Coronavirus ~ COVID-19

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

I don't quite understand the quarantine . . . I'll have to Google it.

from the CDC website (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...olation.html):

I think or know I had COVID-19, and I had symptoms
You can be around others after:

10 days since symptoms first appeared and
24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving*
*Loss of taste and smell may persist for weeks or months after recovery and need not delay the end of isolation​

Most people do not require testing to decide when they can be around others; however, if your healthcare provider recommends testing, they will let you know when you can resume being around others based on your test results.

Note that these recommendations do not apply to persons with severe COVID-19 or with severely weakened immune systems (immunocompromised). These persons should follow the guidance below for “I was severely ill with COVID-19 or have a severely weakened immune system (immunocompromised) due to a health condition or medication. When can I be around others?”

I was severely ill with COVID-19 or have a severely weakened immune system (immunocompromised) due to a health condition or medication. When can I be around others?
People who are severely ill with COVID-19 might need to stay home longer than 10 days and up to 20 days after symptoms first appeared. Persons who are severely immunocompromised may require testing to determine when they can be around others. Talk to your healthcare provider for more information. If testing is available in your community, it may be recommended by your healthcare provider. Your healthcare provider will let you know if you can resume being around other people based on the results of your testing.

Your doctor may work with an infectious disease expert or your local health department to determine whether testing will be necessary before you can be around others.

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by Gemme

Well, it's official. The smallest state has the biggest jerks and morons. Thanks to the cavalier idiots running amok here, Rhode Island leads the nation in average daily cases per 100k.


The CDC's COVID Data Tracker shows Rhode Island with 110.6 average daily cases per 100,000 people.

Rhode Island's daily positivity rate was 9.2% on Friday.

Well, we've gotten better at being the worst. It's now 123 positive cases per 100,000. We're followed by Indiana.

Also, more Americans died on Wednesday alone than in 9-11.

Think about that for a minute.

If Americans weren't so effin entitled, we could be like Australia or New Zealand and whip this thing but noooooo, stupid people have stupid parties and stupid people have big gatherings for the holidays and don't "like" wearing masks as if any of us do and governors and other political figures are caught breaking the oh, so basic rules themselves so of course their constituents aren't going to follow through and then there are the absolute idiotic morons that think it's a damn hoax or use their power and influence to push the irrational theory that it's really not all that bad. WTH, man. WTH.

[Cin]

The richest country in the world still resists any kind of safety net for its most vulnerable, even providing the most basic things like food, healthcare, and shelter, things that people in other developed countries take for granted, are considered taboo in the US. God forbid we should help struggling human beings. The deeply held belief that people's misfortune is their own fault and they should have made better choices or decisions so they deserve what they get is entrenched in the collective psyche of the United States. I know it's a part of human nature and this kind of thinking is seen all over the world but it is the party line for Americans. It's a cruel place to stumble compared with other wealthy nations and because of the pandemic more people than ever are coming to grips with this reality.

The thing is people want to survive so they will find workarounds where they can.

https://jezebel.com/shoplifting-has-...sto-1845857621

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ifting-hunger/

[~ocean]

Nancy Grace , her children (twins age 13 ) husband, and her mom , all have covid. Prayers for them all ~

[Orema]

An Arizona doctor went viral decrying a lack of ICU beds. Then he says his hospital shut him out.


Cleavon Gilman, an emergency room doctor, moved in June from New York City to Yuma, Ariz., to help the rural community in its battle against the coronavirus. (Cleavon Gilman)

By Andrea Salcedo
Dec. 11, 2020 at 4:25 a.m. PST

Cleavon Gilman has worked through three coronavirus surges, but the emergency room doctor reached his breaking point on Nov. 22. The physician had just arrived at a Yuma, Ariz., hospital for a 12-hour shift, and soon realized the facility had nowhere to send three ICU patients.

So, he tweeted: “Just got to work and was notified there are no more ICU beds in the state of Arizona.”

The tweet swiftly went viral, helping to propel Gilman to such prominence that President-elect Joe Biden later called to thank him for his advocacy. The next day, though, he says the hospital told the third-party company that he works through that it didn’t want him to return. Gilman, 41, says he’s been kept out of work since Nov. 23.

“The hospital is intentionally hurting me financially for speaking out, and I’m not permitted to work,” Gilman told The Washington Post on Thursday.

The hospital, though, insists that Gilman hasn’t been fired and in fact is scheduled to return to the ER this weekend.

“It’s clear there has been a misunderstanding,” Shay Andres, a Yuma Regional Medical Center spokeswoman, said in an email statement early Friday. “While he is not speaking on behalf of YRMC, we respect Dr. Gilman’s right to share his personal perspective on the pandemic.”

Gilman, in response, said that is “news to me.”

The conflict in Yuma, first reported by the Arizona Republic, echoes claims by other health-care workers who say they’ve faced repercussions from employers for sounding alarms about the dire state of a pandemic that has killed more than 291,000 Americans.

In March, a Seattle hospital confirmed an emergency physician had been terminated for criticizing its ER precautions, which an official compared to “yelling fire in a crowded theater,” the Seattle Times reported. In May, a D.C. hospital employee filed a lawsuit alleging she lost her job after posting that the hospital did not have enough coronavirus safety precautions. The hospital said that the associate had not been terminated.

‘I have never felt so helpless’: Front-line workers confront loss
Gilman, an Iraq War veteran who served as a hospital corpsman with the U.S. Marine Corps in 2004, spent the first months of the pandemic treating patients as the chief ER resident at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital. He has given multiple interviews to national outlets including CNN and the New York Times, and was back in the spotlight last week when Biden called to tell him “how much he appreciates” the efforts of health-care workers like him.

During the months when New York City became the pandemic’s epicenter, Gilman spent up to three hours after his shifts documenting the disease in his blog. In June, Gilman, his fiancee and two children moved to Yuma to work at the hospital there.

Although Gilman had pushed through two coronavirus surges in New York and one peak in Arizona, the week before his Nov. 22 tweet, the physician says, the hospital had reached a dire point. He had intubated dozens of patients, and every shift, he said, he worried that at least two critically ill patients with covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, would die.

So when he got to the hospital the evening of Nov. 22 to find out it had run out of intensive care unit beds, Gilman took his frustrations to Twitter and posted the message in an act of “moral obligation,” he said. That night, the hospital was so full that he had to treat families infected with covid-19 in the waiting room. Back then, the Arizona Department of Health Services reported 90 percent of the state’s ICU beds were in use.

“I have a moral obligation to provide the general public with the truth,” he said. “I didn’t do anything wrong. I was sharing information.”

Gilman went to bed after finishing his shift at around 7 a.m. the next day. When he woke up, the physician, who has more than 85,000 followers on Twitter, said he received a call from Envision Healthcare, the medical group that hired him, telling him that the hospital was “upset” and “didn’t want me to come back,” Gilman told The Post.

Gilman said hospital administrators have not called or emailed him to tell him he cannot go back. “I let my company, Envision, try to negotiate with the hospital,” he added.

In a statement to The Post, Envision did not directly address Gilman’s claims, instead noting that the doctor has “continuously advocated for his patients and the health and safety of the Yuma community.” The company confirmed Gilman’s account to the Republic.

He has now missed five shifts at the hospital despite a shortage of health-care workers after several colleagues have tested positive for the virus since then, Gilman said. As of Friday, the state’s department of health services reported Yuma County had the highest rate of cases per 100,000 in the state. The hospital, which should have seen him as an ally, he said, has instead treated him as a threat.

But the hospital, in its statement, insisted it values Gilman’s role in the ER.
“This is an ‘all hands on deck’ moment, in our emergency department and thousands of others across the country,” Andres said. “We need good caregivers like Dr. Gilman here, serving patients at the bedside and providing the best care possible, and we are grateful for all of those who continue to do that on the frontline every day.”

Gilman is unsure now whether he will return to the hospital. In the meantime, he said he will continue tweeting and speaking to the media to raise awareness about the seriousness of the pandemic.

“People are still dying,” Gilman said. “I’m not going to be quiet because you have a problem with me telling the truth.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...a-covid-fired/

[Kätzchen]

It's not just doctors and nurses and paramedical personnel who are on the front lines of Covid-19. There are people like Elsi Mabelica Campos (from El Salvador) who died from Covid-19, one week after contracting symptoms. She was the person in charge of keeping The Pew clean and free of any blemish or undiscovered germs on windows, glass panes, floors, any surface one might come into contact with.

Here is the story about her, which was published first in The Washington Post and then reposted on the MSN website news page:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/el...19/ar-BB1bOm8t

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by ~ocean

Nancy Grace , her children (twins age 13 ) husband, and her mom , all have covid. Prayers for them all ~

Once Covid gets into a house, it seems like everyone gets it. We were really careful; after the boy got it, we were masking inside the house, spraying and wiping down stuff, using separate bathrooms - and we all got it anyway.

[Bèsame*]

10 years from now
You will hear
commercials that say
"If you took the
CV 19 vaccine
between 2020-2021
you may be
entitled to
compensation"


This made me bust out laughing!

[Kätzchen]

I came across an excellent news article, over on MSNBC tonight. It talks about how American citizens must change their behaviors quickly or we will see real carnage fallout via the Covid-19 virus.

There are many salient points argued in the article, but this particular strand of written thought stood out to me as the most important item at root of the pandemic.

The outbreak has exposed a vast array of broken systems: underfunded hospitals; decaying infrastructure in rural towns and poor neighborhoods; legislative gridlock that has repeatedly stalled economic relief; a health insurance status quo that leaves far too many vulnerable people unprotected; a social fabric shredded by cultural feuds and tribalism.

An excellent short read, so here is the link to the MSNBC news story covering Covid-19 trends and outcomes:

The Darkest Hour for America Is Still To Come. What We Do Next, Is Key:
Four Months That Will Decide America's Future (MSNBC)