? Or, maybe you weren't saying that directly.

I can also tell you that you sometimes FTMs say that they didn't have lower dysphoria until after they had top surgery. It is like they start to become more conscious of another female part of their body after the most "womanly" thing about them is no longer there to focus on.

Esme nha Maire · 04-15-2018, 01:44 AM

Dapper, I wouldn't have a clue as to why some FTM's don't get bodily dysphoria regarding their genitals. I was just postulating a hypothesis which has a neat symmetry that makes sense to me!

That's interesting about FTM's thinking it'd never happen to them. I WISHED male bodily changes at puberty wouldn;t happen to me, but I knew absolutely that they would, and worried about it for years before it actually happened.

Regarding the change at one end affecting the perception at the other.. hmmn... there might even by some symmetry in that with MTF's too. The difficulty would in teasing out those who decided to have breast augmentation solely due to their internal feelings about how their body should be from those who did so due to societal pressure on women to look a certain way. I couldn't even begin to guess what proportion when I went through things even had breast augmentation, let alone have any idea as to why. This because my contact with other trans-women was fairly minimal - my membership of a nationwide support group was , for me, purely informational - how to get treatment, what to expect, possible ongoing issues. Medical problem, once sorted, that's it, job done, moving on... (if only life were THAT simple! 8-} ) But one chatted whilst in the waiting area with other patients... (shrugs)

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04-15-2018, 01:44 AM	#2
Esme nha Maire Member How Do You Identify?: Tomboyish eccentric antique femme Preferred Pronoun?: She/her Relationship Status: single Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 642 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,196 Thanked 2,079 Times in 541 Posts Rep Power: 19310769	Dapper, I wouldn't have a clue as to why some FTM's don't get bodily dysphoria regarding their genitals. I was just postulating a hypothesis which has a neat symmetry that makes sense to me! That's interesting about FTM's thinking it'd never happen to them. I WISHED male bodily changes at puberty wouldn;t happen to me, but I knew absolutely that they would, and worried about it for years before it actually happened. Regarding the change at one end affecting the perception at the other.. hmmn... there might even by some symmetry in that with MTF's too. The difficulty would in teasing out those who decided to have breast augmentation solely due to their internal feelings about how their body should be from those who did so due to societal pressure on women to look a certain way. I couldn't even begin to guess what proportion when I went through things even had breast augmentation, let alone have any idea as to why. This because my contact with other trans-women was fairly minimal - my membership of a nationwide support group was , for me, purely informational - how to get treatment, what to expect, possible ongoing issues. Medical problem, once sorted, that's it, job done, moving on... (if only life were THAT simple! 8-} ) But one chatted whilst in the waiting area with other patients... (shrugs)