2020 Presidential Election

[Martina]

Offer some evidence that I "clearly don't follow the news" otherwise I have to conclude that your insulting "ad hominem" posts are a waste of my time. And that's that.

I'm not going to comb through your old posts. Good grief. Didn't you just not know about the Fox News Mexican countries thing? Not very important. Who cares about that? But it's pretty endless. If you want, I'll keep track starting now. Actually, no. I'm too lazy. But when I notice one, I'll oblige. I haven't in the past because it would be rude and petty. But if you want, . . .

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by Martina

I'm not going to comb through your old posts. Good grief. Didn't you just not know about the Fox News Mexican countries thing? Not very important. Who cares about that? But it's pretty endless. If you want, I'll keep track starting now. Actually, no. I'm too lazy. But when I notice one, I'll oblige. I haven't in the past because it would be rude and petty. But if you want, . . .

Why stop being rude and petty now?

BTW, is watching Fox News, or recognising your oblique references to Fox News, your standard for marking an intelligent well-informed commentator?
Yikes.

[Martina]

The Mexican Countries story was in the New York Times, LA Times, The Post, covered by CNN, MSNBC and probably every US news outlet. *SMH*

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

BTW, is watching Fox News, or recognising your oblique references to Fox News, your standard for marking an intelligent well-informed commentator?
Yikes.

[cathexis]

Originally Posted by Martina

Without a doubt, and speaking the truth is valuable. But using history as an excuse to talk trash about an entire group of people is, well, trashy.

Hell, Canada has a pretty dismal history re its Native Peoples. I don't call out the Canadian people with glee as Collette is wont to do re Americans. (And Collette, DON'T ask me to document. Good God. I've seen you demand that someone tell you where you said something when it was on the previous page.) Collette has said about a thousand rude things about Americans. More. Whatever.

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

Why stop being rude and petty now?

BTW, is watching Fox News, or recognising your oblique references to Fox News, your standard for marking an intelligent well-informed commentator?
Yikes.

Just have a couple of observations to make here.

Martina- we are in a glass house throwing stones. The US Western Expansion was much more brutal to Native Peoples than Canada's. We continue to break treaties, provide healthcare that would be substandard in 3rd world countries, steal land for Capitalist oil pipelines at will, gave Smallpox infected blankets to the Sioux, killed off the Plain's Native food source for sport (read spite) among other atrocities.
The Canadian Western Expansion was far less violent and bloody, yes, land was stolen and people displaced, but as I recall reading, it was not as atrocious as the US.

C0LLETTE- It is common practice for one side of a political position to read/listen to the propaganda of the opposing side to learn their ideologies, tactics, weapons and so forth in order to mount a more effective offense/defense. I frequently listened to Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and read "Alt-Right" websites to get a good idea what the Right was planning. That knowledge makes for a better informed and prepared Leftist. These precepts go back to Sun Tzu in The Art of War. Making use of all intelligence available makes for better decisions. Martina's use of Fox News sources was very prudent.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by cathexis

Just have a couple of observations to make here.

Martina- we are in a glass house throwing stones. The US Western Expansion was much more brutal to Native Peoples than Canada's. We continue to break treaties, provide healthcare that would be substandard in 3rd world countries, steal land for Capitalist oil pipelines at will, gave Smallpox infected blankets to the Sioux, killed off the Plain's Native food source for sport (read spite) among other atrocities.
The Canadian Western Expansion was far less violent and bloody, yes, land was stolen and people displaced, but as I recall reading, it was not as atrocious as the US.

C0LLETTE- It is common practice for one side of a political position to read/listen to the propaganda of the opposing side to learn their ideologies, tactics, weapons and so forth in order to mount a more effective offense/defense. I frequently listened to Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and read "Alt-Right" websites to get a good idea what the Right was planning. That knowledge makes for a better informed and prepared Leftist. These precepts go back to Sun Tzu in The Art of War. Making use of all intelligence available makes for better decisions. Martina's use of Fox News sources was very prudent.

Despite wanting to hurl something through the TV every time we watch, we make it a point to watch at least one broadcast of Foxnews everyday. Ugg

[Medusa]

Martina and Collette-

You both have been told a number of times to ignore each other and yet here we are yet again with multiple reported posts and a shit show.

I have received more reports than I care to count this week about the level (or lack thereof) of adult communication in this thread and I’m to the point that I’m ready to shut this thread down or outright ban all political discussion because wrangling people and constantly asking people to be respectful is wearing the Mod team out.

Besides, it’s toxicAF and I’m just not interested in repeating myself over and over.

But here’s what I’m going to say instead: It is literally the SAME FEW PEOPLE getting reported over and over and over and rather than shut discussion down, I’m just going to put those few people on lengthy time-outs.

And when I say lengthy, I mean enough time away from this space that you’ll either learn to respect the people and discussions here or you’ll find other people to play out your rage on.

There will be no further warnings. No further discussion. No further wasting of my time or the time of the other Mods.

We are D-O-N-E with disrespectful behavior, raging at one another, and making a toilet out of this or any other thread.

Play nice or get the fuck out.


Angie

[FireSignFemme]

Timed out just from this thread or from all of BFP until one's entire sentance has been served?

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by FireSignFemme

Timed out just from this thread or from all of BFP until one's entire sentance has been served?

When you are timed out you are gonzo from everything.

I have shown my ass numerous times, and I think my longest time out was 6 months. It is horrible to lose community for 6 months....